K3 FT8 Problem VP6D
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I'm not able to decode any transmissions from VP6D but can decode
transmissions of those calling VP6D. I have limited experience with FT8 but have been successful before. Current version: 1.9.1. Getting red/yellow blobs (love that term) where hounds are calling. Have read/re-read Don's job aid, Cady's book, and the several WSJT-X resources. Hound mode is checked. Green bar between 30-38. Rx All Freqs checked. So, is it simply propagation between my QTH (Atlanta) and VP6D? Is it my modest antenna? Or is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? Listening and looking at the on 17m at the time of this message. Many are calling but I have yet to see a message confirming a QSO. Any suggestions greatly appreciated! -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I worked them. Like you, I heard many “hounds” and no VP6 for quite a while. Then suddenly, there they were, responding. I think it’s propagation. Keep calling.
73 > On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:00 AM, engineercm <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I'm not able to decode any transmissions from VP6D but can decode > transmissions of those calling VP6D. > > I have limited experience with FT8 but have been successful before. Current > version: 1.9.1. Getting red/yellow blobs (love that term) where hounds are > calling. Have read/re-read Don's job aid, Cady's book, and the several > WSJT-X resources. Hound mode is checked. Green bar between 30-38. Rx All > Freqs checked. > > So, is it simply propagation between my QTH (Atlanta) and VP6D? Is it my > modest antenna? Or is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? > Listening and looking at the on 17m at the time of this message. Many are > calling but I have yet to see a message confirming a QSO. > > Any suggestions greatly appreciated! > Carl Yaffey K8NU Recording studio. [hidden email] 614 268 6353, Columbus OH http://www.carl-yaffey.com http://www.grassahol.com http://www.bluesswing.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Same intermittent problem here. I finally found that the ‘Decode only 77 bit messages’ box seems to be checked by default when you go to fox/hound mode in WSJT-X V 2.0.0 RC3 … when it is ‘unchecked’ VP6D’s transmissions will suddenly be decoded …. BUT that unchecked box cannot be saved … the next time you launch and go in fox hound mode the box seems to be checked again by default …. So when decoding of VP6D transmissions seems to stop … go to advanced settings and uncheck that box and the messages will reappear … it is obviously a bug that needs to be fixed in the software …. And apparently something different that VP6D seems to be doing with its transmitted messages ???
Don, N5LZ Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Carl Yaffey Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 8:27 AM To: engineercm Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 FT8 Problem VP6D I worked them. Like you, I heard many “hounds” and no VP6 for quite a while. Then suddenly, there they were, responding. I think it’s propagation. Keep calling. 73 > On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:00 AM, engineercm <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I'm not able to decode any transmissions from VP6D but can decode > transmissions of those calling VP6D. > > I have limited experience with FT8 but have been successful before. Current > version: 1.9.1. Getting red/yellow blobs (love that term) where hounds are > calling. Have read/re-read Don's job aid, Cady's book, and the several > WSJT-X resources. Hound mode is checked. Green bar between 30-38. Rx All > Freqs checked. > > So, is it simply propagation between my QTH (Atlanta) and VP6D? Is it my > modest antenna? Or is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? > Listening and looking at the on 17m at the time of this message. Many are > calling but I have yet to see a message confirming a QSO. > > Any suggestions greatly appreciated! > Carl Yaffey K8NU Recording studio. [hidden email] 614 268 6353, Columbus OH http://www.carl-yaffey.com http://www.grassahol.com http://www.bluesswing.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Depends on which version of WSJT-X being used. For V1.9.1 the 77 bit
message does not apply. For V2.0.0 RC3 it does apply. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 10/30/2018 10:22 AM, Don Butler wrote: > Same intermittent problem here. I finally found that the ‘Decode only 77 bit messages’ box seems to be checked by default when you go to fox/hound mode in WSJT-X V 2.0.0 RC3 … when it is ‘unchecked’ VP6D’s transmissions will suddenly be decoded …. BUT that unchecked box cannot be saved … the next time you launch and go in fox hound mode the box seems to be checked again by default …. So when decoding of VP6D transmissions seems to stop … go to advanced settings and uncheck that box and the messages will reappear … it is obviously a bug that needs to be fixed in the software …. And apparently something different that VP6D seems to be doing with its transmitted messages ??? > > Don, N5LZ > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Carl Yaffey > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 8:27 AM > To: engineercm > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 FT8 Problem VP6D > > I worked them. Like you, I heard many “hounds” and no VP6 for quite a while. Then suddenly, there they were, responding. I think it’s propagation. Keep calling. > 73 > >> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:00 AM, engineercm <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> I'm not able to decode any transmissions from VP6D but can decode >> transmissions of those calling VP6D. >> >> I have limited experience with FT8 but have been successful before. Current >> version: 1.9.1. Getting red/yellow blobs (love that term) where hounds are >> calling. Have read/re-read Don's job aid, Cady's book, and the several >> WSJT-X resources. Hound mode is checked. Green bar between 30-38. Rx All >> Freqs checked. >> >> So, is it simply propagation between my QTH (Atlanta) and VP6D? Is it my >> modest antenna? Or is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? >> Listening and looking at the on 17m at the time of this message. Many are >> calling but I have yet to see a message confirming a QSO. >> >> Any suggestions greatly appreciated! >> > Carl Yaffey K8NU > Recording studio. > [hidden email] > 614 268 6353, Columbus OH > http://www.carl-yaffey.com > http://www.grassahol.com > http://www.bluesswing.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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download and try WSJT-X 2.0 rc3 that is the latest I thought there is a
difference between 1.9 & 2.0 Ed KD7PY -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Follow their directions here:
https://vp6d.com/index.php/dxpedition/ft8-operating-guidelines Andy - W4KIL ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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If you're talking about yesterday [Mon], they were completely off the
air for a couple of hours midday here on the western frontier. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 10/30/2018 7:25 AM, Carl Yaffey wrote: > I worked them. Like you, I heard many “hounds” and no VP6 for quite a while. Then suddenly, there they were, responding. I think it’s propagation. Keep calling. > 73 > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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FWIW ... K1JT in the FT8 DXPedition mode user guide specifically says,
if you can't hear the DXPedition station, don't call them. Item #7 for hounds says: "Please do not call Fox if you are not receiving his transmissions. Do not call Fox if he issues a directed CQ (“CQ EU”, “CQ 7”, …) and your continent or numerical call area does not match the requested one. Calling out of turn only creates QRM, and will certainly not get you a QSO." The FOX should always transmit between 300 & 600 hz. if they're following the User Guide properly. Watching VP6D in action, they are doing exactly that. I would also visit this webpage: http://www.dxa3.org/vp6d/ which will list the frequencies they're using. Neil, KN3ILZ On 10/30/2018 10:25 AM, Carl Yaffey wrote: > I worked them. Like you, I heard many “hounds” and no VP6 for quite a while. Then suddenly, there they were, responding. I think it’s propagation. Keep calling. > 73 > >> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:00 AM, engineercm <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> I'm not able to decode any transmissions from VP6D but can decode >> transmissions of those calling VP6D. >> >> I have limited experience with FT8 but have been successful before. Current >> version: 1.9.1. Getting red/yellow blobs (love that term) where hounds are >> calling. Have read/re-read Don's job aid, Cady's book, and the several >> WSJT-X resources. Hound mode is checked. Green bar between 30-38. Rx All >> Freqs checked. >> >> So, is it simply propagation between my QTH (Atlanta) and VP6D? Is it my >> modest antenna? Or is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? >> Listening and looking at the on 17m at the time of this message. Many are >> calling but I have yet to see a message confirming a QSO. >> >> Any suggestions greatly appreciated! >> > Carl Yaffey K8NU > Recording studio. > [hidden email] > 614 268 6353, Columbus OH > http://www.carl-yaffey.com > http://www.grassahol.com > http://www.bluesswing.com > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Considering that Joe Taylor has specifically said that v2.0-RC3 will
default to 77 bit messages in DXPedition mode and should not be used for any DXPeditions until after the final General Availability release; and VP6D on the website's FT8 operating procedure page asks that v1.9.1 be used SPECIFICALLY, I'd just download v1.9.1 and install it into a different directory. You can have both versions on the same computer, they will use the same log files, .ini, etc. Neil, KN3ILZ On 10/30/2018 11:22 AM, Don Butler wrote: > Same intermittent problem here. I finally found that the ‘Decode only 77 bit messages’ box seems to be checked by default when you go to fox/hound mode in WSJT-X V 2.0.0 RC3 … when it is ‘unchecked’ VP6D’s transmissions will suddenly be decoded …. BUT that unchecked box cannot be saved … the next time you launch and go in fox hound mode the box seems to be checked again by default …. So when decoding of VP6D transmissions seems to stop … go to advanced settings and uncheck that box and the messages will reappear … it is obviously a bug that needs to be fixed in the software …. And apparently something different that VP6D seems to be doing with its transmitted messages ??? > > Don, N5LZ > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Carl Yaffey > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 8:27 AM > To: engineercm > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 FT8 Problem VP6D > > I worked them. Like you, I heard many “hounds” and no VP6 for quite a while. Then suddenly, there they were, responding. I think it’s propagation. Keep calling. > 73 > >> On Oct 30, 2018, at 10:00 AM, engineercm <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> I'm not able to decode any transmissions from VP6D but can decode >> transmissions of those calling VP6D. >> >> I have limited experience with FT8 but have been successful before. Current >> version: 1.9.1. Getting red/yellow blobs (love that term) where hounds are >> calling. Have read/re-read Don's job aid, Cady's book, and the several >> WSJT-X resources. Hound mode is checked. Green bar between 30-38. Rx All >> Freqs checked. >> >> So, is it simply propagation between my QTH (Atlanta) and VP6D? Is it my >> modest antenna? Or is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? >> Listening and looking at the on 17m at the time of this message. Many are >> calling but I have yet to see a message confirming a QSO. >> >> Any suggestions greatly appreciated! >> > Carl Yaffey K8NU > Recording studio. > [hidden email] > 614 268 6353, Columbus OH > http://www.carl-yaffey.com > http://www.grassahol.com > http://www.bluesswing.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 10/30/2018 12:30 PM, Andy Yates wrote:
> Follow their directions here: > https://vp6d.com/index.php/dxpedition/ft8-operating-guidelines The executive summary -- Use WSJT-X version 1.9, NOT 2.0 betas. They are working DXpedition mode on all bands EXCEPT 160M. To enter DXpedition mode, go to Settings, Advanced, and check the box for Hound. And RTFM. Then when you are copying them well, call them ABOVE 1,000 Hz. Also, go to their website VP6D.com to find their FT8 frequencies. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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This is to close out this thread.
Thanks to all who responded with suggestions all of which I had tried including setting up the software exactly as defined on the VP6D website and I never heard VP6D so I never called as they had requested. When I heard a local ham get get them on one call, and I could hear nothing, I attributed it to his GinNormAs antenna. I couldn't spend as much time as others in the seat listening but did try to operate when DXA said they were QRV. Nothing heard here. Not to be dismayed, I will continue to experiment with the mode as I find it interesting. CW is my passion, though. Thanks again to all, Clark, WU4B -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: K3 FT8 Problem VP6D
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Clark - listen for them on 17 meter CW. I tried and tried on 20 and 40 CW one evening last week with no success. On a whim I went up to 17 meters at about 7:00pm local time and there was VP6D calling CQ with very few takers. And the folks he did pick off I was not able to hear. With my K3/100 into a wire antenna, I got him on the fourth try. This past Tuesday morning I heard them again on 17 meters calling CQ - few responders. Give them a try on a band with no huge pileups - you may be surprised!
73, Jim / W6JHB > On Nov 1, 2018, at 2:56 PM, engineercm <[hidden email]> wrote: > > This is to close out this thread. > > Thanks to all who responded with suggestions all of which I had tried > including setting up the software exactly as defined on the VP6D website and > I never heard VP6D so I never called as they had requested. When I heard a > local ham get get them on one call, and I could hear nothing, I attributed > it to his GinNormAs antenna. > > I couldn't spend as much time as others in the seat listening but did try to > operate when DXA said they were QRV. Nothing heard here. > > Not to be dismayed, I will continue to experiment with the mode as I find it > interesting. CW is my passion, though. > > Thanks again to all, > > Clark, WU4B > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 11/1/2018 4:07 PM, James Bennett via Elecraft wrote:
> Clark - listen for them on 17 meter CW. They went QRT yesterday to beat some heavy WX that was coming in. They're probably all on the boat by now. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: K3 FT8 Problem VP6D
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Well, that will make it a tad more difficult to work them! :-)
> On Nov 1, 2018, at 4:19 PM, AB4IQ <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Sorry but they have QRT'd. > > Ed.. AB4IQ > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > [mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>] On Behalf Of James Bennett via > Elecraft > Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 6:08 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 FT8 Problem VP6D > > Clark - listen for them on 17 meter CW. I tried and tried on 20 and 40 CW > one evening last week with no success. On a whim I went up to 17 meters at > about 7:00pm local time and there was VP6D calling CQ with very few takers. > And the folks he did pick off I was not able to hear. With my K3/100 into a > wire antenna, I got him on the fourth try. This past Tuesday morning I heard > them again on 17 meters calling CQ - few responders. Give them a try on a > band with no huge pileups - you may be surprised! > > 73, Jim / W6JHB > > > >> On Nov 1, 2018, at 2:56 PM, engineercm <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> This is to close out this thread. >> >> Thanks to all who responded with suggestions all of which I had tried >> including setting up the software exactly as defined on the VP6D >> website and I never heard VP6D so I never called as they had >> requested. When I heard a local ham get get them on one call, and I >> could hear nothing, I attributed it to his GinNormAs antenna. >> >> I couldn't spend as much time as others in the seat listening but did >> try to operate when DXA said they were QRV. Nothing heard here. >> >> Not to be dismayed, I will continue to experiment with the mode as I >> find it interesting. CW is my passion, though. >> >> Thanks again to all, >> >> Clark, WU4B >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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