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Hello all,
Like most others on this list, I absolutely love my K2, and I also have a second rig, kenwood ts-940sat. The ts940 has been waiting for parts for over 3mos. and I was considering replacing it. I would like to know of other list members personal experiences comparing the K2 receiver to either the Icom 756 pro series, the Knwd TS2000 or most specifically, the Yaesu FT1000MP MKV Field. If anyone has any personal experiences comparing the TS940s to the above mentioned rigs, I'd like to hear if you think its even worth replacing the 940s. Happy and Healthy New Year to all. -- 73 Larry WA2DGD _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Don't forget to consider a second K2. You won't be dissappointed.
Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456 ps: Seriously, you don't memtion WHY you want another rig. Other bands? General Coverage? Larger knobs? <snip> I would like to know of other list members personal experiences comparing the K2 receiver to either the Icom 756 pro series, the Knwd TS2000 or most specifically, the Yaesu FT1000MP MKV Field. </snip> _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Larry,
You have just explained the very reason that I have sold all of my Japanese radios. Service is expensive and slow. I now have all American made, and for the most part built myself from kits equipment. I would highly recommend the TenTec line of gear. The Jupiter or a used OMNI VI+ would work nicely. I also like the Orion and am ordering one at the end of January. But that radio is pricey and I am at that dangerous stage in life. I'm getting old and I'm trying to spend it all before I go :-)..... The folks at Ten Tec have always been easy and efficient to deal with. I love their radios as much as I love my K2. I have no financial interest in Ten Tec... I'm sure others will have different opinions, and they wil be equally valid to mine Dave, K4TO _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Larry - I owned a pair of Kenwood TS-940 rigs for about 12 years, and was generally very happy with them. I sold them a couple of years ago and replaced them with a pair of Yaesu FT-1000 MK V sets (the 200 W version) , with which I am also quite content. I put the Inrad front-end kit in the Mark 5's, along with a selection of Inrad filters for various modes and bandwidths. The K2 I have has the KDSP2, KNB2, KSB2, KBT2, KIO2, and the 160 meter kit, but not the 100W amplifier. The Mark 5 is a lot like the K2 (I only have one of those, HI) in that the front end is a lot more resistant to overload than was the '940's. A few operating sessions at the KL7Y contest station convinced me of the superior performance of the MK 5 over the 940 when the bands are very crowded and signal levels are high to very high. I think I like the DSP in the K2 better than the MK 5, mostly because the K2 DSP can be tweaked and fine tuned, whereas the MK 5 DSP is pretty much what you see is what you get. The MK 5 DSP works well enough, but I am sure there are lots of advances in noise reduction algorithms yet to be discovered. I generally prefer the K2 when band conditions permit the use of low power, but the Mark 5 has several operating features that the K2 does not, and I prefer the MK 5 for day to day use on SSB. I like the K2 better for CW, and it's receiver does have a more "open" sound than the MK 5. Either rig performs well, and I am sure the differences are simply a matter of personal preference. I did like the 940's implementation of passband tuning MUCH more than the MK 5 version. The 940 "high cut / low cut" selectivity control was and is much more intuitive, whereas the shift and width controls on the MK 5 are much harder to figure out. If Elecraft ever considers putting variable selectivity into a future "K3", then I hope they do it the way Kenwood did. The noise blanker for the K2 is adequate. The one in the MK 6 is better, but the one in the 940 is the best I have seen, even better than the old Drake R4C I had before I switched to the 940's. Don't know if this helps, but then again, it was free <grin> What's wrong with the 940? One of it's huge advantages is that it was built with discrete parts (mostly) and was very easy to service. Great for areas that don't have a well stocked parts house in the same town. The 940 is still a great 2nd rig, and I certainly wouldn't toss it out if it can be repaired at a reasonable cost. I have not looked at the Kenwood 2000 or the ICOM 756 series , so cannot offer anything there. - Jim, KL7CC Larry - WA2DGD wrote: > Hello all, > > Like most others on this list, I absolutely love my K2, and I also > have a second rig, kenwood ts-940sat. > The ts940 has been waiting for parts for over 3mos. and I was > considering replacing it. > I would like to know of other list members personal experiences > comparing the K2 receiver to either the Icom 756 pro series, the Knwd > TS2000 or most specifically, the Yaesu FT1000MP MKV Field. > If anyone has any personal experiences comparing the TS940s to the > above mentioned rigs, I'd like to hear if you think its even worth > replacing the 940s. > > Happy and Healthy New Year to all. > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hi Larry. Bet you get a lot of responses to this one! I've had
considerable experience comparing the K2 to other rigs but it's been a long time since I've had a TS-940S so any comments that I might make trying to compare it to the K2 would be useless. I do remember that the 940 was a very nice rig - worked lots of dx under adverse conditions with it and generally thought very highly of it. I'd probably just repair it! As to comparing the K2 to other "modern" radios, you might want to read the review I posted on eHam of my K2/100. Go to: http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/2357 and look for my review under my call sign: N4HH I can tell you that the "other" two rigs mentioned (in addition to the Collins) but not identified are the Icom 756 Pro II (had 2 or them at the time and a Pro III a bit later) and the Yaesu FT-1000MP Mark V - loaded with INRAD filters (almost $1000 worth including the roofing filter)! The other radios are excellent, have many desirable features and present themselves very well - but - well, check out the review. Just one person's opinion so YMMV. Now what I really wish is that I could take the guts of the K2, add a couple of additional features and put it into a Collins KWM-2 box. To me you just can't beat the aesthetics of the Collins S-line gear - but that's another story! 73 es hv fun -- Don N4HH, K2/100 #2028, KAT100, K1 #1456, KX1, etc, etc! _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I compared TS930 FT1KMP and my K2 3204
http://www.s55m.com/teh/RXPN.gif http://www.s55m.com/teh/K2930MP.jpg HNY 2006 to all Elecraft fans! Adi S55M 9A8WW _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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HI
I have a FT1000Mp Mk5 Field here that I have compared with the K2 many times, The Field is a great radio, with very nice audio for SSB work, my main problem with it is the CW rx noise , it sounds like someone blowing over a bottle top on the narrow filters, if I use the DSP it sounds better but hollow. The K2 just sounds better for CW (IMHO) I can listen to the audio from the K2 (or K1) for hours in the shack while im doing other tasks but the audio from the Field is tiring after a short while, im sure the Field is a very good radio for many folk but im just not using it , for that reason its now up for sale and I have now bought another K2 , a K2/100 now that sits next to the base QRP K2. I have a switch box connected to the K2 and the Field, tuned both into the same cw station and switched between the two, my wife who is not a radio ham and can not read any Morse has been sat in front of the two doing a blind test and she always chooses the K2 as the one that sounds "Nicer" . Good luck with your choice. 73 Happy New Year Paul M0BMN -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005 ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Larry - WA2DGD
On Dec 29, 2005, at 2:21 PM, Larry - WA2DGD wrote: > The ts940 has been waiting for parts for over 3mos. and I was > considering replacing it. > I would like to know of other list members personal experiences > comparing the K2 receiver to either the Icom 756 pro series, the > Knwd TS2000 or most specifically, the Yaesu FT1000MP MKV Field. You just can't beat the price / performance of the K2/100! The FT1000MP series (plain, MkV, and MkV Field) are all great radios. Far superior to the TS940. The TS2000 isn't that great an HF radio -- it's designed more for lots of buttons and VHF capability. The IC 756 Pro series are respectable rigs, but most contesters prefer the FT1000MP. I don't have any experience with the IC 756 Pro. I have used the FT-1000D and every flavor of the 'MP. All these rigs are going to be $3000 or so new. On the used market, you can find the FT-1000MP (plain) for a bit less than you can buy and build a new K2/100 with all the goodies. Another rig to consider in this price range is the Ten-Tec Orion (and Orion II). Of course, your best bet is to buy a second K2! Barring that, I'd recommend the Orion and then the FT-1000MP series. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: [hidden email] Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!" -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Larry - WA2DGD
> Like most others on this list, I absolutely love my K2, and I also > have a second rig, kenwood ts-940sat. > The ts940 has been waiting for parts for over 3mos. and I was > considering replacing it. > I would like to know of other list members personal experiences > comparing the K2 receiver to either the Icom 756 pro series, the Knwd > TS2000 or most specifically, the Yaesu FT1000MP MKV Field. > If anyone has any personal experiences comparing the TS940s to the > above mentioned rigs, I'd like to hear if you think its even worth > replacing the 940s. > > III. I like them all, for different reasons. I operate from two locations, and at one, the K2 is the main rig, and the ProIII is primary at the other, with a TS-940 as backup at each location. All of my operation is CW. The TS-940s have served me well for almost two decades, and I can't bring myself to sell them even though they're getting old enough that they're starting to get a little cranky (lost the power supply in one, which took out the finals, and the cooling fan has died in the other). The ProIII is my 'city' rig - the DSP really does a great job on the man-made hash at my urban location, and at that location it outperforms the K2 on receive - the K2's DSP is OK, but not nearly as good on the kind of urban spectrum pollution I have as the ProIII's. The ProIII's spectrum scope is very useful, at least for seeing at a glance where the pileups are, but while I really like it when I'm using the ProIII, I don't miss it when I'm using the K2 ... I'm not sure I can say for sure whether I like the K2/100 or the ProIII the most - each has aspects that I really like. I haven't used the two side-by-side much but at least in the country, I don't think there's anything I can hear on one that I can't hear on the other, whether chasing DX or working contests (in town, the ProIII definitely wins because the way its DSP mashes down the noise). To get back to your question about replacing the TS-940 ... if you can get it working again, I'd keep it. It's a great rig, and unless you have a special need, such as handling the kind of city hash I have in town, spending $3K+ on a newer Japanese rig won't get you $3k worth of improvement. /Paul W3PH _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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