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K3 - CONFIG question

Gary Ferdinand
I am trying to manage an issue I have with my computer:K3 connection.
Whenever the computer changes power state (on to sleep, sleep to on, etc.),
it appears the serial (true serial) port burps and the rig gets keyed.  And
of course when I power up the K3 in the morning I always am forgetting to
put it into tx-test mode.

Thus my question.  Is there a means by which I can force the K3 to come up
in tx-test mode?  This could be a setting which I've overlooked, or perhaps
some sort of "start programs" list that is only executed at K3 reboot.  

All ideas much appreciated.

73/Gary W2CS

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Re: K3 - CONFIG question

Dick Dievendorff
Do you need to key the radio with the RS-232 flow control lines?

The K3 CONFIG:PTT-KEY menu item can be set to OFF OFF unless you're using a
program that requires it...

Dick, K6KR


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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - CONFIG question

I am trying to manage an issue I have with my computer:K3 connection.
Whenever the computer changes power state (on to sleep, sleep to on, etc.),
it appears the serial (true serial) port burps and the rig gets keyed.  And
of course when I power up the K3 in the morning I always am forgetting to
put it into tx-test mode.

Thus my question.  Is there a means by which I can force the K3 to come up
in tx-test mode?  This could be a setting which I've overlooked, or perhaps
some sort of "start programs" list that is only executed at K3 reboot.  

All ideas much appreciated.

73/Gary W2CS

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Re: K3 - CONFIG question

Irwin KD3TB
I have found that one program (MixW - a general logging and digital program)
requires me to set PTT-KEY to an RTS-DTR setting. I have not been able to
find a work around.

Irwin



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Do you need to key the radio with the RS-232 flow control lines?

The K3 CONFIG:PTT-KEY menu item can be set to OFF OFF unless you're using a
program that requires it...

Dick, K6KR


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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - CONFIG question

I am trying to manage an issue I have with my computer:K3 connection.
Whenever the computer changes power state (on to sleep, sleep to on, etc.),
it appears the serial (true serial) port burps and the rig gets keyed.  And
of course when I power up the K3 in the morning I always am forgetting to
put it into tx-test mode.

Thus my question.  Is there a means by which I can force the K3 to come up
in tx-test mode?  This could be a setting which I've overlooked, or perhaps
some sort of "start programs" list that is only executed at K3 reboot.  

All ideas much appreciated.

73/Gary W2CS

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Re: K3 - CONFIG question

Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA)
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What are the correct settings of the K3 and of N1MM for keying (CW) the K3 from N1MM?
Sorry if this has been answered in the past - if so pse just a link.
Poul-Erik, OZ4UN

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I have found that one program (MixW - a general logging and digital program) requires me to set PTT-KEY to an RTS-DTR setting. I have not been able to find a work around.

Irwin



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Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:20 AM
To: 'Gary Ferdinand'
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - CONFIG question

Do you need to key the radio with the RS-232 flow control lines?

The K3 CONFIG:PTT-KEY menu item can be set to OFF OFF unless you're using a program that requires it...

Dick, K6KR


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Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:00 AM
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - CONFIG question

I am trying to manage an issue I have with my computer:K3 connection.
Whenever the computer changes power state (on to sleep, sleep to on, etc.), it appears the serial (true serial) port burps and the rig gets keyed.  And of course when I power up the K3 in the morning I always am forgetting to put it into tx-test mode.

Thus my question.  Is there a means by which I can force the K3 to come up in tx-test mode?  This could be a setting which I've overlooked, or perhaps some sort of "start programs" list that is only executed at K3 reboot.  

All ideas much appreciated.

73/Gary W2CS

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Re: K3 - CONFIG question

Val-12
Poul-Erik,

I have here K3 PTT-KEY as OFF-DTR and N1MM as 38400, N,8,2, DTR-CW,
RTS-Always Off.

73 Val LZ1VB


>What are the correct settings of the K3 and of N1MM for keying (CW) the K3
>from N1MM?
>Sorry if this has been answered in the past - if so pse just a link.
>Poul-Erik, OZ4UN


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Re: K3 - CONFIG question

Chester Alderman
Val -- That is good information, but why 38400/N/8/2 ? My manual says the
stop-bits should be set to '1' ? Is your keying working with N1MM the way
you have it?

73,
Tom - W4BQF


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Poul-Erik,

I have here K3 PTT-KEY as OFF-DTR and N1MM as 38400, N,8,2, DTR-CW,
RTS-Always Off.

73 Val LZ1VB


>What are the correct settings of the K3 and of N1MM for keying (CW) the K3
>from N1MM?
>Sorry if this has been answered in the past - if so pse just a link.
>Poul-Erik, OZ4UN


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Re: K3 - CONFIG question

Jon Kåre Hellan
Tommy Alderman wrote:
> Val -- That is good information, but why 38400/N/8/2 ? My manual says the
> stop-bits should be set to '1' ? Is your keying working with N1MM the way
> you have it?

You made me curious. Turns out that the stop bit is a minimum silent period between symbols.
At least, that's what Wikiepdia says (Asynchronous serial communication article).
So 2 won't hurt even if 1 is sufficient.

73
Jon LA4RT
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Re: K3 - CONFIG question

Chester Alderman
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Poul-Erik,

To get N1MM Logger to key my K3, here are my settings that work:

K3: RS232 = 38400
        CONFIG:PTT-KEY = rts + dtr

N1MM Config/Hardware
                Com 3: Elecraft K3 (in my case)
                CW/other  checked
SET: 38400/N/8/1
                DTR = CW
                RTS = Always OFF

This works and follows N1MM CW speed settings up to its max, plus VOX and
PTT still works. Of course if you have other software that you use, then you
have to reconfigure your K3 for that software.

73,
Tom - W4BQF


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What are the correct settings of the K3 and of N1MM for keying (CW) the K3
from N1MM?
Sorry if this has been answered in the past - if so pse just a link.
Poul-Erik, OZ4UN


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Re: K3 - CONFIG question

Val-12
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Tom,

I am using SD contest logger, where 2 stop bits were set by default for K3.
That's why now I set N1MM on my second computer the same way. Actually
K3-N1MM connection works fine here with 1 or 2 stop bits set, no difference.

73 Val LZ1VB



> Val -- That is good information, but why 38400/N/8/2 ? My manual says the
> stop-bits should be set to '1' ? Is your keying working with N1MM the way
> you have it?
>
> 73,
> Tom - W4BQF
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - CONFIG question
>
> Poul-Erik,
>
> I have here K3 PTT-KEY as OFF-DTR and N1MM as 38400, N,8,2, DTR-CW,
> RTS-Always Off.
>
> 73 Val LZ1VB
>
>
>>What are the correct settings of the K3 and of N1MM for keying (CW) the K3
>>from N1MM?
>>Sorry if this has been answered in the past - if so pse just a link.
>>Poul-Erik, OZ4UN

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Re: K3 - CONFIG question

Chester Alderman
Ok Val. I just tend to go with what the designers specify and that is why I
use their specified 1 stop-bit.

73,
Tom - W4BQF


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Tom,

I am using SD contest logger, where 2 stop bits were set by default for K3.
That's why now I set N1MM on my second computer the same way. Actually
K3-N1MM connection works fine here with 1 or 2 stop bits set, no difference.

73 Val LZ1VB



> Val -- That is good information, but why 38400/N/8/2 ? My manual says the
> stop-bits should be set to '1' ? Is your keying working with N1MM the way
> you have it?
>
> 73,
> Tom - W4BQF
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - CONFIG question
>
> Poul-Erik,
>
> I have here K3 PTT-KEY as OFF-DTR and N1MM as 38400, N,8,2, DTR-CW,
> RTS-Always Off.
>
> 73 Val LZ1VB
>
>
>>What are the correct settings of the K3 and of N1MM for keying (CW) the K3
>>from N1MM?
>>Sorry if this has been answered in the past - if so pse just a link.
>>Poul-Erik, OZ4UN

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Re: K3 - CONFIG question

Jack Brabham KZ5A
  The "industry standard" for ascii async has been "8, none, and 1"
since RS-232 baud rates rose above 1200 in the early eighty's.    The
other odd settings are supported for compatibility with really really
ancient technology.

73 Jack KZ5A
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Re: K3 - CONFIG question

Bill W4ZV
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Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA) wrote
What are the correct settings of the K3 and of N1MM for keying (CW) the K3 from N1MM?
Sorry if this has been answered in the past - if so pse just a link.
http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=Supported+Radios#K3

Note that there are two alternatives to keying the K3 (Winkeyer or not) covered in the last 2 bullet points.  

73,  Bill