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I just wanted to remind the list of the AB3AP software found on http://udel.edu/~mm/ham/elecraft/
I'm especially fond of the software for "K2 Settings Retrieval" about which he says "Save your K2 set up in case of an unexpected reset." I have just serviced a K2 where the previous owner had had soldering problems (untinned toroids, solder bridges, ...) as well as settings which were far off. I find it useful then to start by reading out the settings to figure out what the starting point is, as well as backing up all the values when the calibration has been completed. The AB3AP software is in the form of Java programs. My web browsers don't allow them to be run, but simply downloading the code and running them from the command line works fine. For a PC this is "javaws params.jnlp".
Sverre, LA3ZA
K2 #2198, K3 #3391, LA3ZA Blog: http://la3za.blogspot.com, LA3ZA Unofficial Guide to K2 modifications: http://la3za.blogspot.com/p/la3za-unofficial-guide-to-elecraft-k2.html |
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Unfortunately with the recent security upgrades these Java applications will
NOT execute on Windows 8.1 with Java 8 Update 40 UNLESS YOU ADD http://udel.edu to Java's Exception Site List. Since Java doesn't like http:// you must click to accept the risk. But the dialog in which you must agree is hidden behind the Java security dialog and you CANNOT get to it. And the default action is NO! So, after you depress ADD to insert the url into Java's Exception Site List you will see the same screen you saw upon entry. Stay calm! Depress the TAB key to move to the focus from the hidden NO button to the hidden YES button (you can't see this) then depress ENTER. So PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG! I will not flame or even be embarrassed. This is a PITA! And I don't think the JNLP code will work off-line. It still has to access resources found at http://udel.edu. BTW, the software is great! Hoping to be proven wrong, Ken - ke4rg -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2015 4:40 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Settings Retrieval Software I just wanted to remind the list of the AB3AP software found on http://udel.edu/~mm/ham/elecraft/ I'm especially fond of the software for "K2 Settings Retrieval" about which he says "Save your K2 set up in case of an unexpected reset." I have just serviced a K2 where the previous owner had had soldering problems (untinned toroids, solder bridges, ...) as well as settings which were far off. I find it useful then to start by reading out the settings to figure out what the starting point is, as well as backing up all the values when the calibration has been completed. The AB3AP software is in the form of Java programs. My web browsers don't allow them to be run, but simply downloading the code and running them from the command line works fine. For a PC this is "javaws params.jnlp". ----- Sverre, LA3ZA K2 #2198, K3 #3391, LA3ZA Blog: http://la3za.blogspot.com, LA3ZA Unofficial Guide to K2 modifications: http://la3za.blogspot.com/p/la3za-unofficial-guide-to-elecraft-k2.html -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-Settings-Retrieval-Software-tp759992 1.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi all, and apologies that my Web Start effort causes problems with
Windows 8. (I'm a linux user and was unaware.) Some quick ideas: 1. I am glad to recompile the code to not use web start. 2. I realize I never made the source code available, an oversight. If either or both of those will be helpful, please let me know. Also, many thanks for the kind words on the programs. Tnx es 73, Mike ab3ap On 03/08/2015 04:26 PM, Kenneth Talbott wrote: > Unfortunately with the recent security upgrades these Java applications will > NOT execute on Windows 8.1 with Java 8 Update 40 UNLESS YOU ADD > http://udel.edu to Java's Exception Site List. Since Java doesn't like > http:// you must click to accept the risk. But the dialog in which you must > agree is hidden behind the Java security dialog and you CANNOT get to it. > And the default action is NO! So, after you depress ADD to insert the url > into Java's Exception Site List you will see the same screen you saw upon > entry. Stay calm! Depress the TAB key to move to the focus from the hidden > NO button to the hidden YES button (you can't see this) then depress ENTER. > > So PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG! I will not flame or even be embarrassed. This is > a PITA! > > And I don't think the JNLP code will work off-line. It still has to access > resources found at http://udel.edu. > > BTW, the software is great! > > Hoping to be proven wrong, > Ken - ke4rg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sverre > Holm (LA3ZA) > Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2015 4:40 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Settings Retrieval Software > > I just wanted to remind the list of the AB3AP software found on > http://udel.edu/~mm/ham/elecraft/ > > I'm especially fond of the software for "K2 Settings Retrieval" about which > he says "Save your K2 set up in case of an unexpected reset." > > I have just serviced a K2 where the previous owner had had soldering > problems (untinned toroids, solder bridges, ...) as well as settings which > were far off. I find it useful then to start by reading out the settings to > figure out what the starting point is, as well as backing up all the values > when the calibration has been completed. > > The AB3AP software is in the form of Java programs. My web browsers don't > allow them to be run, but simply downloading the code and running them from > the command line works fine. For a PC this is "javaws params.jnlp". > > > > ----- > Sverre, LA3ZA > > K2 #2198, K3 #3391, > LA3ZA Blog: http://la3za.blogspot.com, > LA3ZA Unofficial Guide to K2 modifications: > http://la3za.blogspot.com/p/la3za-unofficial-guide-to-elecraft-k2.html > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-Settings-Retrieval-Software-tp759992 > 1.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi all, and apologies that my Web Start effort causes problems on
Windows 8. (I'm a linux user and was unaware.) Some quick ideas: 1. I am glad to recompile the code to not use web start. 2. I realize I never made the source code available, an oversight. If either or both of those will be helpful, please let me know. Also, many thanks for the kind words on the programs! Tnx es 73, Mike ab3ap On 03/08/2015 04:26 PM, Kenneth Talbott wrote: > Unfortunately with the recent security upgrades these Java applications will > NOT execute on Windows 8.1 with Java 8 Update 40 UNLESS YOU ADD > http://udel.edu to Java's Exception Site List. [...] > > Hoping to be proven wrong, > Ken - ke4rg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sverre > Holm (LA3ZA) > Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2015 4:40 AM > > I just wanted to remind the list of the AB3AP software found on > http://udel.edu/~mm/ham/elecraft/ > [...] > ----- > Sverre, LA3ZA > > K2 #2198, K3 #3391, > LA3ZA Blog: http://la3za.blogspot.com, > LA3ZA Unofficial Guide to K2 modifications: > http://la3za.blogspot.com/p/la3za-unofficial-guide-to-elecraft-k2.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi Mike
Good to hear from you. I don't really know what it takes to make the programs more useful. All I know is that everything that has to do with Java has gotten more and more difficult to use, especially for Windows users. I am running Windows 7 here myself. Therefore, after quite some struggle with browsers and security, it was a relief to find out that I could run the K2 Settings Retrieval Software from the command line in Windows by just typing in javaws params.jnlp after having downloaded params.jnlp to my harddisk. I realize that the security issues are caused by calls to your website. If a 100% local program could do the same, then perhaps that would make it simpler, but I am just a user, not a developer of these things, so I don't really know what it takes.
Sverre, LA3ZA
K2 #2198, K3 #3391, LA3ZA Blog: http://la3za.blogspot.com, LA3ZA Unofficial Guide to K2 modifications: http://la3za.blogspot.com/p/la3za-unofficial-guide-to-elecraft-k2.html |
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Nice programs for the K2! I hope he finishes the filter settings program. That looks very handy.
Brian Denley KB1VBF Sent from my iPad > On Mar 8, 2015, at 4:39 AM, Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I just wanted to remind the list of the AB3AP software found on > http://udel.edu/~mm/ham/elecraft/ > > I'm especially fond of the software for "K2 Settings Retrieval" about which > he says "Save your K2 set up in case of an unexpected reset." > > I have just serviced a K2 where the previous owner had had soldering > problems (untinned toroids, solder bridges, ...) as well as settings which > were far off. I find it useful then to start by reading out the settings to > figure out what the starting point is, as well as backing up all the values > when the calibration has been completed. > > The AB3AP software is in the form of Java programs. My web browsers don't > allow them to be run, but simply downloading the code and running them from > the command line works fine. For a PC this is "javaws params.jnlp". > > > > ----- > Sverre, LA3ZA > > K2 #2198, K3 #3391, > LA3ZA Blog: http://la3za.blogspot.com, > LA3ZA Unofficial Guide to K2 modifications: http://la3za.blogspot.com/p/la3za-unofficial-guide-to-elecraft-k2.html > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-Settings-Retrieval-Software-tp7599921.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Didn't realise it existed!
Will certainly be sorting the software today for my K2/100. Regards Ken.. G0ORH Sent from my iPad > On 9 Mar 2015, at 02:00, Brian Denley <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Nice programs for the K2! I hope he finishes the filter settings program. That looks very handy. > > Brian Denley > KB1VBF > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 8, 2015, at 4:39 AM, Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> I just wanted to remind the list of the AB3AP software found on >> http://udel.edu/~mm/ham/elecraft/ >> >> I'm especially fond of the software for "K2 Settings Retrieval" about which >> he says "Save your K2 set up in case of an unexpected reset." >> >> I have just serviced a K2 where the previous owner had had soldering >> problems (untinned toroids, solder bridges, ...) as well as settings which >> were far off. I find it useful then to start by reading out the settings to >> figure out what the starting point is, as well as backing up all the values >> when the calibration has been completed. >> >> The AB3AP software is in the form of Java programs. My web browsers don't >> allow them to be run, but simply downloading the code and running them from >> the command line works fine. For a PC this is "javaws params.jnlp". >> >> >> >> ----- >> Sverre, LA3ZA >> >> K2 #2198, K3 #3391, >> LA3ZA Blog: http://la3za.blogspot.com, >> LA3ZA Unofficial Guide to K2 modifications: http://la3za.blogspot.com/p/la3za-unofficial-guide-to-elecraft-k2.html >> -- >> View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-Settings-Retrieval-Software-tp7599921.html >> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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With this software, there is an increased temptation to leave the
internal counter probe connected inside the K2. While that is OK for the K2/10, for the K2/100 the probe should not be left plugged in because it can couple BFO harmonics into the KPA100 resulting in spurious emissions. Elecraft recommends that the internal counter probe be removed if the KPA100 is installed. See the KPA100 manual page 55. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/9/2015 3:18 AM, Ken Chandler wrote: > Didn't realise it existed! > Will certainly be sorting the software today for my K2/100. > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi Don Yes, you are right. So the software should only be used right before/after adjustment and then the cable should be removed. Indeed the K2/100 I just had here had the cable plugged in, but that was not because of this software. I think it was just because the previous owner didn't know better. I removed it before shipping it on to the present owner. 73 Sverre LA3ZA 2015-03-09 12:56 GMT+01:00 Don Wilhelm-4 [via Elecraft] <[hidden email]>: With this software, there is an increased temptation to leave the
Sverre, LA3ZA
K2 #2198, K3 #3391, LA3ZA Blog: http://la3za.blogspot.com, LA3ZA Unofficial Guide to K2 modifications: http://la3za.blogspot.com/p/la3za-unofficial-guide-to-elecraft-k2.html |
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Actually, the K2 settings are quite stable. I would recommend using
this software to record the settings right after an alignment, then remove the cable. If the BFO settings are to be re-installed, know that the 4 MHz Reference Oscillator may have drifted since the last alignment. If it is set correctly again, then the same BFO frequencies can be entered. Note that the BFO frequencies should be regarded as +/- 0.02 kHz because of the BFO DAC resolution. If you need information for accurately setting the 4 MHz Reference (C22), look at my website www.w3fpr.com article on K2 Dial Calibration. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/9/2015 9:24 AM, Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) wrote: > Hi Don > > Yes, you are right. So the software should only be used right before/after > adjustment and then the cable should be removed. > > Indeed the K2/100 I just had here had the cable plugged in, but that was > not because of this software. I think it was just because the previous > owner didn't know better. I removed it before shipping it on to the present > owner. > > 73 > Sverre > LA3ZA > > 2015-03-09 12:56 GMT+01:00 Don Wilhelm-4 [via Elecraft] < > [hidden email]>: > >> With this software, there is an increased temptation to leave the >> internal counter probe connected inside the K2. >> While that is OK for the K2/10, for the K2/100 the probe should not be >> left plugged in because it can couple BFO harmonics into the KPA100 >> resulting in spurious emissions. >> >> Elecraft recommends that the internal counter probe be removed if the >> KPA100 is installed. See the KPA100 manual page 55. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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In reply to this post by Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)
Hi Sverre and all,
I just recompiled the programs so that Java Web Start is no longer used. I have only a linux machine to test things on, so can't guarantee things will run properly on other OSes at this point. Please email me offlist if things don't run. A few quick things about http://udel.edu/~mm/ham/elecraft/ : 1. Executables are now available as a zip file. 2. Source is now available as a .tar.bz2 file. 3. W1 also works with a W2 but not KAT500 despite a menu entry. 4. Please don't judge these spare time efforts too harshly. :-) 5. GUI work was often created with netbeans, so the netbeans-generated code is ugly when viewed with something other than it. Regarding (4), these are programs that work for me, but have not undergone any sort of serious testing. If you improve upon them, I'd love to get your updates! For the coders, a word of warning that internal documentation is often somewhat, ah, lacking... Tnx es 73, Mike ab3ap On 03/08/2015 05:22 PM, Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) wrote: > Hi Mike > > Good to hear from you. I don't really know what it takes to make the > programs more useful. All I know is that everything that has to do with Java > has gotten more and more difficult to use, especially for Windows users. I > am running Windows 7 here myself. > > Therefore, after quite some struggle with browsers and security, it was a > relief to find out that I could run the K2 Settings Retrieval Software from > the command line in Windows by just typing in > > javaws params.jnlp > > after having downloaded params.jnlp to my harddisk. I realize that the > security issues are caused by calls to your website. If a 100% local program > could do the same, then perhaps that would make it simpler, but I am just a > user, not a developer of these things, so I don't really know what it takes. > > > > > > ----- > Sverre, LA3ZA > > K2 #2198, K3 #3391, > LA3ZA Blog: http://la3za.blogspot.com, > LA3ZA Unofficial Guide to K2 modifications: http://la3za.blogspot.com/p/la3za-unofficial-guide-to-elecraft-k2.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi Mike
The K2 program compiles fine locally on my Windows 7 PC and runs without security warnings now. Thanks!
Sverre, LA3ZA
K2 #2198, K3 #3391, LA3ZA Blog: http://la3za.blogspot.com, LA3ZA Unofficial Guide to K2 modifications: http://la3za.blogspot.com/p/la3za-unofficial-guide-to-elecraft-k2.html |
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I want to thank AB3AP for the K2 parameter program; it is nice to be able to
record all the settings on my K2. I found one thing that maybe of interest I found when I ran it if the real time clock is on it takes about 3 minutes to run vs. the real time clock off it takes about 2 minutes 15 seconds. While the time difference is insignificant, the advantage of running with the real time clock is you do not get all the time print out. You do have to hit the menu button, after you run the parameter program with the real time clock off after the program says Done. On a different note, I can run the program fine from the web site, but I need directions on how to run the program off line. Could someone contact me off line and lead me step by step how to run the program off line. I am sure the reason I cannot get it to run off line is something simple. Thanks Steve K4JPN www.thewinstonator.com/K4JPN.htm ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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