K3: Automatic Character Spacing

[k7svv]

Wayne & Eric,
        Could I make an addition to the "list" please?  Back in the 70's I
built the Accu Keyer and Accu Memory that was published in QST.  It was
almost the size of a K2 by the time I got finished with it and it had ACS
(Automatic Character Spacing) which I loved dearly.  I would sure like to
see that feature added to the K3 along with a menu item that would be used
to turn ACS on and off.  As a matter of fact I would like to see the same
thing in the K1 and K2 too.

John    [K7SVV]

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[John W2XS]

I would like to second that request.  I still use the CMOS Super Keyer 1 which came after the Accukeyer and it has ACS which I miss when using the K2 and (soon - maybe this weekend - 35% assembled so far) K3. Once you get used to ACS, it is hard to do without it.  The K1EL, NorCal, and PK4 keyers, and others, have ACS.

73,

John W2XS

(BTW - IMHO - the software implementation of ACS in the Logikeyers, direct descendants of the CMOS Super Keyer, is not as good as the older, hardware-only implementation).

k7svv wrote

Wayne & Eric,
        Could I make an addition to the "list" please?  Back in the 70's I
built the Accu Keyer and Accu Memory that was published in QST.  It was
almost the size of a K2 by the time I got finished with it and it had ACS
(Automatic Character Spacing) which I loved dearly.  I would sure like to
see that feature added to the K3 along with a menu item that would be used
to turn ACS on and off.  As a matter of fact I would like to see the same
thing in the K1 and K2 too.

John    [K7SVV]

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[Evert Bakker (PA2KW)]

You can add me to the list of persons that would like to see that feature. I
do have the CMOS Super Keyer 1 as well and it's hard to get it right after
15 years of operating and suddenly missing ACS.

No top priority, but I would like to drop a separate piece of equipment.

73's, Evert PA2KW

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I would like to second that request.  I still use the CMOS Super Keyer 1
which came after the Accukeyer and it has ACS which I miss when using the K2
and (soon - maybe this weekend - 35% assembled so far) K3. Once you get used
to ACS, it is hard to do without it.  The K1EL, NorCal, and PK4 keyers, and
others, have ACS.

73,

John W2XS

(BTW - IMHO - the software implementation of ACS in the Logikeyers, direct
descendants of the CMOS Super Keyer, is not as good as the older,
hardware-only implementation).



k7svv wrote:
>
> Wayne & Eric,
>         Could I make an addition to the "list" please?  Back in the 70's I

> built the Accu Keyer and Accu Memory that was published in QST.  It was
> almost the size of a K2 by the time I got finished with it and it had ACS
> (Automatic Character Spacing) which I loved dearly.  I would sure like to
> see that feature added to the K3 along with a menu item that would be used

> to turn ACS on and off.  As a matter of fact I would like to see the same
> thing in the K1 and K2 too.
>
> John    [K7SVV]
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[KK7P]

> I wonder how far away we are from rigs in which you speak into a microphone
> and it transmits PSK, RTTY, CW or that "ancient" SSB modulation? And then,
> instead of a scrolling row of characters across a display, a voice of our
> choosing speaks whatever is being received in any of those modes.

Be careful, Ron.  You are then doing "digital voice" and must only do so
in the voice sub-bands...

73,

Lyle KK7P

(tongue firmly in cheek...  or is it?)

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[Brian Lloyd-6]

On May 23, 2008, at 1:49 PM, Lyle Johnson wrote:

>> I wonder how far away we are from rigs in which you speak into a  
>> microphone
>> and it transmits PSK, RTTY, CW or that "ancient" SSB modulation?  
>> And then,
>> instead of a scrolling row of characters across a display, a voice  
>> of our
>> choosing speaks whatever is being received in any of those modes.
>
> Be careful, Ron.  You are then doing "digital voice" and must only  
> do so in the voice sub-bands...

Yes, that is so silly. Bits is bits. If you want to be literal, it is  
all digital down at the quantum level.

So when we have a optimized adaptive protocol that adapts to available  
band conditions and available bandwidth and then enables or disables  
the codecs accordingly, what then? You might be doing "digital", i.e.  
text mode, and then start sending voice bits multiplexed over the same  
stream. Heavens!

Frankly, this means that the only reasonable mechanism for the future  
is a scheme based on transmit bandwidth. You tell the radio how much  
bandwidth it has to work with (or more likely it already knows based  
on the frequency and your class of license) and then it figures out  
which bit rates can be supported and enables the appropriate codecs.  
It can then fill the Shannon box any way it knows how.

Oh yes, the future could look mighty different!

Brian Lloyd
Granite Bay Montessori School          9330 Sierra College Bl
brian AT gbmontessori DOT com          Roseville, CA 95661
+1.916.367.2131 (voice)                +1.791.912.8170 (fax)

(Kids and teacher working diligently on the KPA100 to get the K2 ready  
for Field Day.)
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[Fraser Robertson]

Me too, 73 Fraser G4BJM
 
> k7svv wrote:> > > > Wayne & Eric,> > Could I make an addition to the "list" please? Back in the 70's I > > built the Accu Keyer and Accu Memory that was published in QST. It was > > almost the size of a K2 by the time I got finished with it and it had ACS > > (Automatic Character Spacing) which I loved dearly. I would sure like to > > see that feature added to the K3 along with a menu item that would be used > > to turn ACS on and off. As a matter of fact I would like to see the same > > thing in the K1 and K2 too.> > > > John [K7SVV] > > > >
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[Chris G3SJJ]

Auto character spacing for K3. Yes, please.

Chris G3SJJ
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[Joe Subich, W4TV-3]

> Auto character spacing for K3. Yes, please.

If ACS is implemented, PLEASE make it selectable.  I find ACS a
complete PITA as it results in "broken" characters for me.

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> Auto character spacing for K3. Yes, please.
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[Ken Kopp-3]

Please add me to the list of those who -don't- want ACS.
Or, at least make it selectable.

Keyers provide more than enough "crutches" now ....

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 20:31:32 -0400, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]>
wrote:

>
>> Auto character spacing for K3. Yes, please.
>
>If ACS is implemented, PLEASE make it selectable.  I find ACS a
>complete PITA as it results in "broken" characters for me.
>
>
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[Evert Bakker (PA2KW)]

ACS, would be nice (used it for the last 20 yrs)
Low priority (to me), I'm sure there are more important issues

73's, Evert PA2KW

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