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K2 SSB Question

Curt
Completed K2 s/n 6424 a few months back, am thinking of adding a KSB2
adapter kit I own.  I've seen several threads indicating that the SSB
performance of the K2 with the adapter isn't very good.  Would adding this
capability be worthwhile, or is leaving the K2 as CW only a better option?

73, Curt KB5JO

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RE: K2 SSB Question

Darwin, Keith
If you want to wow the hi-fi crowd with your SSB prowess, the K2 isn't
the rig.  If you're wanting a good sounding SSB rig, the K2 is fine.  It
generates perfectly workable SSB comms despite rumors to the contrary.

It is important that you align the filters correctly to get the best
audio it can give.  I did mine with a 2nd receiver and my computer.  I
transmitted into a dummy load and recorded my audio as monitored on the
2nd RX.  I then listened to the recording and decided whether I wanted
more / less lows & highs.  I went back to the K2, made adjustments to
the filter and re-recorded.  Continue until the recording sounds the way
you want it to.

The simpler approach of listening to your voice as you speak is a poor
substitute since your spoken voice messes up ability to hear your
transmitted voice.

- Keith N1AS -
- K3 711 -

-----Original Message-----
Completed K2 s/n 6424 a few months back, am thinking of adding a KSB2
adapter kit I own.  I've seen several threads indicating that the SSB
performance of the K2 with the adapter isn't very good.  Would adding
this capability be worthwhile, or is leaving the K2 as CW only a better
option?

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Re: K2 SSB Question

w1az@comcast.net
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I've had my K2 (5705) for a couple of years, with the KSB2.  Alignment is a
little tricky and it is important that it is done correctly, but I've had no
problems with it.  I've made a good many contacts (been using CW more) and
have gotten some complements on the audio, so I think the bad reputation is a
little unfair.

Bernie
W1AZ

On Friday 07 November 2008, Curt wrote:

> Completed K2 s/n 6424 a few months back, am thinking of adding a KSB2
> adapter kit I own.  I've seen several threads indicating that the SSB
> performance of the K2 with the adapter isn't very good.  Would adding this
> capability be worthwhile, or is leaving the K2 as CW only a better option?
>
> 73, Curt KB5JO
>
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Re: K2 SSB Question

Don Wilhelm-4
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Curt,

I do not know which threads you are referring to.  The K2 with the KSB2
is quite good with excellent carrier suppression and will provide an
audio passband consistent with the filter width you have installed on
the KSB2 board.
If you have the older 2.1 kHz filter width, the passband placement
becomes critical and may require some experimenting.  The 2.4 kHz width
has been provided with the KSB2 for several years now and is not as
critical.  The 2.6 kHz bandwidth gives excellent audio with even less
concern for the exact placement of the passband.  No matter what filter
width you have installed now, it is a simple matter of changing a few
capacitors to alter the width - Elecraft provides a kit to do that if
you wish.

The downside of the KSB2 is that it has no anti-vox, and that fact makes
the VOX operation 'touchy' for data modes - it is better to use PTT for
data modes, and the KSB2 does have limited microphone gain - it works
very well with electret element mics and with the higher output dynamic
mics, but if you are planning to use the lower output Heil dynamic mics
(HC-4/5 elements), then you may have to add a microphone preamp.

Those are the pros and cons that I know about.

73,
Don W3FPR

Curt wrote:
> Completed K2 s/n 6424 a few months back, am thinking of adding a KSB2
> adapter kit I own.  I've seen several threads indicating that the SSB
> performance of the K2 with the adapter isn't very good.  Would adding
> this capability be worthwhile, or is leaving the K2 as CW only a
> better option?
>
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Re: K2 SSB Question

Ignacy
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I used and did some testing with original KSB2 and QRP mode. The SSB signal is readable and useful although neither contest nor HiFi quality. While it does not have RF processing, it has some compression to a degree that outboard speech processors do not help any more. The narrow signal may be an advantage if running QRP where readability is more important than fidelity.

I used K2 in my home country, SP, using a 60 ft long wire at 20ft with 2 15ft radials, all directly attached to KAT2.  On 80m, I worked many of my old buddies within a 250 miles radius, and nobody had any trouble copying. A feat with a 4 lb self contained radio (powered by 2 x 11V/1.5AH LI-Ion batteries)+ 1 lb bag of accessories.

Ignacy, NO9E    
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Re: K2 SSB Question

Jim Brown-10
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On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:34:02 -0500, Don Wilhelm wrote:

>Those are the pros and cons that I know about.

I'll add a few things.

1) The K2 with KSB2 is a bit low on transmit audio gain, so with
some mics, you may not get as much "processing" as in some other
rigs.

2) The K2 with KSB2 has a bit more low frequency response than is
ideal for agressive audio in a competitive situation.

3) The K2 when adjusted for narrowband SSB reception aligns the RX
filters to form a "staggertuned" IF, so the audio quality (on RX)
is something that only the programmer's mother could love.

These issues matter only if you're a contester or serious DX
chaser. For more casual operation it doesn't matter much. There
are mods for #1 and #2 that improve things significantly, and
they're pretty easy to do. One of the more powerful solutions to #
1 involves cutting some circuit board traces.

Bottom line -- the K2 and K2/100 are excellent CW rigs and good
(but not great) SSB rigs. The KSB2 IS a good plug-in, and well
worth doing, but don't expect it to be competitive in a serious
contest. For other operation you'll be quite happy with it.

73,

Jim Brown K9YC


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