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[K2] On initial Power-up, '"INFO 201" Remains

Need some help here.

Been working on my K2 S/N 7770 and got to the point where power is first applied.

Upon pressing the Power button, got the INFO 201 message, but it just remained on the display. It never went away and I never saw the ‘7100.00c’.

Turned power off and then cycled it back on. Now, the display is simply blank. Nothing.

I reset the K2 (pressing 4-5-6 then powering up), and the INFO 201 came up again with the same symptoms.

Would appreciate any thoughts on what might be happening.

73,
Dan, K7DJK

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Re: [K2] On initial Power-up, '"INFO 201" Remains

Dan,

The MCU is apparently not completing the initialization process. The
INFO 201 should be shown only once (and not in normal operation). It
will be shown once after a Master Reset. It should finish in about 30
to 40 seconds.

The first thing to check is the soldering on the Control Board.
Reflow the solder adding a bit more (to add a bit of flux). Use a hot
iron (750 degF) and dwell on each connection until you see the solder
flow out onto the solder pad and the component lead - that should take
about 3 seconds, but if it takes up to 5, no problem.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/15/2017 8:55 PM, Dan, K7DJK via Elecraft wrote:

> Need some help here.
>
> Been working on my K2 S/N 7770 and got to the point where power is first applied.
>
> Upon pressing the Power button, got the INFO 201 message, but it just remained on the display. It never went away and I never saw the ‘7100.00c’.
>
> Turned power off and then cycled it back on. Now, the display is simply blank. Nothing.
>
> I reset the K2 (pressing 4-5-6 then powering up), and the INFO 201 came up again with the same symptoms.
>
> Would appreciate any thoughts on what might be happening.

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Re: [K2] On initial Power-up, '"INFO 201" Remains

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Dan,
Make sure you don't have installed U7 (the EEPROM) in the wrong way.
Check where pin 1 is located and that is the IC side with the notch.
Also check U8 for reversal, this could pull down the I2C lines to the
EEPROM. Do this check also for U4 and U5 on the RF board, they also
share the I2C lines of U6.

Also check RP7-1/2 which is pulling down SDO on U7. As a last thing I
can image, check if X2 is a 4MHz crystal and not completely detuned. If
you do have a scope or external frequency counter handy it should show
around 4MHz at U6-13/14.
If none of this helps, U7 might be damaged.

73 Gernot DF5RF

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Re: [K2] On initial Power-up, '"INFO 201" Remains

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Now that the busyness of the Thanksgiving holiday is over, I was able to get back to the K2.

First of all, thank you all for your help and suggestions.

I first, for both the Front Panel and the Control Board, verified that all the proper components were installed and in their proper orientation. No problems found here.

I then went and reflowed all of the solder joints (well, all of those I could actually access).

After reassembling the radio, I turned it on and got past the INFO 201. Good! Reflowing the solder must have fixed something somewhere.

Now I have the INFO 080 message.

Referring to Appendix E of the K2 manual, I quickly found the problem to be a bad solder connection on U1’s (RF board) 4 MHz resonator (RF-Z5).. Easily fixed that and checked all other solder connections of the RF board.

Applied power. Ah, the wonderful sound of clicking relays!

Looked at the display, and saw...gibberish.

Decided to reset the radio again (4+5+6 then power-on).

Got the INFO 201, followed quickly by ELECrAFt, followed then by 7100.00c.

All tests and functions as outlined in Alignment and Test, Part 1, worked as expected. Happy to see that!

Something still bugs me though. After reflowing the solder connections, I re-measured the resistance checks (per pg. 29 of the User Manual). I only list below the measurements in question:

Test Point Signal Name Res. (to GND) Actual Measurement
U1 pin 1 IDAT 25 - 35 k 8.84 k
U1 pin 2 ICLK 25 - 35 k 8.93 k
U1 pin 3 /SYNC 40 - 60 k 28 k
U1 pin 5 5A 15 - 40 k 4.1 k
U1 pin 12 2V 9 - 11 k 6 k
J1 pin 15 VPOTS 10 - 60 k 4.3 k
J1 pin 16 ICLK 25 - 35 k 8.9 k
J1 pin 17 IDAT 25 - 35 k 8.7 k
J1 pin 18 5A 15 - 40 k 4.1 k

I realize that the primary purpose of the resistance measurements here are to check for opens and shorts, but given that the three boards appear to work as expected, I can't help but wonder if these measurements are OK as is, or is there something else amiss. I did check these with two different DMMs and the results were consistent.

73,
Dan, K7DJK

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K2] On initial Power-up, '"INFO 201" Remains

Dan,

The MCU is apparently not completing the initialization process. The
INFO 201 should be shown only once (and not in normal operation). It
will be shown once after a Master Reset. It should finish in about 30
to 40 seconds.

The first thing to check is the soldering on the Control Board.
Reflow the solder adding a bit more (to add a bit of flux). Use a hot
iron (750 degF) and dwell on each connection until you see the solder
flow out onto the solder pad and the component lead - that should take
about 3 seconds, but if it takes up to 5, no problem.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/15/2017 8:55 PM, Dan, K7DJK via Elecraft wrote:

> Need some help here.
>
> Been working on my K2 S/N 7770 and got to the point where power is first applied.
>
> Upon pressing the Power button, got the INFO 201 message, but it just remained on the display. It never went away and I never saw the ‘7100..00c’.
>
> Turned power off and then cycled it back on. Now, the display is simply blank. Nothing.
>
> I reset the K2 (pressing 4-5-6 then powering up), and the INFO 201 came up again with the same symptoms.
>
> Would appreciate any thoughts on what might be happening.

Don Wilhelm

Re: [K2] On initial Power-up, '"INFO 201" Remains

Dan,

I just arrived home from Thanksgiving family stuff.
Did you have the front panel board isolated from the other boards when
you made those resistance measurements?
If not, that is sufficient reason for the low resistances.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/26/2017 6:01 PM, Dan, K7DJK via Elecraft wrote:

> Now that the busyness of the Thanksgiving holiday is over, I was able to get back to the K2.
>
> First of all, thank you all for your help and suggestions.
>
> I first, for both the Front Panel and the Control Board, verified that all the proper components were installed and in their proper orientation. No problems found here.
>
> I then went and reflowed all of the solder joints (well, all of those I could actually access).
>
> After reassembling the radio, I turned it on and got past the INFO 201. Good! Reflowing the solder must have fixed something somewhere.
>
> Now I have the INFO 080 message.
>
> Referring to Appendix E of the K2 manual, I quickly found the problem to be a bad solder connection on U1’s (RF board) 4 MHz resonator (RF-Z5).. Easily fixed that and checked all other solder connections of the RF board.
>
> Applied power. Ah, the wonderful sound of clicking relays!
>
> Looked at the display, and saw...gibberish.
>
> Decided to reset the radio again (4+5+6 then power-on).
>
> Got the INFO 201, followed quickly by ELECrAFt, followed then by 7100.00c.
>
> All tests and functions as outlined in Alignment and Test, Part 1, worked as expected. Happy to see that!
>
> Something still bugs me though. After reflowing the solder connections, I re-measured the resistance checks (per pg. 29 of the User Manual). I only list below the measurements in question: