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Brian F. Wruble-2

K3/0 Question

I was planning to use my K3, currently being built, remotely. I note in the
operator's manual that you are advised not to interrupt power to the rig,
but to always use the power button to turn it on and off..

That kind of kills my plans for remotely powering up and down using an
internet controlled switch.

My question is:

*Does the K3/0 handle power on/off for the K3?*
*
*
Tnx. 73 de Brian W3BW

*Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.

*70 is the new 40.*
*
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Doug Joyce

Re: K3/0 Question

GM Brian:

The K3/10 I'm using and my friends K3/0 both used at control sites turn the
power On & Off to the K3/100 used at the radio site, so I expect that the
new "mini" K3/0 would as well. Suggest that you use an internet controlled
switch to turn on the AC to the 12 V power supply and then the "Power"
switch on the K3/0 will turn on and link to the K3/100. It all works very
well.

73, Doug VE3MV

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian F. Wruble" <[hidden email]>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:41 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question

>I was planning to use my K3, currently being built, remotely. I note in the
> operator's manual that you are advised not to interrupt power to the rig,
> but to always use the power button to turn it on and off..
>
> That kind of kills my plans for remotely powering up and down using an
> internet controlled switch.
>
> My question is:
>
> *Does the K3/0 handle power on/off for the K3?*
> *
> *
> Tnx. 73 de Brian W3BW
>
>
> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
>
> *70 is the new 40.*
> *
> Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
> Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD 21930
> eFax 305.768.0278
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Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2

Re: K3/0 Question

I'm fairly sure that the K3/0 will NOT power off a remote K3. It
certainly won't power it on. However if you use it in conjunction with
a RemoteRig setup, that WILL handle power on/off of the remote K3.

73,

~iain / N6ML

On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:08 AM, D Joyce <[hidden email]> wrote:

> GM Brian:
>
> The K3/10 I'm using and my friends K3/0 both used at control sites turn the
> power On & Off to the K3/100 used at the radio site, so I expect that the
> new "mini" K3/0 would as well. Suggest that you use an internet controlled
> switch to turn on the AC to the 12 V power supply and then the "Power"
> switch on the K3/0 will turn on and link to the K3/100. It all works very
> well.
>
> 73, Doug VE3MV
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian F. Wruble" <[hidden email]>
> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:41 AM
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question
>
>
>
>> I was planning to use my K3, currently being built, remotely. I note in
>> the
>> operator's manual that you are advised not to interrupt power to the rig,
>> but to always use the power button to turn it on and off..
>>
>> That kind of kills my plans for remotely powering up and down using an
>> internet controlled switch.
>>
>> My question is:
>>
>> *Does the K3/0 handle power on/off for the K3?*
>> *
>> *
>> Tnx. 73 de Brian W3BW
>>
>>
>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
>>
>> *70 is the new 40.*
>> *
>> Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
>> Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD 21930
>> eFax 305.768.0278
>> ______________________________________________________________
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Doug Joyce

Re: K3/0 Question

Hi Iain: Thanks for the clarification - the units I spoke of below are both
being used with the (Control & Radio) RRC-1258 equipments from Microbit
(www.remoterig.com). Sorry I didn't make that clear.

73, Doug VE3MV

----- Original Message -----
From: "iain macdonnell - N6ML" <[hidden email]>
To: "D Joyce" <[hidden email]>
Cc: <[hidden email]>; "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question

> I'm fairly sure that the K3/0 will NOT power off a remote K3. It
> certainly won't power it on. However if you use it in conjunction with
> a RemoteRig setup, that WILL handle power on/off of the remote K3.
>
> 73,
>
> ~iain / N6ML
>
>
> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:08 AM, D Joyce <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> GM Brian:
>>
>> The K3/10 I'm using and my friends K3/0 both used at control sites turn
>> the
>> power On & Off to the K3/100 used at the radio site, so I expect that the
>> new "mini" K3/0 would as well. Suggest that you use an internet
>> controlled
>> switch to turn on the AC to the 12 V power supply and then the "Power"
>> switch on the K3/0 will turn on and link to the K3/100. It all works
>> very
>> well.
>>
>> 73, Doug VE3MV
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian F. Wruble" <[hidden email]>
>> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:41 AM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question
>>
>>
>>
>>> I was planning to use my K3, currently being built, remotely. I note in
>>> the
>>> operator's manual that you are advised not to interrupt power to the
>>> rig,
>>> but to always use the power button to turn it on and off..
>>>
>>> That kind of kills my plans for remotely powering up and down using an
>>> internet controlled switch.
>>>
>>> My question is:
>>>
>>> *Does the K3/0 handle power on/off for the K3?*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> Tnx. 73 de Brian W3BW
>>>
>>>
>>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
>>>
>>> *70 is the new 40.*
>>> *
>>> Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
>>> Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD 21930
>>> eFax 305.768.0278
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>
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Brian F. Wruble-2

Re: K3/0 Question

Now I am confused.I liked Doug's first reply. Is that not the case? Someone else said the K3/0 will turn power off and on remotely at the slaved K3/100. Now I am hearing no it won't. Is that right?

I am surprised if Elecraft designed things so that you can totally remote control EXCEPT for power.

It is no trick to remotely control power to the DC supply, but the manual says if you shut the rig down there, there might be loss of some memory items.

--
70 is the new 40.

Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040
Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD 21930
eFax 305.768.0278 Skype bwruble

On May 19, 2013, at 1:28 PM, D Joyce <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Iain: Thanks for the clarification - the units I spoke of below are both being used with the (Control & Radio) RRC-1258 equipments from Microbit (www.remoterig.com). Sorry I didn't make that clear.
>
> 73, Doug VE3MV
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "iain macdonnell - N6ML" <[hidden email]>
> To: "D Joyce" <[hidden email]>
> Cc: <[hidden email]>; "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 12:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question
>
>
>> I'm fairly sure that the K3/0 will NOT power off a remote K3. It
>> certainly won't power it on. However if you use it in conjunction with
>> a RemoteRig setup, that WILL handle power on/off of the remote K3.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ~iain / N6ML
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:08 AM, D Joyce <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> GM Brian:
>>>
>>> The K3/10 I'm using and my friends K3/0 both used at control sites turn the
>>> power On & Off to the K3/100 used at the radio site, so I expect that the
>>> new "mini" K3/0 would as well. Suggest that you use an internet controlled
>>> switch to turn on the AC to the 12 V power supply and then the "Power"
>>> switch on the K3/0 will turn on and link to the K3/100. It all works very
>>> well.
>>>
>>> 73, Doug VE3MV
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian F. Wruble" <[hidden email]>
>>> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:41 AM
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I was planning to use my K3, currently being built, remotely. I note in
>>>> the
>>>> operator's manual that you are advised not to interrupt power to the rig,
>>>> but to always use the power button to turn it on and off..
>>>>
>>>> That kind of kills my plans for remotely powering up and down using an
>>>> internet controlled switch.
>>>>
>>>> My question is:
>>>>
>>>> *Does the K3/0 handle power on/off for the K3?*
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> Tnx. 73 de Brian W3BW
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
>>>>
>>>> *70 is the new 40.*
>>>> *
>>>> Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
>>>> Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD 21930
>>>> eFax 305.768.0278
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> Elecraft mailing list
>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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>>>
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Brian F. Wruble-2

Re: K3/0 Question

In reply to this post by Doug Joyce

Never mind. I get it. I had already assumed I'd be buying the RemoteRig pair along with the K3/0. So if everybody agrees that:

K3/0 to RemoteRig to Internet
Internet to RemoteRig to K3/100

leads to complete remote control, including power down and power up, then I am ready to buy as soon as the mini comes out.

Thanks,

Brian

--
70 is the new 40.

Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040
Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD 21930
eFax 305.768.0278 Skype bwruble

On May 19, 2013, at 1:28 PM, D Joyce <[hidden email]> wrote:

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ

Re: K3/0 Question

Administrator

In reply to this post by Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2

The K3/0 via the RemoteRig boxes absolutely -can- power up and down the remote K3. It uses a pin on the K3 AuxPort that acts the same as pressing the power button on the K3.

Powering up the K3/0 powers up the remote K3. And powering off the K3/0 powers off the remote K3. Also, if you lose the internet link, the remote K3 will gracefully power down.

73,

Eric
elecraft.com
_..._

On May 19, 2013, at 12:42 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'm fairly sure that the K3/0 will NOT power off a remote K3. It
> certainly won't power it on. However if you use it in conjunction with
> a RemoteRig setup, that WILL handle power on/off of the remote K3.
>
> 73,
>
> ~iain / N6ML
>
>
> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:08 AM, D Joyce <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> GM Brian:
>>
>> The K3/10 I'm using and my friends K3/0 both used at control sites turn the
>> power On & Off to the K3/100 used at the radio site, so I expect that the
>> new "mini" K3/0 would as well. Suggest that you use an internet controlled
>> switch to turn on the AC to the 12 V power supply and then the "Power"
>> switch on the K3/0 will turn on and link to the K3/100. It all works very
>> well.
>>
>> 73, Doug VE3MV
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian F. Wruble" <[hidden email]>
>> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:41 AM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question
>>
>>
>>
>>> I was planning to use my K3, currently being built, remotely. I note in
>>> the
>>> operator's manual that you are advised not to interrupt power to the rig,
>>> but to always use the power button to turn it on and off..
>>>
>>> That kind of kills my plans for remotely powering up and down using an
>>> internet controlled switch.
>>>
>>> My question is:
>>>
>>> *Does the K3/0 handle power on/off for the K3?*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> Tnx. 73 de Brian W3BW
>>>
>>>
>>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
>>>
>>> *70 is the new 40.*
>>> *
>>> Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
>>> Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD 21930
>>> eFax 305.768.0278
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> Elecraft mailing list
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>>
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Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2

Re: K3/0 Question

Hi Eric,

Agreed. My point was that it's the RemoteRig boxes that are doing the
power on/off, not the K3/0. The control RRC senses when the K3/0 is
powered on, and tells the radio RRC to send the power-on signal to the
remote K3. Since RemoteRig is not the only way to to utilise a K3/0
(although it may be the most common), it would be misrepresentative to
state that at the K3/0 (itself) is capable of powering on/off a remote
K3.

73,

~iain / N6ML

On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> The K3/0 via the RemoteRig boxes absolutely -can- power up and down the remote K3. It uses a pin on the K3 AuxPort that acts the same as pressing the power button on the K3.
>
> Powering up the K3/0 powers up the remote K3. And powering off the K3/0 powers off the remote K3. Also, if you lose the internet link, the remote K3 will gracefully power down.
>
> 73,
>
> Eric
> elecraft.com
> _..._
>
>
>
> On May 19, 2013, at 12:42 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I'm fairly sure that the K3/0 will NOT power off a remote K3. It
>> certainly won't power it on. However if you use it in conjunction with
>> a RemoteRig setup, that WILL handle power on/off of the remote K3.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ~iain / N6ML
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:08 AM, D Joyce <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> GM Brian:
>>>
>>> The K3/10 I'm using and my friends K3/0 both used at control sites turn the
>>> power On & Off to the K3/100 used at the radio site, so I expect that the
>>> new "mini" K3/0 would as well. Suggest that you use an internet controlled
>>> switch to turn on the AC to the 12 V power supply and then the "Power"
>>> switch on the K3/0 will turn on and link to the K3/100. It all works very
>>> well.
>>>
>>> 73, Doug VE3MV
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian F. Wruble" <[hidden email]>
>>> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:41 AM
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I was planning to use my K3, currently being built, remotely. I note in
>>>> the
>>>> operator's manual that you are advised not to interrupt power to the rig,
>>>> but to always use the power button to turn it on and off..
>>>>
>>>> That kind of kills my plans for remotely powering up and down using an
>>>> internet controlled switch.
>>>>
>>>> My question is:
>>>>
>>>> *Does the K3/0 handle power on/off for the K3?*
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> Tnx. 73 de Brian W3BW
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
>>>>
>>>> *70 is the new 40.*
>>>> *
>>>> Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
>>>> Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD 21930
>>>> eFax 305.768.0278
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> Elecraft mailing list
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>>>
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Jim AB3CV

Re: K3/0 Question

How is the CW sidetone handled? Does the K3/0 generate it locally or is it
somehow transferred to the remote K3? It doesn't take much of a lag to make
CW difficult to send unless the audio response is immediate.

Thanks

Jim

On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:37 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]>wrote:

> Hi Eric,
>
> Agreed. My point was that it's the RemoteRig boxes that are doing the
> power on/off, not the K3/0. The control RRC senses when the K3/0 is
> powered on, and tells the radio RRC to send the power-on signal to the
> remote K3. Since RemoteRig is not the only way to to utilise a K3/0
> (although it may be the most common), it would be misrepresentative to
> state that at the K3/0 (itself) is capable of powering on/off a remote
> K3.
>
> 73,
>
> ~iain / N6ML
>
>
> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > The K3/0 via the RemoteRig boxes absolutely -can- power up and down the
> remote K3. It uses a pin on the K3 AuxPort that acts the same as pressing
> the power button on the K3.
> >
> > Powering up the K3/0 powers up the remote K3. And powering off the K3/0
> powers off the remote K3. Also, if you lose the internet link, the remote
> K3 will gracefully power down.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Eric
> > elecraft.com
> > _..._
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 19, 2013, at 12:42 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm fairly sure that the K3/0 will NOT power off a remote K3. It
> >> certainly won't power it on. However if you use it in conjunction with
> >> a RemoteRig setup, that WILL handle power on/off of the remote K3.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> ~iain / N6ML
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:08 AM, D Joyce <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>> GM Brian:
> >>>
> >>> The K3/10 I'm using and my friends K3/0 both used at control sites
> turn the
> >>> power On & Off to the K3/100 used at the radio site, so I expect that
> the
> >>> new "mini" K3/0 would as well. Suggest that you use an internet
> controlled
> >>> switch to turn on the AC to the 12 V power supply and then the "Power"
> >>> switch on the K3/0 will turn on and link to the K3/100. It all works
> very
> >>> well.
> >>>
> >>> 73, Doug VE3MV
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian F. Wruble" <
> [hidden email]>
> >>> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:41 AM
> >>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I was planning to use my K3, currently being built, remotely. I note
> in
> >>>> the
> >>>> operator's manual that you are advised not to interrupt power to the
> rig,
> >>>> but to always use the power button to turn it on and off..
> >>>>
> >>>> That kind of kills my plans for remotely powering up and down using an
> >>>> internet controlled switch.
> >>>>
> >>>> My question is:
> >>>>
> >>>> *Does the K3/0 handle power on/off for the K3?*
> >>>> *
> >>>> *
> >>>> Tnx. 73 de Brian W3BW
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
> >>>>
> >>>> *70 is the new 40.*
> >>>> *
> >>>> Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
> >>>> Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD
> 21930
> >>>> eFax 305.768.0278
> >>>> ______________________________________________________________
> >>>> Elecraft mailing list
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Re: K3/0 Question

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Local cw sidetone is generated by the RemoteRigs for the K3/0.

Eric
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On May 19, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Jim Miller <[hidden email]> wrote:

> How is the CW sidetone handled? Does the K3/0 generate it locally or is it
> somehow transferred to the remote K3? It doesn't take much of a lag to make
> CW difficult to send unless the audio response is immediate.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:37 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Agreed. My point was that it's the RemoteRig boxes that are doing the
>> power on/off, not the K3/0. The control RRC senses when the K3/0 is
>> powered on, and tells the radio RRC to send the power-on signal to the
>> remote K3. Since RemoteRig is not the only way to to utilise a K3/0
>> (although it may be the most common), it would be misrepresentative to
>> state that at the K3/0 (itself) is capable of powering on/off a remote
>> K3.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ~iain / N6ML
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> The K3/0 via the RemoteRig boxes absolutely -can- power up and down the
>> remote K3. It uses a pin on the K3 AuxPort that acts the same as pressing
>> the power button on the K3.
>>>
>>> Powering up the K3/0 powers up the remote K3. And powering off the K3/0
>> powers off the remote K3. Also, if you lose the internet link, the remote
>> K3 will gracefully power down.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> elecraft.com
>>> _..._
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 19, 2013, at 12:42 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm fairly sure that the K3/0 will NOT power off a remote K3. It
>>>> certainly won't power it on. However if you use it in conjunction with
>>>> a RemoteRig setup, that WILL handle power on/off of the remote K3.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> ~iain / N6ML
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:08 AM, D Joyce <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> GM Brian:
>>>>>
>>>>> The K3/10 I'm using and my friends K3/0 both used at control sites
>> turn the
>>>>> power On & Off to the K3/100 used at the radio site, so I expect that
>> the
>>>>> new "mini" K3/0 would as well. Suggest that you use an internet
>> controlled
>>>>> switch to turn on the AC to the 12 V power supply and then the "Power"
>>>>> switch on the K3/0 will turn on and link to the K3/100. It all works
>> very
>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Doug VE3MV
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian F. Wruble" <
>> [hidden email]>
>>>>> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:41 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was planning to use my K3, currently being built, remotely. I note
>> in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> operator's manual that you are advised not to interrupt power to the
>> rig,
>>>>>> but to always use the power button to turn it on and off..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That kind of kills my plans for remotely powering up and down using an
>>>>>> internet controlled switch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Does the K3/0 handle power on/off for the K3?*
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> Tnx. 73 de Brian W3BW
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *70 is the new 40.*
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
>>>>>> Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD
>> 21930
>>>>>> eFax 305.768.0278
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N2TK

Re: K3/0 Question

In reply to this post by Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ

What about when you are trying to log on from a hotel that requires a log-on
procedure? Most hotels I stay at are set up for wireless and require some
form of procedure. Obviously no problem logging on with my laptop. But I
think one "feature" of RemoteRig is it does not need a PC. Is there a way to
get around this with RemoteRig? I want to set up remote control of my K3 and
the rest of my shack stuff when traveling on business.
73,
N2TK, Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz WA6HHQ -
Elecraft
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:32 PM
To: iain macdonnell - N6ML
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question

The K3/0 via the RemoteRig boxes absolutely -can- power up and down the
remote K3. It uses a pin on the K3 AuxPort that acts the same as pressing
the power button on the K3.

Powering up the K3/0 powers up the remote K3. And powering off the K3/0
powers off the remote K3. Also, if you lose the internet link, the remote K3
will gracefully power down.

73,

Eric
elecraft.com
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On May 19, 2013, at 12:42 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]> wrote:

and then the "Power"

>> switch on the K3/0 will turn on and link to the K3/100. It all works
>> very well.
>>
>> 73, Doug VE3MV
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian F. Wruble"
>> <[hidden email]>
>> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:41 AM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question
>>
>>
>>
>>> I was planning to use my K3, currently being built, remotely. I note
>>> in the operator's manual that you are advised not to interrupt power
>>> to the rig, but to always use the power button to turn it on and
>>> off..
>>>
>>> That kind of kills my plans for remotely powering up and down using
>>> an internet controlled switch.
>>>
>>> My question is:
>>>
>>> *Does the K3/0 handle power on/off for the K3?*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> Tnx. 73 de Brian W3BW
>>>
>>>
>>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
>>>
>>> *70 is the new 40.*
>>> *
>>> Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
>>> Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD
>>> 21930 eFax 305.768.0278
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Jim Rhodes-2

Re: K3/0 Question

This why I bought the mini also. Nothing extra to carry but a headset and
the mini, which is the size of a small USB soundcard only with a PTT button
on it. No control panel so you have to use HRD or other rig control
software. At the time you had to buy this direct as no
US distributors carried it, but I was going to be in Sweden anyway.

On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 9:08 PM, N2TK, Tony <[hidden email]> wrote:

> What about when you are trying to log on from a hotel that requires a
> log-on
> procedure? Most hotels I stay at are set up for wireless and require some
> form of procedure. Obviously no problem logging on with my laptop. But I
> think one "feature" of RemoteRig is it does not need a PC. Is there a way
> to
> get around this with RemoteRig? I want to set up remote control of my K3
> and
> the rest of my shack stuff when traveling on business.
> 73,
> N2TK, Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz WA6HHQ
> -
> Elecraft
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:32 PM
> To: iain macdonnell - N6ML
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question
>
> The K3/0 via the RemoteRig boxes absolutely -can- power up and down the
> remote K3. It uses a pin on the K3 AuxPort that acts the same as pressing
> the power button on the K3.
>
> Powering up the K3/0 powers up the remote K3. And powering off the K3/0
> powers off the remote K3. Also, if you lose the internet link, the remote
> K3
> will gracefully power down.
>
> 73,
>
> Eric
> elecraft.com
> _..._
>
>
>
> On May 19, 2013, at 12:42 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm fairly sure that the K3/0 will NOT power off a remote K3. It
> > certainly won't power it on. However if you use it in conjunction with
> > a RemoteRig setup, that WILL handle power on/off of the remote K3.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > ~iain / N6ML
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:08 AM, D Joyce <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> GM Brian:
> >>
> >> The K3/10 I'm using and my friends K3/0 both used at control sites
> >> turn the power On & Off to the K3/100 used at the radio site, so I
> >> expect that the new "mini" K3/0 would as well. Suggest that you use
> >> an internet controlled switch to turn on the AC to the 12 V power supply
> and then the "Power"
> >> switch on the K3/0 will turn on and link to the K3/100. It all works
> >> very well.
> >>
> >> 73, Doug VE3MV
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian F. Wruble"
> >> <[hidden email]>
> >> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
> >> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:41 AM
> >> Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> I was planning to use my K3, currently being built, remotely. I note
> >>> in the operator's manual that you are advised not to interrupt power
> >>> to the rig, but to always use the power button to turn it on and
> >>> off..
> >>>
> >>> That kind of kills my plans for remotely powering up and down using
> >>> an internet controlled switch.
> >>>
> >>> My question is:
> >>>
> >>> *Does the K3/0 handle power on/off for the K3?*
> >>> *
> >>> *
> >>> Tnx. 73 de Brian W3BW
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
> >>>
> >>> *70 is the new 40.*
> >>> *
> >>> Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
> >>> Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD
> >>> 21930 eFax 305.768.0278
> >>> ______________________________________________________________
> >>> Elecraft mailing list
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Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2

Re: K3/0 Question

Jim,

I think you're talking about the "RRC-Micro PC-Client"? That's
something completely different from the K3/0 Mini.

Tony's question was about using the regular RRCs *without* a PC, on
public wifi that requires browser-based login. I don't know if
RemoteRig has an answer for that or not. I can't think of a way to
make it work without a browser.

73,

~iain / N6ML

On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 5:59 AM, Jim Rhodes <[hidden email]> wrote:

> This why I bought the mini also. Nothing extra to carry but a headset and
> the mini, which is the size of a small USB soundcard only with a PTT button
> on it. No control panel so you have to use HRD or other rig control
> software. At the time you had to buy this direct as no
> US distributors carried it, but I was going to be in Sweden anyway.
>
>
> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 9:08 PM, N2TK, Tony <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> What about when you are trying to log on from a hotel that requires a
>> log-on
>> procedure? Most hotels I stay at are set up for wireless and require some
>> form of procedure. Obviously no problem logging on with my laptop. But I
>> think one "feature" of RemoteRig is it does not need a PC. Is there a way
>> to
>> get around this with RemoteRig? I want to set up remote control of my K3
>> and
>> the rest of my shack stuff when traveling on business.
>> 73,
>> N2TK, Tony
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz WA6HHQ
>> -
>> Elecraft
>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:32 PM
>> To: iain macdonnell - N6ML
>> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question
>>
>> The K3/0 via the RemoteRig boxes absolutely -can- power up and down the
>> remote K3. It uses a pin on the K3 AuxPort that acts the same as pressing
>> the power button on the K3.
>>
>> Powering up the K3/0 powers up the remote K3. And powering off the K3/0
>> powers off the remote K3. Also, if you lose the internet link, the remote
>> K3
>> will gracefully power down.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Eric
>> elecraft.com
>> _..._
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 19, 2013, at 12:42 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm fairly sure that the K3/0 will NOT power off a remote K3. It
>> > certainly won't power it on. However if you use it in conjunction with
>> > a RemoteRig setup, that WILL handle power on/off of the remote K3.
>> >
>> > 73,
>> >
>> > ~iain / N6ML
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:08 AM, D Joyce <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >> GM Brian:
>> >>
>> >> The K3/10 I'm using and my friends K3/0 both used at control sites
>> >> turn the power On & Off to the K3/100 used at the radio site, so I
>> >> expect that the new "mini" K3/0 would as well. Suggest that you use
>> >> an internet controlled switch to turn on the AC to the 12 V power supply
>> and then the "Power"
>> >> switch on the K3/0 will turn on and link to the K3/100. It all works
>> >> very well.
>> >>
>> >> 73, Doug VE3MV
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian F. Wruble"
>> >> <[hidden email]>
>> >> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:41 AM
>> >> Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> I was planning to use my K3, currently being built, remotely. I note
>> >>> in the operator's manual that you are advised not to interrupt power
>> >>> to the rig, but to always use the power button to turn it on and
>> >>> off..
>> >>>
>> >>> That kind of kills my plans for remotely powering up and down using
>> >>> an internet controlled switch.
>> >>>
>> >>> My question is:
>> >>>
>> >>> *Does the K3/0 handle power on/off for the K3?*
>> >>> *
>> >>> *
>> >>> Tnx. 73 de Brian W3BW
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
>> >>>
>> >>> *70 is the new 40.*
>> >>> *
>> >>> Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
>> >>> Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD
>> >>> 21930 eFax 305.768.0278
>> >>> ______________________________________________________________
>> >>> Elecraft mailing list
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Brandon Hansen [KG6YPI]

Re: Fwd: K3/0 Question

In reply to this post by Brian F. Wruble-2

Hello,

The "remote" K3 is powered on when the "control" K3 is powered on
and power off when the control K3 is powered off.

It is that simple ;)

73 for now
Brandon Hansen, KG6YPI

>> From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question
>> Date: May 19, 2013 10:49:33 AM PDT
>> To: D Joyce <[hidden email]>
>> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>>
>> Now I am confused.I liked Doug's first reply. Is that not the case? Someone else said the K3/0 will turn power off and on remotely at the slaved K3/100. Now I am hearing no it won't. Is that right?
>>
>> I am surprised if Elecraft designed things so that you can totally remote control EXCEPT for power.
>>
>> It is no trick to remotely control power to the DC supply, but the manual says if you shut the rig down there, there might be loss of some memory items.
>>
>>
>> --
>> 70 is the new 40.
>>
>> Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
>> 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040
>> Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD 21930
>> eFax 305.768.0278 Skype bwruble
>>
>>
>> On May 19, 2013, at 1:28 PM, D Joyce <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Iain: Thanks for the clarification - the units I spoke of below are both being used with the (Control & Radio) RRC-1258 equipments from Microbit (www.remoterig.com). Sorry I didn't make that clear.
>>>
>>> 73, Doug VE3MV
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "iain macdonnell - N6ML" <[hidden email]>
>>> To: "D Joyce" <[hidden email]>
>>> Cc: <[hidden email]>; "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 12:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm fairly sure that the K3/0 will NOT power off a remote K3. It
>>>> certainly won't power it on. However if you use it in conjunction with
>>>> a RemoteRig setup, that WILL handle power on/off of the remote K3.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> ~iain / N6ML
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:08 AM, D Joyce <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> GM Brian:
>>>>>
>>>>> The K3/10 I'm using and my friends K3/0 both used at control sites turn the
>>>>> power On & Off to the K3/100 used at the radio site, so I expect that the
>>>>> new "mini" K3/0 would as well. Suggest that you use an internet controlled
>>>>> switch to turn on the AC to the 12 V power supply and then the "Power"
>>>>> switch on the K3/0 will turn on and link to the K3/100. It all works very
>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Doug VE3MV
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian F. Wruble" <[hidden email]>
>>>>> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:41 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was planning to use my K3, currently being built, remotely. I note in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> operator's manual that you are advised not to interrupt power to the rig,
>>>>>> but to always use the power button to turn it on and off..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That kind of kills my plans for remotely powering up and down using an
>>>>>> internet controlled switch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Does the K3/0 handle power on/off for the K3?*
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> Tnx. 73 de Brian W3BW
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *70 is the new 40.*
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
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Re: K3/0 Question

In reply to this post by N2TK

Tony,

I am still groggy from the return flight from Dayton, but will try to
write a coherent answer:

The RRC has only an ethernet port. You can add an optional internal WLAN
card, but that won't solve the problem of having to click on a web page
to access the internet. Of course, as you suspected, the ethernet port
won't work in that situation as well.

The answer is an external WLAN bridge such as the Netgear WNCE2001 if
you need to access that way. The bridge is first booked into the network
using a PC/Mac, then moved over to the RRC. The disadvantage is that
only that single device can be used to access the network if you need to
pay for the service, otherwise you would have to pay again for a PC,
etc. This is because a network (Radius server) uses the MAC address of
the device for authentication.

Another solution would be a pocket router/bridge that provides an
ethernet port, as well as WLAN. This device books into the network and
allows multiple devices to use your bridge to utilize one single
(possibly paid) connection. There are several on the market that meet
this need.

The other method is to book into the network using WLAN on your PC/Mac
and "share" the ethernet port on it, in which the RRC is plugged into.
This is the cheapest method, since no extra hardware is required.
Downside: it can be tricky to implement in some Windows versions, plus
sometimes (depending again on O/S, etc.) you may be able to only share
that single ethernet port, leaving further devices that you may have
along without access.

Further information can be found at the RemoteRig forum web site at:
<http://www.remoterig.com/forum/index.php> using the search function.

Let me know if you have any further questions.

73,
Mitch DJ0QN

On 20.05.2013 04:08, N2TK, Tony wrote:

> What about when you are trying to log on from a hotel that requires a log-on
> procedure? Most hotels I stay at are set up for wireless and require some
> form of procedure. Obviously no problem logging on with my laptop. But I
> think one "feature" of RemoteRig is it does not need a PC. Is there a way to
> get around this with RemoteRig? I want to set up remote control of my K3 and
> the rest of my shack stuff when traveling on business.
> 73,
> N2TK, Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz WA6HHQ -
> Elecraft
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:32 PM
> To: iain macdonnell - N6ML
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question
>
> The K3/0 via the RemoteRig boxes absolutely -can- power up and down the
> remote K3. It uses a pin on the K3 AuxPort that acts the same as pressing
> the power button on the K3.
>
> Powering up the K3/0 powers up the remote K3. And powering off the K3/0
> powers off the remote K3. Also, if you lose the internet link, the remote K3
> will gracefully power down.
>
> 73,
>
> Eric
> elecraft.com
> _..._
>
>
>
> On May 19, 2013, at 12:42 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I'm fairly sure that the K3/0 will NOT power off a remote K3. It
>> certainly won't power it on. However if you use it in conjunction with
>> a RemoteRig setup, that WILL handle power on/off of the remote K3.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ~iain / N6ML
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:08 AM, D Joyce <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> GM Brian:
>>>
>>> The K3/10 I'm using and my friends K3/0 both used at control sites
>>> turn the power On & Off to the K3/100 used at the radio site, so I
>>> expect that the new "mini" K3/0 would as well. Suggest that you use
>>> an internet controlled switch to turn on the AC to the 12 V power supply
> and then the "Power"
>>> switch on the K3/0 will turn on and link to the K3/100. It all works
>>> very well.
>>>
>>> 73, Doug VE3MV
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian F. Wruble"
>>> <[hidden email]>
>>> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:41 AM
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I was planning to use my K3, currently being built, remotely. I note
>>>> in the operator's manual that you are advised not to interrupt power
>>>> to the rig, but to always use the power button to turn it on and
>>>> off..
>>>>
>>>> That kind of kills my plans for remotely powering up and down using
>>>> an internet controlled switch.
>>>>
>>>> My question is:
>>>>
>>>> *Does the K3/0 handle power on/off for the K3?*
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> Tnx. 73 de Brian W3BW
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
>>>>
>>>> *70 is the new 40.*
>>>> *
>>>> Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
>>>> Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD
>>>> 21930 eFax 305.768.0278
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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