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w0mu

K3-Data mode RTTY

I keep setting the Data MD to 45 baud fsk and somehow the radio has gone
back to 75 baud a couple of times on it's own. Anyone else seen this?
Using MMTTY 1.68.

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Bob Wolbert, K6XX

Re: K3-Data mode RTTY

This parameter is saved separately by band. Could that be the problem?

73 de Bob, K6XX

On 4/16/2012 1:58 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
> I keep setting the Data MD to 45 baud fsk and somehow the radio has gone
> back to 75 baud a couple of times on it's own. Anyone else seen this?
> Using MMTTY 1.68.
>
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Doug Joyce

Re: K3-Data mode RTTY

In reply to this post by w0mu

Hi Mike: Yes a number of times. (four times in the rectnt ARRL RU) I've
also have a problem where the bandwidths & filters that I set up in Norm1
and Norm2 don't stick. I brought both of these to the attention of K3
Support and they advised that Wayne is aware of the problem and its on his
list.

73, Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 4:58 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3-Data mode RTTY

>I keep setting the Data MD to 45 baud fsk and somehow the radio has gone
> back to 75 baud a couple of times on it's own. Anyone else seen this?
> Using MMTTY 1.68.
>
> --
> Mike W0MU
>
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>
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Doug Joyce

Re: K3-Data mode RTTY

In reply to this post by Bob Wolbert, K6XX

Bob: I don't think so. In my case it happens while on the same band and
doesn't seem to be band dependent.

73, Doug VE3MV

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Wolbert, K6XX" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-Data mode RTTY

>
>
>
> This parameter is saved separately by band. Could that be the problem?
>
> 73 de Bob, K6XX
>
> On 4/16/2012 1:58 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
>> I keep setting the Data MD to 45 baud fsk and somehow the radio has gone
>> back to 75 baud a couple of times on it's own. Anyone else seen this?
>> Using MMTTY 1.68.
>>
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Ed Muns, W0YK

Re: K3-Data mode RTTY

In reply to this post by Bob Wolbert, K6XX

Yes, that is usually the problem. It happens to me all the time and I still
sometimes forget why!

73,
Ed - W0YK
-------------------------
Ed Muns
www.w0yk.com

Bob K6XX replied:
> This parameter is saved separately by band. Could that be the problem?

> On 4/16/2012 1:58 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
> > I keep setting the Data MD to 45 baud fsk and somehow the radio has
> > gone back to 75 baud a couple of times on it's own. Anyone
> else seen this?

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w0mu

Re: K3-Data mode RTTY

That could be it but this rig was used at J6 and I made a bunch of RTTY
contacts from down there and I doubt that they were made at 75 baud but
hey who knows...

Mike W0MU

W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net

On 4/16/2012 7:56 PM, Ed Muns wrote:

> Yes, that is usually the problem. It happens to me all the time and I still
> sometimes forget why!
>
> 73,
> Ed - W0YK
> -------------------------
> Ed Muns
> www.w0yk.com
>
>
>
> Bob K6XX replied:
>> This parameter is saved separately by band. Could that be the problem?
>> On 4/16/2012 1:58 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
>>> I keep setting the Data MD to 45 baud fsk and somehow the radio has
>>> gone back to 75 baud a couple of times on it's own. Anyone
>> else seen this?
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w0mu

Re: K3-Data mode RTTY

In reply to this post by Doug Joyce

Ok...so maybe I am not going crazy!

Unfortunately without pushing the button there is no way to know what
baud rate it is set for.

I am sure they will figure this out.

Mike W0MU

W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net

On 4/16/2012 4:25 PM, D Joyce wrote:

> Hi Mike: Yes a number of times. (four times in the rectnt ARRL RU)
> I've also have a problem where the bandwidths & filters that I set up
> in Norm1 and Norm2 don't stick. I brought both of these to the
> attention of K3 Support and they advised that Wayne is aware of the
> problem and its on his list.
>
> 73, Doug
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 4:58 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3-Data mode RTTY
>
>
>> I keep setting the Data MD to 45 baud fsk and somehow the radio has gone
>> back to 75 baud a couple of times on it's own. Anyone else seen this?
>> Using MMTTY 1.68.
>>
>> --
>> Mike W0MU
>>
>> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>>
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Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2

Re: K3-Data mode RTTY

In reply to this post by w0mu

Mike,

Were you using the K3's internal RTTY encoder/decoder? If you were
using software on a computer, the baud rate setting on the K3 is
irrelevant.

73,

~iain / N6ML

PS. Tnx agn for the J6 QSOs :)

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:19 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <[hidden email]> wrote:

> That could be it but this rig was used at J6 and I made a bunch of RTTY
> contacts from down there and I doubt that they were made at 75 baud but
> hey who knows...
>
> Mike W0MU
>
> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>
>
> On 4/16/2012 7:56 PM, Ed Muns wrote:
>> Yes, that is usually the problem. It happens to me all the time and I still
>> sometimes forget why!
>>
>> 73,
>> Ed - W0YK
>> -------------------------
>> Ed Muns
>> www.w0yk.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob K6XX replied:
>>> This parameter is saved separately by band. Could that be the problem?
>>> On 4/16/2012 1:58 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
>>>> I keep setting the Data MD to 45 baud fsk and somehow the radio has
>>>> gone back to 75 baud a couple of times on it's own. Anyone
>>> else seen this?
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w0mu

Re: K3-Data mode RTTY

For FSK?

Mike W0MU

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On 4/16/2012 9:26 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Were you using the K3's internal RTTY encoder/decoder? If you were
> using software on a computer, the baud rate setting on the K3 is
> irrelevant.
>
> 73,
>
> ~iain / N6ML
>
>
> PS. Tnx agn for the J6 QSOs :)
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:19 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett<[hidden email]> wrote:
>> That could be it but this rig was used at J6 and I made a bunch of RTTY
>> contacts from down there and I doubt that they were made at 75 baud but
>> hey who knows...
>>
>> Mike W0MU
>>
>> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>>
>>
>> On 4/16/2012 7:56 PM, Ed Muns wrote:
>>> Yes, that is usually the problem. It happens to me all the time and I still
>>> sometimes forget why!
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Ed - W0YK
>>> -------------------------
>>> Ed Muns
>>> www.w0yk.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob K6XX replied:
>>>> This parameter is saved separately by band. Could that be the problem?
>>>> On 4/16/2012 1:58 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
>>>>> I keep setting the Data MD to 45 baud fsk and somehow the radio has
>>>>> gone back to 75 baud a couple of times on it's own. Anyone
>>>> else seen this?
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Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2

Re: K3-Data mode RTTY

Yes. When you use a computer to generate FSK, the timing is generated
at the the computer - it just tells the K3 when to shift frequency...
unless the software sends commands containing the text to be sent. The
K3 Utility can do that (IIRC), but most common RTTY software doesn't.

~iain / N6ML

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:28 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <[hidden email]> wrote:

> For FSK?
>
>
> Mike W0MU
>
> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>
>
> On 4/16/2012 9:26 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote:
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Were you using the K3's internal RTTY encoder/decoder? If you were
>> using software on a computer, the baud rate setting on the K3 is
>> irrelevant.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ~iain / N6ML
>>
>>
>> PS. Tnx agn for the J6 QSOs :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:19 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett<[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> That could be it but this rig was used at J6 and I made a bunch of RTTY
>>> contacts from down there and I doubt that they were made at 75 baud but
>>> hey who knows...
>>>
>>> Mike W0MU
>>>
>>> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/16/2012 7:56 PM, Ed Muns wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that is usually the problem. It happens to me all the time and I
>>>> still
>>>> sometimes forget why!
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Ed - W0YK
>>>> -------------------------
>>>> Ed Muns
>>>> www.w0yk.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob K6XX replied:
>>>>>
>>>>> This parameter is saved separately by band. Could that be the problem?
>>>>> On 4/16/2012 1:58 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I keep setting the Data MD to 45 baud fsk and somehow the radio has
>>>>>> gone back to 75 baud a couple of times on it's own. Anyone
>>>>>
>>>>> else seen this?
>>>>
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: K3-Data mode RTTY

In reply to this post by w0mu

It doesn't matter unless you are sending RTTY with the paddles (or
software that uses the "KY" commands). If you are using a normal
FSK or AFSK interface from the computer the data rate is determined
by the computer UART or sound card.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 4/16/2012 11:21 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:

> Ok...so maybe I am not going crazy!
>
> Unfortunately without pushing the button there is no way to know what
> baud rate it is set for.
>
> I am sure they will figure this out.
>
> Mike W0MU
>
> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>
>
> On 4/16/2012 4:25 PM, D Joyce wrote:
>> Hi Mike: Yes a number of times. (four times in the rectnt ARRL RU)
>> I've also have a problem where the bandwidths& filters that I set up
>> in Norm1 and Norm2 don't stick. I brought both of these to the
>> attention of K3 Support and they advised that Wayne is aware of the
>> problem and its on his list.
>>
>> 73, Doug
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "W0MU Mike Fatchett"<[hidden email]>
>> To:<[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 4:58 PM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3-Data mode RTTY
>>
>>
>>> I keep setting the Data MD to 45 baud fsk and somehow the radio has gone
>>> back to 75 baud a couple of times on it's own. Anyone else seen this?
>>> Using MMTTY 1.68.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike W0MU
>>>
>>> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>>>
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w0mu

Re: K3-Data mode RTTY

That makes sense. I am using a MK II and MMTTY so I guess it doesn't
matter. I will have to remember to make sure they are set to 45 baud if
I use the paddles.

Mike W0MU

W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net

On 4/16/2012 9:38 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

>
> It doesn't matter unless you are sending RTTY with the paddles (or
> software that uses the "KY" commands). If you are using a normal
> FSK or AFSK interface from the computer the data rate is determined
> by the computer UART or sound card.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 4/16/2012 11:21 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
>> Ok...so maybe I am not going crazy!
>>
>> Unfortunately without pushing the button there is no way to know what
>> baud rate it is set for.
>>
>> I am sure they will figure this out.
>>
>> Mike W0MU
>>
>> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>>
>>
>> On 4/16/2012 4:25 PM, D Joyce wrote:
>>> Hi Mike: Yes a number of times. (four times in the rectnt ARRL RU)
>>> I've also have a problem where the bandwidths& filters that I set up
>>> in Norm1 and Norm2 don't stick. I brought both of these to the
>>> attention of K3 Support and they advised that Wayne is aware of the
>>> problem and its on his list.
>>>
>>> 73, Doug
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "W0MU Mike Fatchett"<[hidden email]>
>>> To:<[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 4:58 PM
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3-Data mode RTTY
>>>
>>>
>>>> I keep setting the Data MD to 45 baud fsk and somehow the radio has
>>>> gone
>>>> back to 75 baud a couple of times on it's own. Anyone else seen this?
>>>> Using MMTTY 1.68.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mike W0MU
>>>>
>>>> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>>>>
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: Uploading Firmware (again) [was K3-Data mode RTTY]

In reply to this post by Joe Subich, W4TV-4

microHAM "keyer" interfaces (CW Keyer, Digikeyer, DigiKeyer II,
microKEYER, microKEYER II, and MK2R/MK2R+) as well as Station Master
and Station Master Deluxe *do not support* firmware uploading in
*any* transceiver.

It *may* be possible to upload to the K3 by setting Router's "Radio"
option to "no radio (mode selected manually)" and powering the keyer
from a dedicated supply. However, microHAM recommends using a true
RS-232 port or KUSB and accepts no responsibility if the keyer is
used for uploading firmware.

I use RS-232 switches and a "real" serial port for updating all of
my Elecraft equipment.

73,

... Joe Subich, W4TV
microHAM America, LLC.
http://www.microHAM-USA.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM

On 4/17/2012 8:35 AM, Jack Brabham wrote:

> Joe,
>
> I am trying, unsuccessfully, to do a K3 download via my microKeyer 2.
> I'm using a profile with everything off except the K3 that worked last
> time I did one of these downloads a year or 2 ago.
>
> I get the usual K3 stuck in "MCU load" and the K3 utility cycling thru
> various speeds trying to connect.
>
> Any suggestions? I'm running Win7 64 and do not have a serial port on my
> PC.
>
> 73 Jack KZ5A
>

Dick Dievendorff

Re: Uploading Firmware (again) [was K3-Data mode RTTY]

Jack: there is a K3 Utility Help troubleshooting page on MCU load failures. It has a step by step recovery procedure. Joe has it right, you will need to remove the microHAM router from the chain for the recovery.

I use ABCD switches to connect one KUSB to a variety of Elecraft products and another to connect a K3 to various interface products for testing.

73 de Dick, K6KR

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:35 AM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> microHAM "keyer" interfaces (CW Keyer, Digikeyer, DigiKeyer II,
> microKEYER, microKEYER II, and MK2R/MK2R+) as well as Station Master
> and Station Master Deluxe *do not support* firmware uploading in
> *any* transceiver.
>
> It *may* be possible to upload to the K3 by setting Router's "Radio"
> option to "no radio (mode selected manually)" and powering the keyer
> from a dedicated supply. However, microHAM recommends using a true
> RS-232 port or KUSB and accepts no responsibility if the keyer is
> used for uploading firmware.
>
> I use RS-232 switches and a "real" serial port for updating all of
> my Elecraft equipment.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe Subich, W4TV
> microHAM America, LLC.
> http://www.microHAM-USA.com
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM
>
>
> On 4/17/2012 8:35 AM, Jack Brabham wrote:
>> Joe,
>>
>> I am trying, unsuccessfully, to do a K3 download via my microKeyer 2.
>> I'm using a profile with everything off except the K3 that worked last
>> time I did one of these downloads a year or 2 ago.
>>
>> I get the usual K3 stuck in "MCU load" and the K3 utility cycling thru
>> various speeds trying to connect.
>>
>> Any suggestions? I'm running Win7 64 and do not have a serial port on my
>> PC.
>>
>> 73 Jack KZ5A
>>
>
>
>
>
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