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K3: ADC Ref calibration

Tom Whiteside
I'm wondering if this new ADC reference calibration affects any other calibration settings.    Are there other parts of the calibration procedure we should repeat after changing this setting from the default?
 
Tom Whiteside N5TW

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Re: K3: ADC Ref calibration

wayne burdick
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Tom Whiteside (N5TW) wrote:

> I'm wondering if this new ADC reference calibration affects any other
> calibration settings. Are there other parts of the calibration
> procedure we should repeat after changing this setting from the
> default?

Hi Tom,

At present only the PLL voltage and supply voltage measurements are
affected by the ADC REF calibration. You shouldn't have to re-do any
other calibration steps.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: K3: ADC Ref calibration

Tom Whiteside
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>Hi Tom,
>
>At present only the PLL voltage and supply voltage measurements are
>affected by the ADC REF calibration. You shouldn't have to re-do any
>other calibration steps.
>
>73,
>Wayne
>N6KR
 
Thanks Wayne,
    What prompted the question was getting a PLL error when using the sub receiver during the 10M contest.   I was running QRP so did not think it was temp related.   I've not had any occasion to try the sub receiver on 10M after initial testing so don't have a pre-firmware data point on that.   Re-running the PLL cal on the sub receiver cleared the problem.    I guess I should re-calibrate the main receiver PLL too...   Have not noticed any problems with the main receiver after doing the ADC Ref cal...
 
    I also had problems with SSB and my Alpha this weekend that I had wondered were maybe related to either the firmware upgrade or this ADC calibration.    I had to crank the power back to the point of turning off the 100W K3 amp to not overdrive the Alpha!   Calibrating the power at 50W did not affect that.   Have not tried reverting to the previous beta firmware.

Tom Whiteside N5TW

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Re: K3: ADC Ref calibration

VK5ABQ
Don't you hate it when your calibrated multimeter displays 5.00V on pin 2 of the ACC connector and you then don't have a reason for altering the setting? I feel like I've missed out :)
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Re: K3: ADC Ref calibration

Matt Zilmer
Just use a different (uncalibrated) DMM....  Then you can change the
setting _twice_!

matt zilmer, W6NIA

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:07:07 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

>
>Don't you hate it when your calibrated multimeter displays 5.00V on pin 2 of
>the ACC connector and you then don't have a reason for altering the setting?
>I feel like I've missed out :)
>
>
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>K3/10: S/N 2127, KBPF3, KFL3B-FM, KFL3A-6K, KFL3A-2.8K, KFL3A-400, KTCXO3-1
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Re: K3: ADC Ref calibration

VK5ABQ
The multimeter *did* read 5.007 volts but I couldn't enter the additional 7mV into the K3. Talk about annoying....

Matt Zilmer wrote
Just use a different (uncalibrated) DMM....  Then you can change the
setting _twice_!

matt zilmer, W6NIA

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:07:07 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

>
>Don't you hate it when your calibrated multimeter displays 5.00V on pin 2 of
>the ACC connector and you then don't have a reason for altering the setting?
>I feel like I've missed out :)
>
>
>-----
>Shane
>K3/10: S/N 2127, KBPF3, KFL3B-FM, KFL3A-6K, KFL3A-2.8K, KFL3A-400, KTCXO3-1
>& KXV3.
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Re: K3: ADC Ref calibration

Matt Zilmer
You have the satisfaction of knowing that your're right on the mark
then.  Well... at least very close.  AND you've been spot on the whole
time you've had the K3.

Suggestion:  Find somewhere else to tinker.  The S-Meter is a good
target.  There has been some debate on that.  Same with AGC
adjustments.

There is a lot to do here with the K3.  Operating it is the best part.
I think Elecraft has found us a whole new hobby, or a set of them.

73,
matt, W6NIA
K3 #24, K2 #2810, etc.


On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:39:28 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

>
>The multimeter *did* read 5.007 volts but I couldn't enter the additional 7mV
>into the K3. Talk about annoying....
>
>
>Matt Zilmer wrote:
>>
>> Just use a different (uncalibrated) DMM....  Then you can change the
>> setting _twice_!
>>
>> matt zilmer, W6NIA
>>
>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:07:07 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Don't you hate it when your calibrated multimeter displays 5.00V on pin 2
>of
>>>the ACC connector and you then don't have a reason for altering the
>setting?
>>>I feel like I've missed out :)
>>>
>>>
>>>-----
>>>Shane
>>>K3/10: S/N 2127, KBPF3, KFL3B-FM, KFL3A-6K, KFL3A-2.8K, KFL3A-400,
>KTCXO3-1
>>>& KXV3.
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>>
>
>
>-----
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>K3/10: S/N 2127, KBPF3, KFL3B-FM, KFL3A-6K, KFL3A-2.8K, KFL3A-400, KTCXO3-1
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Re: K3: ADC Ref calibration

VK5ABQ
I spend most of my time tinkering with the AGC-THR, AGC-SLP and RX-EQ - wish I had a dollar for every minute I've spent with the RX-EQ but that's The Other thread.


Matt Zilmer wrote
You have the satisfaction of knowing that your're right on the mark
then.  Well... at least very close.  AND you've been spot on the whole
time you've had the K3.

Suggestion:  Find somewhere else to tinker.  The S-Meter is a good
target.  There has been some debate on that.  Same with AGC
adjustments.

There is a lot to do here with the K3.  Operating it is the best part.
I think Elecraft has found us a whole new hobby, or a set of them.

73,
matt, W6NIA
K3 #24, K2 #2810, etc.


On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:39:28 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

>
>The multimeter *did* read 5.007 volts but I couldn't enter the additional 7mV
>into the K3. Talk about annoying....
>
>
>Matt Zilmer wrote:
>>
>> Just use a different (uncalibrated) DMM....  Then you can change the
>> setting _twice_!
>>
>> matt zilmer, W6NIA
>>
>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:07:07 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Don't you hate it when your calibrated multimeter displays 5.00V on pin 2
>of
>>>the ACC connector and you then don't have a reason for altering the
>setting?
>>>I feel like I've missed out :)
>>>
>>>
>>>-----
>>>Shane
>>>K3/10: S/N 2127, KBPF3, KFL3B-FM, KFL3A-6K, KFL3A-2.8K, KFL3A-400,
>KTCXO3-1
>>>& KXV3.
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>>
>
>
>-----
>Shane
>K3/10: S/N 2127, KBPF3, KFL3B-FM, KFL3A-6K, KFL3A-2.8K, KFL3A-400, KTCXO3-1
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Re: Re: K3: ADC Ref calibration

chen dave
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My DMM say only 4.93v on pin 2 of the ACC connector. After calibration, supply voltage measure show me 13.7V, actually it should be 13.85v(test on K3 PS connector).
During the 100w key down test, K3 shows 13.1~13.2v, but actually it should be 13.81V.
<I use DAIWA 32A PS>

So, I think 5V "standard" is not so stable. Maybe it is not so important to power supply
voltage test. but I think it is very important to TCXO module. According to my test, TCXO is
much sensitive to power supply voltage change (than temperature change).

Any comments?

73 de BA4RF David

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:06 AM, wayne burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
Tom Whiteside (N5TW) wrote:

I'm wondering if this new ADC reference calibration affects any other calibration settings. Are there other parts of the calibration procedure we should repeat after changing this setting from the default?

Hi Tom,

At present only the PLL voltage and supply voltage measurements are affected by the ADC REF calibration. You shouldn't have to re-do any other calibration steps.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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