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K3 Band changing...

Dave G.
What's wrong with
"FREQ ENT" -> '1' -> '4' -> '.' -> 'ENTER'
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Re: K3 Band changing...

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5 presses?
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On 29 May 2008, at 20:28, Dave G. wrote:

> What's wrong with
> "FREQ ENT" -> '1' -> '4' -> '.' -> 'ENTER'
> ?
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
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Re: K3 Band changing...

Mark Bayern
Sure sounds easier than turning off the plate supply, opening the top
of the cabinet, changing the coil(s), closing it up, turning the HV on
again, then tuning the rig for the new band.

Mark  AD5SS



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> 5 presses?
> --
> A good cook is like a sorceress who dispenses happiness.
> -Elsa Schiaparelli, fashion designer (1890-1973)
>
> On 29 May 2008, at 20:28, Dave G. wrote:
>
>> What's wrong with
>> "FREQ ENT" -> '1' -> '4' -> '.' -> 'ENTER'
>> ?
>> --
>> Dave G.   KK7SS
>> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
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Re: K3 Band changing...

Bob Nielsen-2
You forgot to add changing the coils in the HRO receiver :^)

Bob, N7XY

On May 29, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Mark Bayern wrote:

> Sure sounds easier than turning off the plate supply, opening the top
> of the cabinet, changing the coil(s), closing it up, turning the HV on
> again, then tuning the rig for the new band.
>
> Mark  AD5SS
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 3:04 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> 5 presses?
>> --
>> A good cook is like a sorceress who dispenses happiness.
>> -Elsa Schiaparelli, fashion designer (1890-1973)
>>
>> On 29 May 2008, at 20:28, Dave G. wrote:
>>
>>> What's wrong with
>>> "FREQ ENT" -> '1' -> '4' -> '.' -> 'ENTER'
>>> ?
>>> --
>>> Dave G.   KK7SS
>>> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
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>>>   Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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Re: K3 Band changing...

Mark Bayern
> You forgot to add changing the coils in the HRO receiver :^)

Also forgot changing the crystal ... but you get the point.
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Re: K3 Band changing...

ab2tc
We are indeed spoiled. If Elecraft could just fix the disappearing of ham bands on the BAND button when tuning to a non-ham-band frequency, I would be happy as punch. Not all radios have a dedicated button for each band (at least 11), which is really a waste of panel space. I have been happy band-switching (up/down buttons) with my IC-718 for years, but it doesn't have the Elecraft disappearance quirk.

Knut - AB2TC

Mark Bayern wrote
> You forgot to add changing the coils in the HRO receiver :^)

Also forgot changing the crystal ... but you get the point.
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Re: K3 Band changing...

Alan Bloom
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Many (many, many) years ago my station consisted of a Heathkit Apache
TX1 transmitter, Mohawk RX-1 receiver, and SB-10 SSB adapter.  I figured
that I had to switch or adjust a minimum of ---12--- controls to change
bands.  If I needed to change between LSB and USB, add two more for a
total of 14.  And that does not include switching antennas and changing
the dial frequency if required (on both transmitter and receiver).

That also does not include my 6 and 2 meter transverters.

In those days I thought twice before deciding to change bands.  :=)

On the other hand, the SB-10 phasing-type SSB exciter had absolutely
WONDERFUL-sounding audio.  I got unsolicited compliments on nearly every
QSO.

Al N1AL

P.S. The list as I recall it:

TX-1:  Bandswitch
       Tune/operate switch
       Driver tuning
       Driver gain
       Plate tuning
       Plate loading
RX-1:  Bandswitch
       Antenna trimmer
SB-10: Bandswitch
       Carrier null #1
       Carrier null #2
       Tuning


On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 13:33, Bob Nielsen wrote:

> You forgot to add changing the coils in the HRO receiver :^)
>
> Bob, N7XY
>
> On May 29, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Mark Bayern wrote:
>
> > Sure sounds easier than turning off the plate supply, opening the top
> > of the cabinet, changing the coil(s), closing it up, turning the HV on
> > again, then tuning the rig for the new band.
> >
> > Mark  AD5SS
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 3:04 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF
> > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> 5 presses?
> >> --
> >> A good cook is like a sorceress who dispenses happiness.
> >> -Elsa Schiaparelli, fashion designer (1890-1973)
> >>
> >> On 29 May 2008, at 20:28, Dave G. wrote:
> >>
> >>> What's wrong with
> >>> "FREQ ENT" -> '1' -> '4' -> '.' -> 'ENTER'
> >>> ?
> >>> --
> >>> Dave G.   KK7SS
> >>> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> >>> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
> >>>   Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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RE: K3 Band changing...

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Re: K3 Band changing...

w7aqk
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Alan and All,

I had nearly the same setup back in 1961-2 while stationed in Berlin,
Germany.  Built the Apache, which worked great, then added the SB-10 shortly
thereafter.  That was my first SSB venture, and you are right--the reports
were good.  Problem was though, the Apache was not the most stable
transmitter ever designed!  I had an annoying drift problem, which really
gets accentuated on SSB.  But Heathkit readily attributed it to a design
flaw on their part, and sent me different capacitors to use (temp.
compensating).  Got the Apache settled down sufficiently (but not 100%), and
life was good!  Kind of a brick though, compared to my 8 pound K3!

Dave W7AQK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Bloom" <[hidden email]>
To: "Bob Nielsen" <[hidden email]>
Cc: "elecraft List" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...


> Many (many, many) years ago my station consisted of a Heathkit Apache
> TX1 transmitter, Mohawk RX-1 receiver, and SB-10 SSB adapter.  I figured
> that I had to switch or adjust a minimum of ---12--- controls to change
> bands.  If I needed to change between LSB and USB, add two more for a
> total of 14.  And that does not include switching antennas and changing
> the dial frequency if required (on both transmitter and receiver).
>
> That also does not include my 6 and 2 meter transverters.
>
> In those days I thought twice before deciding to change bands.  :=)
>
> On the other hand, the SB-10 phasing-type SSB exciter had absolutely
> WONDERFUL-sounding audio.  I got unsolicited compliments on nearly every
> QSO.
>
> Al N1AL
>
> P.S. The list as I recall it:
>
> TX-1:  Bandswitch
>       Tune/operate switch
>       Driver tuning
>       Driver gain
>       Plate tuning
>       Plate loading
> RX-1:  Bandswitch
>       Antenna trimmer
> SB-10: Bandswitch
>       Carrier null #1
>       Carrier null #2
>       Tuning
>
>
> On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 13:33, Bob Nielsen wrote:
>> You forgot to add changing the coils in the HRO receiver :^)
>>
>> Bob, N7XY
>>
>> On May 29, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Mark Bayern wrote:
>>
>> > Sure sounds easier than turning off the plate supply, opening the top
>> > of the cabinet, changing the coil(s), closing it up, turning the HV on
>> > again, then tuning the rig for the new band.
>> >
>> > Mark  AD5SS
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 3:04 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF
>> > <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >> 5 presses?
>> >> --
>> >> A good cook is like a sorceress who dispenses happiness.
>> >> -Elsa Schiaparelli, fashion designer (1890-1973)
>> >>
>> >> On 29 May 2008, at 20:28, Dave G. wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> What's wrong with
>> >>> "FREQ ENT" -> '1' -> '4' -> '.' -> 'ENTER'
>> >>> ?
>> >>> --
>> >>> Dave G.   KK7SS
>> >>> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>> >>> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
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Re: K3 Band changing...

David Woolley (E.L)
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Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

> I've often looked at modern components and realized how easy it'd be to
> homebrew a phasing exciter. As a 99.9% CW buff, I've not been highly

I believe that most, if not all, DSP (i.e. both K3 type and PC type
SDRs) SSB modulators are essentially digital version of the phasing
design (although note that I am not an ESSB believer). (They might just
be third method, but that is still a phasing design.)

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