K3 Channel Hopping

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Fred

Channel hopping as done by Kenwood, Yaesu and Icom is what I really want with the ability to use the VFO B as a memory/channel change knob and VFO A as it normally is used.

I do not know if there is a specific limitation of the K3 or whether it is just a case of being too far down someone's list that we are not there yet.

I suspect this "list" is quite long still as some of the advertised features from the K3 release sheet are still not available and many owners have been very patient to date but I wonder how long they might continue waiting before giving up?

I know asynchronous AM is one such item I believe is yet to be done, although I don't need that myself.

For now I will just wait and hope Elecraft publish a list of what is coming...maybe within at least a 12 month time period without giving away "state secrets" as I am sure K/Y/I know what the K3 lacks in relation to their products.

It will be interesting to see if we get any feedback from Elecraft on real Channel Hopping as I don't recall any response in the past and web browsing is cumbersome for me without a PC...:-)

73's
Gary. VK4WT/P
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[W7GJ, Lance]

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> Fred
>
> Channel hopping as done by Kenwood, Yaesu and Icom is what I really want with the
> ability to use the VFO B as a memory/channel change knob and VFO A as it normally
> is used.
>
That would be a very interesting option ;-)  It also would be very nice (although
maybe it already is possible to do this) to be able to download memories (alpha
titles plus frequencies and mode settings) via a computer file or via the Elecraft
Utility.  I am looking ahead to the next F2 cycle on 6m, when it will be helpful to
have dozens (actually over a hundred) different memories stored to be able to watch
for propagation indicators below 50 MHz.

VY 73, Lance
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[Dave, G4AON]

VFO/memory operation is done pretty well on the Kenwood TS480 and TS570,
I don't know why if Elecraft can crib their serial comms protocol they
can't also use their memory arrangement too... For those who haven't
used one of these Kenwood radios, there is a V/M (VFO/memory) button...
When in memory mode when you rotate the multi-knob the radio behaves as
if it was crystal controlled and allows you to listen to each stored
memory in turn without any messing around and no need to store a "*" in
the memory name or press a further button to listen to the memory
content. There is also a "quick memory in" button that stores to 5
memories which also can be accessed by rotating the multi-knob. On a K3
the RIT knob may serve as a multi-knob.

I guess that without a new front panel we will still have a poor user
interface as regards VFO and memory control.

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
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[Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy]

Lance Collister, W7GJ, wrote:

> I am looking ahead to the next F2 cycle on 6m, when it will be helpful to
> have dozens (actually over a hundred) different memories stored to be able
> to watch
> for propagation indicators below 50 MHz.

The problem IMHO with having a receiver hop channels to watch or "follow the
MUF", is that while it is doing this the receiver is not available for
normal use. If a panadapter with lots of markers (a form of stored memories)
is available, then there is no need to have the receiver hop channels. What
is then required is some form of selective "alert" arrangement which sounds
off should a signal appear at one or more of the marked frequencies.

This is not a new idea.

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD






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[n7ws]

The Kenwood TS-870 does exactly the same.

Another thing it does and that I suggested for the K3 is this:

With both RIT and XIT "Off" change the function to force the frequency
to the nearest whole number value on the first step.  For example if
the current frequency is 14.201 MHz and the coarse tuning steps are 5
KHz, then the first step would be to either 14.200 or 14.205 (depending
on direction) then the following steps would be to 14.210, 14.215... if
tuning up or 14.195, 14.190...if tuning down.

On Dec 17, 2008 Richard, AD7FZ, wrote: "Hello Wes, yes this is a good idea. I've sent your request off to our software engineers to work on."

Somewhere is a disconnect.

Ergonomics is one reason why, with the '870 and the K3 side-by-side, I still reach for the '870.

Wes N7WS

--- On Fri, 8/21/09, Dave G4AON <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Dave G4AON <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Channel Hopping
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 12:48 AM

VFO/memory operation is done pretty well on the Kenwood TS480 and TS570,
I don't know why if Elecraft can crib their serial comms protocol they
can't also use their memory arrangement too... For those who haven't
used one of these Kenwood radios, there is a V/M (VFO/memory) button...
When in memory mode when you rotate the multi-knob the radio behaves as
if it was crystal controlled and allows you to listen to each stored
memory in turn without any messing around and no need to store a "*" in
the memory name or press a further button to listen to the memory
content. There is also a "quick memory in" button that stores to 5
memories which also can be accessed by rotating the multi-knob. On a K3
the RIT knob may serve as a multi-knob.

I guess that without a new front panel we will still have a poor user
interface as regards VFO and memory control.

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80




     
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[Dave, G4AON]

So long as they remember to keep rapid tune via the RIT knob function
set to not round off the frequency (VFO OFS menu item), this can lead to
the accidentally loss of a contact on CW.

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
----------------------

Another thing it does and that I suggested for the K3 is this:

With both RIT and XIT "Off" change the function to force the frequency
to the nearest whole number value on the first step.  For example if
the current frequency is 14.201 MHz and the coarse tuning steps are 5
KHz, then the first step would be to either 14.200 or 14.205 (depending
on direction) then the following steps would be to 14.210, 14.215... if
tuning up or 14.195, 14.190...if tuning down.

On Dec 17, 2008 Richard, AD7FZ, wrote: "Hello Wes, yes this is a good
idea. I've sent your request off to our software engineers to work on."

Somewhere is a disconnect.
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[n7ws]

Another needed feature is a "remember and revert to the way the radio was just before accidentally hitting the V>M button instead of the M>V button."

--- On Fri, 8/21/09, Dave G4AON <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Dave G4AON <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Channel Hopping
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 7:55 AM

So long as they remember to keep rapid tune via the RIT knob function
set to not round off the frequency (VFO OFS menu item), this can lead to
the accidentally loss of a contact on CW.

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
----------------------

Another thing it does and that I suggested for the K3 is this:

With both RIT and XIT "Off" change the function to force the frequency
to the nearest whole number value on the first step.  For example if
the current frequency is 14.201 MHz and the coarse tuning steps are 5
KHz, then the first step would be to either 14.200 or 14.205 (depending
on direction) then the following steps would be to 14.210, 14.215... if
tuning up or 14.195, 14.190...if tuning down.

On Dec 17, 2008 Richard, AD7FZ, wrote: "Hello Wes, yes this is a good
idea. I've sent your request off to our software engineers to work on."

Somewhere is a disconnect.


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[Brett Howard]

I agree that this would be nice... Such that if you overwrite a memory
on accident then pressing CLR would revert the memory back to its
original state.  I mentioned this before and I think Wayne mentioned it
as one of those things he'd like to get done some day.

~Brett

On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 07:16 -0700, Wes Stewart wrote:

> Another needed feature is a "remember and revert to the way the radio was just before accidentally hitting the V>M button instead of the M>V button."
>
> --- On Fri, 8/21/09, Dave G4AON <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> From: Dave G4AON <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Channel Hopping
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 7:55 AM
>
> So long as they remember to keep rapid tune via the RIT knob function
> set to not round off the frequency (VFO OFS menu item), this can lead to
> the accidentally loss of a contact on CW.
>
> 73 Dave, G4AON
> K3/100 #80
> ----------------------
>
> Another thing it does and that I suggested for the K3 is this:
>
> With both RIT and XIT "Off" change the function to force the frequency
> to the nearest whole number value on the first step.  For example if
> the current frequency is 14.201 MHz and the coarse tuning steps are 5
> KHz, then the first step would be to either 14.200 or 14.205 (depending
> on direction) then the following steps would be to 14.210, 14.215... if
> tuning up or 14.195, 14.190...if tuning down.
>
> On Dec 17, 2008 Richard, AD7FZ, wrote: "Hello Wes, yes this is a good
> idea. I've sent your request off to our software engineers to work on."
>
> Somewhere is a disconnect.
>
>
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