Hi all,
I am looking to replace the DC power cable that came with my K3. It is rather small gage and way longer than I need. I have found a candidate replacement wire in my junk box which I think is leftover wire from shortening the power cable from my IC-718 or IC-7200. It's at least 12 gage, possibly 10, way heftier than the Elecraft cable. So all I need is a new APP connector. Where should I look for a top quality connector? I will be soldering the connection. I will not be spending the money for a crimper and I am a skeptic about the claimed superiority of crimped connections anyway. Vibration is not an issue in my shack installation. AB2TC - Knut |
Knut,
Elecraft sells them. Part# APPCON on http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm Several other vendors carry them if you want to buy in bulk. http://www.powerwerx.com/anderson-powerpoles/powerpole-sets/ 73, Doug KF4VTT http://home.mebtel.net/~kf4vtt/ |
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On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:13:22 -0700 (PDT), ab2tc wrote:
>Where should I look for a top quality connector? I've converted all of my DC wiring to Power Poles, so I've put together more than a hundred of these connectors. There are three sizes of pins that fit the red and black shells used by Elecraft. The small size is best for wires smaller than #18; the middle size (most common) works up to #12, the larger size goes up to #8 (and can be a very snug fit in the shell). I've always bought them from hamfest vendors, but there are several vendors who advertise in QST who sell them. They usually come in packs of ten, or ten pairs. I've never crimped them, always soldered. Remember that voltage drop is proportional to length, so shorter is better. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
The power pole connector cable I recd with my k3 has no place for a pin.
The darned thing keeps disconnecting. HELP Great Grandmaw Susan If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm AFA9SM USSV DHARMA --- On Sun, 7/25/10, Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Jim Brown <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] DC Power cable > To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 6:41 AM > On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:13:22 -0700 > (PDT), ab2tc wrote: > > >Where should I look for a top quality connector? > > I've converted all of my DC wiring to Power Poles, so I've > put > together more than a hundred of these connectors. There are > three > sizes of pins that fit the red and black shells used by > Elecraft. > The small size is best for wires smaller than #18; the > middle size > (most common) works up to #12, the larger size goes up to > #8 (and > can be a very snug fit in the shell). I've always bought > them from > hamfest vendors, but there are several vendors who > advertise in QST > who sell them. They usually come in packs of ten, or ten > pairs. I've > never crimped them, always soldered. > > Remember that voltage drop is proportional to length, so > shorter is > better. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Susan,
That usually means the APP was not assembled properly. Make certain the blades are fully inserted into the housing. The blades must latch over the spring fingers that are in the housing and it takes a good push with a thin screwdriver or other tool to seat properly. When properly assembled, it takes about a 25 pound pull to disengage them. If you assembled your K3 from a kit, check the connector on the K3 as well as the one on the cable - OR just check it anyway, there is always a chance that a factory assembler did not push hard enough to lock the blade. If you mean that the red and black housings come apart, put a drop of superglue on the mating surfaces and they should be tight. There is a hole intended for a roll-pin, but often the roll pin comes out and gets into places no metal should be, so if you do use a roll-pin, secure it with a bit of superglue. 73, Don W3FPR ussv dharma wrote: > The power pole connector cable I recd with my k3 has no place for a pin. > > The darned thing keeps disconnecting. > > > HELP > > > Great Grandmaw Susan > > If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm AFA9SM USSV DHARMA > > > --- On Sun, 7/25/10, Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >> From: Jim Brown <[hidden email]> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] DC Power cable >> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >> Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 6:41 AM >> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:13:22 -0700 >> (PDT), ab2tc wrote: >> >> >>> Where should I look for a top quality connector? >>> >> I've converted all of my DC wiring to Power Poles, so I've >> put >> together more than a hundred of these connectors. There are >> three >> sizes of pins that fit the red and black shells used by >> Elecraft. >> The small size is best for wires smaller than #18; the >> middle size >> (most common) works up to #12, the larger size goes up to >> #8 (and >> can be a very snug fit in the shell). I've always bought >> them from >> hamfest vendors, but there are several vendors who >> advertise in QST >> who sell them. They usually come in packs of ten, or ten >> pairs. I've >> never crimped them, always soldered. >> >> Remember that voltage drop is proportional to length, so >> shorter is >> better. >> >> 73, Jim K9YC >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I buy my PowerPole stuff at http://www.connex-electronics.com/.
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On 7/25/2010 10:28 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> If you mean that the red and black housings come apart, put a > drop of superglue on the mating surfaces and they should be > tight. There is a hole intended for a roll-pin, but often the > roll pin comes out and gets into places no metal should be, so if > you do use a roll-pin, secure it with a bit of superglue. I have found that using the smallest size cable tie a.k.a."Ty-Rap" (tm) through the holes serves to keep the connectors together and the bodies from separating. Easy enough to separate if needed. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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When assembling APP connectors, I prefer to jam a wooden toothpick
tightly into the hole and cut off both ends. No risk of a short. 73, Paul W8TM Don W3FPR sed: If you mean that the red and black housings come apart, put a drop of superglue on the mating surfaces and they should be tight. There is a hole intended for a roll-pin, but often the roll pin comes out and gets into places no metal should be, so if you do use a roll-pin, secure it with a bit of superglue. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi Susan:
The pin inserts BETWEEN the RED and BLACK connector, NOT between the PAIRS of them. If your APP connector separated from the radio too easily, there's an all too good chance that one of the (4) connectors is not fully 'seated' with its mate and is a fraction of an inch ahead of (or behind) the other connector of the pair. Another possibility is that (particularly on the power cable end) one (or both) of the push-in connector contacts has not been fully seated to the point that it has successfully (and completely) slipped over the leaf spring in each of the plastic housings. It MUST LOCK over the front of the leaf spring or it will not allow the 2-connector assembly to seat properly. If you wish, I can send you some illustrations of properly seated APP contacts, but I can't send 'em thru the reflector (which doesn't support file attachments OR embedded images). 73, Tom Hammond N0SS At 12:15 07/25/2010, you wrote: >The power pole connector cable I recd with my k3 has no place for a pin. > >The darned thing keeps disconnecting. > > >HELP > > >Great Grandmaw Susan > >If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're >headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper >W7KFI-mm AFA9SM USSV DHARMA > > >--- On Sun, 7/25/10, Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > From: Jim Brown <[hidden email]> > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] DC Power cable > > To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > > Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 6:41 AM > > On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:13:22 -0700 > > (PDT), ab2tc wrote: > > > > >Where should I look for a top quality connector? > > > > I've converted all of my DC wiring to Power Poles, so I've > > put > > together more than a hundred of these connectors. There are > > three > > sizes of pins that fit the red and black shells used by > > Elecraft. > > The small size is best for wires smaller than #18; the > > middle size > > (most common) works up to #12, the larger size goes up to > > #8 (and > > can be a very snug fit in the shell). I've always bought > > them from > > hamfest vendors, but there are several vendors who > > advertise in QST > > who sell them. They usually come in packs of ten, or ten > > pairs. I've > > never crimped them, always soldered. > > > > Remember that voltage drop is proportional to length, so > > shorter is > > better. > > > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Thats 25 pounds of pull to pull the metal bit out of the plastic bit...
But it should require 3-5 pounds (depending on what connector detent style you have) of force before a mated connection separates. ~Brett (N7MG) On Sun, 2010-07-25 at 13:28 -0400, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Susan, > > That usually means the APP was not assembled properly. Make certain the > blades are fully inserted into the housing. The blades must latch over > the spring fingers that are in the housing and it takes a good push with > a thin screwdriver or other tool to seat properly. When properly > assembled, it takes about a 25 pound pull to disengage them. > If you assembled your K3 from a kit, check the connector on the K3 as > well as the one on the cable - OR just check it anyway, there is always > a chance that a factory assembler did not push hard enough to lock the > blade. > > If you mean that the red and black housings come apart, put a drop of > superglue on the mating surfaces and they should be tight. There is a > hole intended for a roll-pin, but often the roll pin comes out and gets > into places no metal should be, so if you do use a roll-pin, secure it > with a bit of superglue. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > ussv dharma wrote: > > The power pole connector cable I recd with my k3 has no place for a pin. > > > > The darned thing keeps disconnecting. > > > > > > HELP > > > > > > Great Grandmaw Susan > > > > If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm AFA9SM USSV DHARMA > > > > > > --- On Sun, 7/25/10, Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > >> From: Jim Brown <[hidden email]> > >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] DC Power cable > >> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > >> Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 6:41 AM > >> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:13:22 -0700 > >> (PDT), ab2tc wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Where should I look for a top quality connector? > >>> > >> I've converted all of my DC wiring to Power Poles, so I've > >> put > >> together more than a hundred of these connectors. There are > >> three > >> sizes of pins that fit the red and black shells used by > >> Elecraft. > >> The small size is best for wires smaller than #18; the > >> middle size > >> (most common) works up to #12, the larger size goes up to > >> #8 (and > >> can be a very snug fit in the shell). I've always bought > >> them from > >> hamfest vendors, but there are several vendors who > >> advertise in QST > >> who sell them. They usually come in packs of ten, or ten > >> pairs. I've > >> never crimped them, always soldered. > >> > >> Remember that voltage drop is proportional to length, so > >> shorter is > >> better. > >> > >> 73, Jim K9YC > >> > >> > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> > >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Brett,
You are correct, I read the wrong item on the data sheet. But still, there are two of them on the K3 cable, and I just tested a pair. It took oveer 8 pounds of weight to dislodge the connection. The weight of a fully loaded K3 is 8.5 pounds, so you could not quite hold the K3 up with the power cord, but the basic K3/10 should be able to dangle on the power cord without breaking the connection (but, I am certainly not going to try that with MY K3 :-) ). 73, Don W3FPR Brett Howard wrote: > Thats 25 pounds of pull to pull the metal bit out of the plastic bit... > But it should require 3-5 pounds (depending on what connector detent > style you have) of force before a mated connection separates. > > ~Brett (N7MG) > > On Sun, 2010-07-25 at 13:28 -0400, Don Wilhelm wrote: > >> Susan, >> >> That usually means the APP was not assembled properly. Make certain the >> blades are fully inserted into the housing. The blades must latch over >> the spring fingers that are in the housing and it takes a good push with >> a thin screwdriver or other tool to seat properly. When properly >> assembled, it takes about a 25 pound pull to disengage them. >> If you assembled your K3 from a kit, check the connector on the K3 as >> well as the one on the cable - OR just check it anyway, there is always >> a chance that a factory assembler did not push hard enough to lock the >> blade. >> >> If you mean that the red and black housings come apart, put a drop of >> superglue on the mating surfaces and they should be tight. There is a >> hole intended for a roll-pin, but often the roll pin comes out and gets >> into places no metal should be, so if you do use a roll-pin, secure it >> with a bit of superglue. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> ussv dharma wrote: >> >>> The power pole connector cable I recd with my k3 has no place for a pin. >>> >>> The darned thing keeps disconnecting. >>> >>> >>> HELP >>> >>> >>> Great Grandmaw Susan >>> >>> If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm AFA9SM USSV DHARMA >>> >>> >>> --- On Sun, 7/25/10, Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: Jim Brown <[hidden email]> >>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] DC Power cable >>>> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >>>> Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 6:41 AM >>>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:13:22 -0700 >>>> (PDT), ab2tc wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Where should I look for a top quality connector? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I've converted all of my DC wiring to Power Poles, so I've >>>> put >>>> together more than a hundred of these connectors. There are >>>> three >>>> sizes of pins that fit the red and black shells used by >>>> Elecraft. >>>> The small size is best for wires smaller than #18; the >>>> middle size >>>> (most common) works up to #12, the larger size goes up to >>>> #8 (and >>>> can be a very snug fit in the shell). I've always bought >>>> them from >>>> hamfest vendors, but there are several vendors who >>>> advertise in QST >>>> who sell them. They usually come in packs of ten, or ten >>>> pairs. I've >>>> never crimped them, always soldered. >>>> >>>> Remember that voltage drop is proportional to length, so >>>> shorter is >>>> better. >>>> >>>> 73, Jim K9YC >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >>> >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:09:14 -0700
Brett Howard <[hidden email]> wrote: > Thats 25 pounds of pull to pull the metal bit out of the plastic bit... > But it should require 3-5 pounds (depending on what connector detent > style you have) of force before a mated connection separates. > > ~Brett (N7MG) > > On Sun, 2010-07-25 at 13:28 -0400, Don Wilhelm wrote: >> Susan, >> >> That usually means the APP was not assembled properly. Make certain the >> blades are fully inserted into the housing. The blades must latch over >> the spring fingers that are in the housing and it takes a good push with >> a thin screwdriver or other tool to seat properly. When properly >> assembled, it takes about a 25 pound pull to disengage them. >> If you assembled your K3 from a kit, check the connector on the K3 as >> well as the one on the cable - OR just check it anyway, there is always >> a chance that a factory assembler did not push hard enough to lock the >> blade. >> >> If you mean that the red and black housings come apart, put a drop of >> superglue on the mating surfaces and they should be tight. There is a >> hole intended for a roll-pin, but often the roll pin comes out and gets >> into places no metal should be, so if you do use a roll-pin, secure it >> with a bit of superglue. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> ussv dharma wrote: >> > The power pole connector cable I recd with my k3 has no place for a pin. >> > >> > The darned thing keeps disconnecting. >> > >> > >> > HELP >> > >> > >> > Great Grandmaw Susan >> > >> > If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!! Susan Meckley, >>Skipper W7KFI-mm AFA9SM USSV DHARMA >> > >> > >> > --- On Sun, 7/25/10, Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote: >> > >> > >> >> From: Jim Brown <[hidden email]> >> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] DC Power cable >> >> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> >> >> Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 6:41 AM >> >> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:13:22 -0700 >> >> (PDT), ab2tc wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Where should I look for a top quality connector? >> >>> >> >> I've converted all of my DC wiring to Power Poles, so I've >> >> put >> >> together more than a hundred of these connectors. There are >> >> three >> >> sizes of pins that fit the red and black shells used by >> >> Elecraft. >> >> The small size is best for wires smaller than #18; the >> >> middle size >> >> (most common) works up to #12, the larger size goes up to >> >> #8 (and >> >> can be a very snug fit in the shell). I've always bought >> >> them from >> >> hamfest vendors, but there are several vendors who >> >> advertise in QST >> >> who sell them. They usually come in packs of ten, or ten >> >> pairs. I've >> >> never crimped them, always soldered. >> >> >> >> Remember that voltage drop is proportional to length, so >> >> shorter is >> >> better. >> >> >> >> 73, Jim K9YC Jim, Something else that should be noted, and obviously not everyone is PERFECT is that the size of the Wire-connector lug has to generally fit the gauge of wire that your using! I made that mistake for whatever reason and we had to "RE=WORK" all of our power-pole connections within our JEEP! Everything is now great but it's another "lesson learned" because we were in a hurry and trying to do it on the "cheap!" Jim/nn6ee ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Anderson PowerPoles, wire and accessories can also be purchased from www.hamcq73.com, www.NewHamStore.com and www.PowerPoleHQ.com.
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Susan,
I was using a heavy-duty (#10) power cord with power-pole connectors with my K3 and the weight of the wire would pull the connector loose. One of the connectors was pulled off the wire (which was crimped by the mfr and not soldered) so it is in my "to be repaired bin" and I made a lighter power cable (#14) with the 15amp power-pole connector supplied with the K3 kit (since I have only the K3/10). But to ensure it will not be pulled, I tywrap the cable to the back of my radio table which I have lined with ordinary peg board (fiber board with an array of holes for inserting hangers). I just loop the tywrap thru two adjacent holes and tie the cable to the board at several points over to the 13.8v power distribution terminal strip (bolted to the peg board). In fact all my station wiring and permanent coax runs are secured to the peg board. It helps to control the "rats nest" effect. Hope that helps! 73, ED - KL7UW PS: My website is down temporarily but I have photos of the peg board/wiring on there. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:15:48 -0700 (PDT) From: ussv dharma <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] DC Power cable To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>, Jim Brown <[hidden email]> Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 The power pole connector cable I recd with my k3 has no place for a pin. The darned thing keeps disconnecting. HELP Great Grandmaw Susan 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 ====================================== BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 144-QRT*, 432-100w, 1296-QRT*, 3400-fall 2010 DUBUS Magazine USA Rep [hidden email] ====================================== *temp ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I only have two power-pole connected radios (K3 and FT-817). I just
tested the resistance to separating the mated connectors and it sure doesn't take much to disconnect them (certainly could not support the weight of the radio). They are either commercially built cables or ones that I assembled. The ones I built definitely snapped into the shell (extremely hard to extract and requires using a small screwdriver to pry up the metal connector to release). Power-poles do not offer sufficient resistance to disconnecting in my opinion. The professional made cable is plugged into the factory installed connector on the back of the K3. They come apart (disconnect) if I move the radio. The only connectors of this style that I have seen to have a strong connection were on marine HF radios (SEA222) and were physically larger (blue in color). They were rated for 45amp and were a bitch to pull off the radio. But not so these red/black power-poles. This is "exactly" why they are not favored for certain commercial use (never found in aviation). I'll bet not used by military. I will only use them on radio equipment that is subject to being used in different locations and/or require compatibility to other ham radio installations (field day, etc.). I'm sticking to using barrier terminal strips for my permanent wiring and threaded mil-spec connectors on equipment that is subject to movement/vibration/dust-dirt-moisture. 73, Ed my opinion shaped by 45-years experience in mobile two-way radio ----------------------------- Message: 12 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:08:13 -0400 From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] DC Power cable To: Brett Howard <[hidden email]> Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Brett, You are correct, I read the wrong item on the data sheet. But still, there are two of them on the K3 cable, and I just tested a pair. It took oveer 8 pounds of weight to dislodge the connection. The weight of a fully loaded K3 is 8.5 pounds, so you could not quite hold the K3 up with the power cord, but the basic K3/10 should be able to dangle on the power cord without breaking the connection (but, I am certainly not going to try that with MY K3 :-) ). 73, Don W3FPR Brett Howard wrote: > Thats 25 pounds of pull to pull the metal bit out of the plastic bit... > But it should require 3-5 pounds (depending on what connector detent ...snip... > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 ====================================== BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 144-QRT*, 432-100w, 1296-QRT*, 3400-fall 2010 DUBUS Magazine USA Rep [hidden email] ====================================== *temp ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
"power-poles do not offer sufficient resistance to disconnecting in my
opinion. The professional made cable is plugged into the factory installed connector on the back of the K3. They come apart (disconnect) if I move the radio. " I use a small tie wrap that goes through the roll pin holes in both connectors and holds them together until I cut the tie wrap. Quick easy and fool proof ( and I should know about the fool part). Dan AB3EN Dan AB3EN |
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Let's end this thread as it is a repeat of the periodic APP thread on
this list and others. (Sort of like the CW/Non-CW tes threads etc. ;-) Searching the list archives for the word 'APP' at http://www.elecraft.com/elist.html will yield a plethora of APP information. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft List Modulator --- On 7/26/2010 12:38 PM, AB3EN wrote: > "power-poles do not offer sufficient resistance to disconnecting in my > opinion. The professional made cable is plugged into the factory > installed connector on the back of the K3. They come apart > (disconnect) if I move the radio. " > > I use a small tie wrap that goes through the roll pin holes in both > connectors and holds them together until I cut the tie wrap. Quick easy and > fool proof ( and I should know about the fool part). > Dan AB3EN > > > ----- > > Dan AB3EN > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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