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K2 - KAT2 Tuner and Alpha Delta DX-EE Dipole

stan levandowski
I would like to correspond with a K2/KAT2 owner who is actually using an
Alpha-Delta DX-EE dipole.  This is a rather pricey "limited-space"
antenna and would like to hear directly from some "real world" users.
My guess is that there won't be too many of you out there but I thought
I'd ask anyway.

My fundamental question: Does the KAT2 get along with the DX-EE on all
bands?

73,

Stan Levandowski WB2LQF
HF QRP CW -- Doing more with less for over 50 years!
QCWA #35038   OOTC #4558   NAQCC #4740   SKCC #6488   FISTS #14992
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Re: K2 - KAT2 Tuner and Alpha Delta DX-EE Dipole

Cookie
I have used an Alpha-Delta DX-DD for 40 and 80 at Field Day using a TS-480HX. 
It worked very well on 40 but was tuned for the SSB band on 80 and we were
working CW, so not so good on 80.  I don't think the band was in good shape for
80 anyway.  The quality of construction is very good in my opinion.  The 40
performance is what you would expect from a 40 dipole.
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
K5EWJ




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Subject: [Elecraft] K2 - KAT2 Tuner and Alpha Delta DX-EE Dipole

I would like to correspond with a K2/KAT2 owner who is actually using an
Alpha-Delta DX-EE dipole.  This is a rather pricey "limited-space"
antenna and would like to hear directly from some "real world" users.
My guess is that there won't be too many of you out there but I thought
I'd ask anyway.

My fundamental question: Does the KAT2 get along with the DX-EE on all
bands?

73,

Stan Levandowski WB2LQF
HF QRP CW -- Doing more with less for over 50 years!
QCWA #35038  OOTC #4558  NAQCC #4740  SKCC #6488  FISTS #14992
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Re: K2 - KAT2 Tuner and Alpha Delta DX-EE Dipole

Ken Kopp-3
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Stan,

I have one that's used for a general purpose (mostly
for diversity receiving) antenna in my SO2R station.  
It works like what it is ... a fan dipole.

It's -extremely- well made and the over-all quality is
top-notch, but it's -heavy-, requiring my 150# to pull it
"tight", and it still sags a bit.  Mine is supported with 3/8"
Dacron rope, and I wouldn't want to use anything smaller.  
I can't imagine the nylon cord supplied with it supporting
it .  

It does not cover 30M, but the tuners in the my K2 and
K3 handle it OK.  The 80M loading coils are detuned
when wet or snow-covered.  

It isn't a "nice looking" antenna, if that's important to you.  
The neighbors -will- see it.  The heavy, solid conductors
need to be "fussed" with to even come close to being
straight.  Like all fan dipoles, it will need several trips
up and down for adjusting the interacting adjustments. (:-)

I also have an 80M Zepp fed with  2"-spaced  #14 open
wire line that works all bands very easily and is a -lot-
simpler. It's been in place for 35 years. (:-)  It's fed via
a 4:1 2KW HB balun.

Both the antennas are between towers at the 65' level.

Probably more than you wanted to know ....

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: K2 - KAT2 Tuner and Alpha Delta DX-EE Dipole

stan levandowski
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Ken and Brett, thanks for your responses.  It's all helpful.  I have to
think this through now.

Thanks again,

Stan Levandowski WB2LQF
HF QRP CW -- Doing more with less for over 50 years!
QCWA #35038   OOTC #4558   NAQCC #4740   SKCC #6488   FISTS #14992


On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Brett Howard wrote:

> The DX-EE isn't going to play all that well on 160 and 80.  I can tune
> it there with the K3's tuner but you don't hear all that much and they
> hear even less of you.
>
> On 40 the DX-EE has a very high Q and you can only get it to actually
> be
> "ok" at a very small section of the band.  Beyond that you can expect
> some pretty low return loss figures.  Nothing that the tuner can't
> make
> look reasonable to the radio but you're starting to get toward the
> same
> performance that you'd see on 160 and 80.
>
> The antenna does pretty well on 20, 15 and 10 and can be tuned to work
> on the WARC bands.
> I know it'll get stripped off when I send this to the reflector but
> I'm
> attaching some plots of the DX-EE.
>
> SWR WIDE is an SWR plot from 2Mhz to 60Mhz (not sure why I started so
> high but it doesn't matter).  I have this same plot showing return
> loss
> but most hams are more familiar with SWR so I send that one.  I
> personally prefer return loss plots.
> I'm also attaching a smith chart of the antenna.  The numbered markers
> are on the same frequencies that were shown in the previous plot.
>
> These plots were taken using a $20,000 very recently calibrated
> Agilent
> VNA with the antenna strung between two trees about 30ft up.  Now I
> just
> need to go up and tune the antenna to come up into the bands where I
> want them I'm a bit low on each but that just means they are good on
> the
> CW portions.  I think part of the reason they are about the same
> amount
> low on every band is because of stretching over time.
>
> Anyway hopefully some of this information helps.
>
> ~Brett (N7MG)
>
>
> On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 21:49 -0400, stan levandowski wrote:
>> I would like to correspond with a K2/KAT2 owner who is actually using
>> an Alpha-Delta DX-EE dipole.  This is a rather pricey "limited-space"
>> antenna and would like to hear directly from some "real world" users.
>> My guess is that there won't be too many of you out there but I
>> thought I'd ask anyway.
>>
>> My fundamental question: Does the KAT2 get along with the DX-EE on
>> all bands?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Stan Levandowski WB2LQF
>> HF QRP CW -- Doing more with less for over 50 years!
>> QCWA #35038   OOTC #4558   NAQCC #4740   SKCC #6488   FISTS #14992
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