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DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL

K3 F/W versions...just curious

So...recently we've seen two F/W MCU version effectively release "on
top" of each other.

MCU 1.78 cites:

SPOT switch is now usable in the REF CAL menu entry.

while we see that

MCU 1.77 and DSP 1.58 impact

SSB TX power overshoot corrected.

DUAL-PASSBAND CW now working correctly (was acting like a
single-BW 150-Hz filter).

So...my very naive question is....how can "fixing" (enhancing) SSB TX
overshoot and Dual Psbd CW have (apparently) inadvertently defeated
the SPOT function?

Just curious....
de Doug KR2Q
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Stewart Baker

Re: K3 F/W versions...just curious

I think that now "fixing" the SPOT function has broken the DPB
again.
Am I the only one that views firmware updates with caution ?

I now go round checking as many functions as I can to find what
got broke in the latest fix.

I still have the funny which someone else must have seen of
loosing RX after TX using the ALT1 DSP setting.

73
Stewart G3RXQ
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:31:40 -0400, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:
> So...recently we've seen two F/W MCU version effectively release
"on

> top" of each other.
>
>
> MCU 1.78 cites:
>
> SPOT switch is now usable in the REF CAL menu entry.
>
> while we see that
>
> MCU 1.77 and DSP 1.58 impact
>
> SSB TX power overshoot corrected.
>
> DUAL-PASSBAND CW now working correctly (was acting like a
> single-BW 150-Hz filter).
>
> So...my very naive question is....how can "fixing" (enhancing)

SSB TX
> overshoot and Dual Psbd CW have (apparently) inadvertently
defeated

> the SPOT function?
>
>
> Just curious....
> de Doug KR2Q
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Stewart Baker

Re: K3 F/W versions...just curious

In reply to this post by DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:31:40 -0400, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:
> So...recently we've seen two F/W MCU version effectively release
"on

SSB TX
> overshoot and Dual Psbd CW have (apparently) inadvertently
defeated

M0XDF

Re: K3 F/W versions...just curious

In reply to this post by Stewart Baker

I let others
'go round checking as many functions as I can to find what got broke
in the latest fix'
:-)
I tend to wait a couple of days before implimneting and I keep my
previous working release, then I can go back to it if I find problems.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174

--
Once upon a time a man whose axe was missing suspected his neighbour's
son.
The boy walked like a thief, looked like a thief, and spoke like a
thief.
But the man found his axe while digging in the valley, and the next
time he
saw his neighbour's son, the boy walked, looked and spoke like any other
child. -Lao-tzu, philosopher (6th century BCE)

On 22 Mar 2008, at 08:18, Stewart Baker wrote:

> I think that now "fixing" the SPOT function has broken the DPB
> again.
> Am I the only one that views firmware updates with caution ?
>
> I now go round checking as many functions as I can to find what
> got broke in the latest fix.
>
> I still have the funny which someone else must have seen of
> loosing RX after TX using the ALT1 DSP setting.
>
> 73
> Stewart G3RXQ
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:31:40 -0400, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:

David Pratt-2

Re: K3 F/W versions...just curious

In a recent message, "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]>
wrote ...
--
> Once upon a time a man whose axe was missing suspected his neighbour's
> son. The boy walked like a thief, looked like a thief, and spoke like
> a thief. But the man found his axe while digging in the valley, and
> the next time he saw his neighbour's son, the boy walked, looked and
> spoke like any other child. -Lao-tzu, philosopher (6th century BCE)

I fail to understand what this has to do with the K3, let alone curious
F/W versions! Are we not asked to remove unnecessary quotes and
information from the signature block?

--
David G4DMP
Leeds, England, UK
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M0XDF

Re: K3 F/W versions...just curious

Are we?
I believe we are asked to remove unnecessary quotes of previous posts
on the same subject - ie, don't include reams of mail trail. I have
had a number of people comment privately from this list that they
enjoy the signature at the end of my mails, you are the first to
complain (after I've been doing it for a year). I agree that one is
rather long, but it's picked randomly.
I would have re-read the usage policy, but can't find a copy, so
CC'ing Eric.

Eric, could I ask you put a link to the reflector policy somewhere on
the reflector page please (also point me at one to read).
And also, please comment on my habit of including a 'quote of the day'
in my mails, if you consider it unreasonable, I'll stop (I could go
through and remove the longer ones from the possible list the client
picks from).

Finally, the signature below was picked at random by my mail client ....
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
--
I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but
I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
- Robert McCloskey, State Department spokesman (attributed)

On 22 Mar 2008, at 10:55, David Pratt wrote:

> In a recent message, "David Ferrington, M0XDF"
> <[hidden email]> wrote ...
> --
> > Once upon a time a man whose axe was missing suspected his
> neighbour's
> > son. The boy walked like a thief, looked like a thief, and spoke
> like
> > a thief. But the man found his axe while digging in the valley, and
> > the next time he saw his neighbour's son, the boy walked, looked
> and
> > spoke like any other child. -Lao-tzu, philosopher (6th century BCE)
>
> I fail to understand what this has to do with the K3, let alone
> curious F/W versions! Are we not asked to remove unnecessary quotes
> and information from the signature block?
> David G4DMP
> Leeds, England, UK

Jim Cox

Re: K3 F/W versions...just curious

I prefer you leave off anything in a message to me that is not related to an
Elecraft.
That is the purpose of the reflector. Jim K4JAF

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]>
To: "David Pratt" <[hidden email]>
Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>; "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ,
Elecraft" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 6:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 F/W versions...just curious

> Are we?
> I believe we are asked to remove unnecessary quotes of previous posts on
> the same subject - ie, don't include reams of mail trail. I have had a
> number of people comment privately from this list that they enjoy the
> signature at the end of my mails, you are the first to complain (after
> I've been doing it for a year). I agree that one is rather long, but it's
> picked randomly.
> I would have re-read the usage policy, but can't find a copy, so CC'ing
> Eric.
>
> Eric, could I ask you put a link to the reflector policy somewhere on the
> reflector page please (also point me at one to read).
> And also, please comment on my habit of including a 'quote of the day' in
> my mails, if you consider it unreasonable, I'll stop (I could go through
> and remove the longer ones from the possible list the client picks from).
>
> Finally, the signature below was picked at random by my mail client ....
> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
> --
> I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I
> am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
> - Robert McCloskey, State Department spokesman (attributed)
>
> On 22 Mar 2008, at 10:55, David Pratt wrote:
>
>> In a recent message, "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]>
>> wrote ...
>> --
>> > Once upon a time a man whose axe was missing suspected his
>> neighbour's
>> > son. The boy walked like a thief, looked like a thief, and spoke
>> like
>> > a thief. But the man found his axe while digging in the valley, and
>> > the next time he saw his neighbour's son, the boy walked, looked
>> and
>> > spoke like any other child. -Lao-tzu, philosopher (6th century BCE)
>>
>> I fail to understand what this has to do with the K3, let alone curious
>> F/W versions! Are we not asked to remove unnecessary quotes and
>> information from the signature block?
>> David G4DMP
>> Leeds, England, UK
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Ken Kopp-3

OT - Signatures & quotes

In reply to this post by M0XDF

I enjoy the quotes, sayings, etc ... I'd miss 'em.

I've even "stolen" several ...

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Trevor Smithers

Re: OT - Signatures & quotes

>'quote of the day'

How about 5/6 line spaces between the end of your reply and the start of the quote. That way the quote
doesn't get mixed up with the message and can be ignored.

Personally I find the addition annoying but others obviously like them.

73 to all
Trevor G0KTN
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Thom LaCosta-2

Re: OT - Signatures & quotes

At 12:46 PM 3/22/2008, Trevor Smithers wrote:
> >'quote of the day'
>
>How about 5/6 line spaces between the end of your reply and the
>start of the quote. That way the quote
>doesn't get mixed up with the message and can be ignored.

If a sig line is considered a waste of bandwidth, why add more waste
with blank lines?

One guideline that has been used for years is located at
http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html Netiquette Guidelines

What seems to be acceptable netiquette for signature lines is
If you include a signature keep it short. Rule of thumb is no longer
than 4 lines. Remember that many people pay for connectivity by the
minute, and the longer your message is, the more they pay.

Thom k3hrn

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George Victor-2

Re: K3 F/W versions...just curious

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On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Jim Cox <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I prefer you leave off anything in a message to me that is not related to an
> Elecraft.

Yeah, like: Building Home Theaters Like The Pros.
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