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Richard Fjeld

K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list

You have some excellent menu options in the K3, even a built-in 2-tone generator for checking SSB. There is the SW Tone option to aid visually impaired people, and others, know when something is turned on, or off, by it's tones. Also, I understand there is Elecraft software that speaks from a computer as controls are used. I think your f/w and s/w are excellent.

Some of the hams I round-table with are up in the years, and struggle to hear. I use a headset mike which makes no mechanical sound when I release the remote PTT. They can't tell when I release it unless I say 'over'. I optioned CW+SSB, but I often forget to tap the paddle when I'm done talking.

Knowing I run a K3, I have been asked if it could be optioned to beep when the PTT is released.

For your consideration, and thanks.

Richard Fjeld, NØCE
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Gary Gregory

Re: K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list

*Oh no please, no more Roger Beeps...my hearing get's rattled with the
sharp tone generated by some of these Rogef Beeps heard on 20M lately.

There is enough beeps, squeeks, rattles from clunky microphones, over
driven compression, key clicks and the list goes on. Lets not add more
noises to the bands.

Placing a sign on the radio with "OVER" in bold type could serve as a
reminder for those of us who forget at times to end an over in an
appropriate way and that creates no additional noise.

Using headphones here all the time I have noticed when working weak signals
that when a Roger Beep is used it produces a sharp spike in the audio which
is distracting and in my case very annoying.

I would strongly voice my opposition to such an addition if it were to be
considered.

YMMV

Gary
*
On 11 May 2012 06:02, Richard Fjeld <[hidden email]> wrote:

> You have some excellent menu options in the K3, even a built-in 2-tone
> generator for checking SSB. There is the SW Tone option to aid visually
> impaired people, and others, know when something is turned on, or off, by
> it's tones. Also, I understand there is Elecraft software that speaks from
> a computer as controls are used. I think your f/w and s/w are excellent.
>
> Some of the hams I round-table with are up in the years, and struggle to
> hear. I use a headset mike which makes no mechanical sound when I release
> the remote PTT. They can't tell when I release it unless I say 'over'. I
> optioned CW+SSB, but I often forget to tap the paddle when I'm done talking.
>
> Knowing I run a K3, I have been asked if it could be optioned to beep when
> the PTT is released.
>
> For your consideration, and thanks.
>
> Richard Fjeld, NØCE
> [hidden email]
> I'd rather be learning.
>
>
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David Gilbert

Re: K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list

In reply to this post by Richard Fjeld

You mean your K3 is the only rig in your round table without an
irritating "roger-beep"?

Dave AB7E

On 5/10/2012 1:02 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:

> You have some excellent menu options in the K3, even a built-in 2-tone generator for checking SSB. There is the SW Tone option to aid visually impaired people, and others, know when something is turned on, or off, by it's tones. Also, I understand there is Elecraft software that speaks from a computer as controls are used. I think your f/w and s/w are excellent.
>
> Some of the hams I round-table with are up in the years, and struggle to hear. I use a headset mike which makes no mechanical sound when I release the remote PTT. They can't tell when I release it unless I say 'over'. I optioned CW+SSB, but I often forget to tap the paddle when I'm done talking.
>
> Knowing I run a K3, I have been asked if it could be optioned to beep when the PTT is released.
>
> For your consideration, and thanks.
>
> Richard Fjeld, NØCE
> [hidden email]
> I'd rather be learning.
>

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Scott Manthe-2

Re: K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list

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Maybe the Elecraft crew could offer an optional "squelch tail" sound
when the K3 PTT is released. This would have the dual effect of letting
the elderly and hearing impaired know when someone is done transmitting
while giving many newer ops a more comforting and familiar operating
experience by emulating the sound of a repeater unkeying...

73,
Scott, N9AA

On 5/10/12 4:02 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:

Bob K6UJ

Re: K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list

In reply to this post by Gary Gregory

I'm with Gary, no beeps please, I wear hearing aids and am sensitive to
many of the things Gary described. They accent some
of that stuff which is aggravating. In evening ragchews on
75 we use "over" for situations where we have hard of hearing
situations in the QSO's. Had a funny one about a month ago.
I turned it over to one of the old timers and he didnt respond so
we figured he went QRT. Later he checked back in and said he
dozed off. :-)

Bob
K6UJ

On May 10, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:

> *Oh no please, no more Roger Beeps...my hearing get's rattled with the
> sharp tone generated by some of these Rogef Beeps heard on 20M lately.
>
> There is enough beeps, squeeks, rattles from clunky microphones, over
> driven compression, key clicks and the list goes on. Lets not add more
> noises to the bands.
>
> Placing a sign on the radio with "OVER" in bold type could serve as a
> reminder for those of us who forget at times to end an over in an
> appropriate way and that creates no additional noise.
>
> Using headphones here all the time I have noticed when working weak signals
> that when a Roger Beep is used it produces a sharp spike in the audio which
> is distracting and in my case very annoying.
>
> I would strongly voice my opposition to such an addition if it were to be
> considered.
>
> YMMV
>
> Gary
> *
> On 11 May 2012 06:02, Richard Fjeld <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> You have some excellent menu options in the K3, even a built-in 2-tone
>> generator for checking SSB. There is the SW Tone option to aid visually
>> impaired people, and others, know when something is turned on, or off, by
>> it's tones. Also, I understand there is Elecraft software that speaks from
>> a computer as controls are used. I think your f/w and s/w are excellent.
>>
>> Some of the hams I round-table with are up in the years, and struggle to
>> hear. I use a headset mike which makes no mechanical sound when I release
>> the remote PTT. They can't tell when I release it unless I say 'over'. I
>> optioned CW+SSB, but I often forget to tap the paddle when I'm done talking.
>>
>> Knowing I run a K3, I have been asked if it could be optioned to beep when
>> the PTT is released.
>>
>> For your consideration, and thanks.
>>
>> Richard Fjeld, NØCE
>> [hidden email]
>> I'd rather be learning.
>>
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
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>
>
>
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> VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile
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Tony Estep

Re: K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Bob K6UJ <[hidden email]> wrote:

> .... no beeps please..

==========
I liked the squelch tail idea. And maybe the K3
could periodically interrupt your transmission with a synthesized playback
of your call and a cheerful announcement like "Good Morning."

Tony KT0NY

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Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ

Re: K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list [End of Thread]

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In reply to this post by Bob K6UJ

We answered this last time it came up - No 'Roger Beeps' in the K3.

Let's end the thread at this time.

73,

Eric
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On 5/10/2012 3:29 PM, Bob K6UJ wrote:
> I'm with Gary, no beeps please,
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Gary Gregory

Re: K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list

In reply to this post by Scott Manthe-2

*Scott,

NO.

I like to think I CAN operate a radio without IT telling me WHAT to do or
what I have done...:-)

It's a bit like some mic manufacturers telling you you can't have a locking
PTT switch because you may forget it's on.

Good grief, let us at least THINK we are in control of both the radio AND
our faculties.

73's
Gary
*
On 11 May 2012 08:12, Scott Manthe <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Maybe the Elecraft crew could offer an optional "squelch tail" sound
> when the K3 PTT is released. This would have the dual effect of letting
> the elderly and hearing impaired know when someone is done transmitting
> while giving many newer ops a more comforting and familiar operating
> experience by emulating the sound of a repeater unkeying...
>
> 73,
> Scott, N9AA
>
>
> On 5/10/12 4:02 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
> > You have some excellent menu options in the K3, even a built-in 2-tone
> generator for checking SSB. There is the SW Tone option to aid visually
> impaired people, and others, know when something is turned on, or off, by
> it's tones. Also, I understand there is Elecraft software that speaks from
> a computer as controls are used. I think your f/w and s/w are excellent.
> >
> > Some of the hams I round-table with are up in the years, and struggle to
> hear. I use a headset mike which makes no mechanical sound when I release
> the remote PTT. They can't tell when I release it unless I say 'over'. I
> optioned CW+SSB, but I often forget to tap the paddle when I'm done talking.
> >
> > Knowing I run a K3, I have been asked if it could be optioned to beep
> when the PTT is released.
> >
> > For your consideration, and thanks.
> >
> > Richard Fjeld, NØCE
> > [hidden email]
> > I'd rather be learning.
> >
> >
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Scott Manthe-2

Re: K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list [End of Thread]

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Roger, that! ;)

73,
Scott, N9AA

On 5/10/12 8:10 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

> We answered this last time it came up - No 'Roger Beeps' in the K3.
>
> Let's end the thread at this time.
>
> 73,
>
> Eric
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>
> On 5/10/2012 3:29 PM, Bob K6UJ wrote:
>> I'm with Gary, no beeps please,

Richard Fjeld

Re: K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list

In reply to this post by Gary Gregory

That's odd, I've never heard one on HF. Been a ham since the 70's. And, you have never been a participant in our round-tables. So if we were to use one, it should not bother you. I'm glad you are not opinionated.
73,
Rich

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From: Gary Gregory
To: Richard Fjeld
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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list

Oh no please, no more Roger Beeps...my hearing get's rattled with the sharp tone generated by some of these Rogef Beeps heard on 20M lately.

There is enough beeps, squeeks, rattles from clunky microphones, over driven compression, key clicks and the list goes on. Lets not add more noises to the bands.

Placing a sign on the radio with "OVER" in bold type could serve as a reminder for those of us who forget at times to end an over in an appropriate way and that creates no additional noise.

Using headphones here all the time I have noticed when working weak signals that when a Roger Beep is used it produces a sharp spike in the audio which is distracting and in my case very annoying.

I would strongly voice my opposition to such an addition if it were to be considered.

YMMV

Gary

On 11 May 2012 06:02, Richard Fjeld <[hidden email]> wrote:

You have some excellent menu options in the K3, even a built-in 2-tone generator for checking SSB. There is the SW Tone option to aid visually impaired people, and others, know when something is turned on, or off, by it's tones. Also, I understand there is Elecraft software that speaks from a computer as controls are used. I think your f/w and s/w are excellent.

Some of the hams I round-table with are up in the years, and struggle to hear. I use a headset mike which makes no mechanical sound when I release the remote PTT. They can't tell when I release it unless I say 'over'. I optioned CW+SSB, but I often forget to tap the paddle when I'm done talking.

Knowing I run a K3, I have been asked if it could be optioned to beep when the PTT is released.

For your consideration, and thanks.

Richard Fjeld, NØCE
[hidden email]
I'd rather be learning.

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