K3 FW Upload Crash
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Oh dear, I have done something really wrong!! Had a senior moment and
pressed some keys whilst in process of the latest upgrade. Can anyone extract me out of my mess?? - Upload has stopped - Display unlit but I can see MCU LD - Red TX LED flashing - Fans on full - Can't power off at the radio A most embarassed Chris G3SJJ !! _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Turn the K3 off at the power supply, then turn it back on. Next, hold the POWER switch in for about 10 seconds until you see "MCU LD" on the LCD. Then re-try your firmware load. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 4, 2008, at 12:32 PM, G3SJJ wrote: > Oh dear, I have done something really wrong!! Had a senior moment and > pressed some keys whilst in process of the latest upgrade. Can anyone > extract me out of my mess?? > > - Upload has stopped > - Display unlit but I can see MCU LD > - Red TX LED flashing > - Fans on full > - Can't power off at the radio > > A most embarassed Chris G3SJJ !! > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > --- http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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No need to be embarrassed Chris, the same thing happened to me.
I found that things got screwed up with the microkeyer router software which had set the virtual com port at 9.6k instead of 38.4k. I then used a proper RS232 port and lead, and all went well. To get in a good state, remove the power from the K3, and then hold the Power button for 10 secs. The TX light should come on, and the display show MCU LD. It will then be receptive to another upload attempt. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Sun, 04 May 2008 20:32:48 +0100, G3SJJ wrote: > Oh dear, I have done something really wrong!! Had a senior moment and > pressed some keys whilst in process of the latest upgrade. Can anyone > extract me out of my mess?? > > - Upload has stopped > - Display unlit but I can see MCU LD > - Red TX LED flashing > - Fans on full > - Can't power off at the radio > > A most embarassed Chris G3SJJ !! > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Altered the subject to Download! Well, one step forward, two steps back!
After several emails from Wayne lst night, and during his Sunday afternoon I should add, so thanks, Wayne last night, I decided to switch off. I had managed to get the download done OK but transmitted audio wasn't correct. It sounded as though the carrier oscillator was too high up the passband slope. Switched on this morning and everything was OK. It sounded really good. It should have left it at that! Oh, no. I decided to do the overnight upgrade and now I am back to square one. I am in exactly the same positions as at first - Flashing Red LED, LCD display not lit but MCU LD wording visible. This time after holding the Power button down for 10 seconds I can start another download but it fails after a while. Sometiems I get up to 10 bars, other times it stops at 3. I then get the error message "MCU programming failed. Verify file source and version. Turn the K3 off and back on and retry" I have tried rebooting computer, switching K3 PSU off, holding Power button down etc numerous times. The only thing that I have done differently on this download is what Stewart has mentioned below. I am using the mHam Keyer as my radio to computer interface. If I could get the K3 to work I could go back to RS232!! Chris G3SJJ Stewart Baker wrote: > No need to be embarrassed Chris, the same thing happened to me. > I found that things got screwed up with the microkeyer router > software which had set the virtual com port at 9.6k instead of > 38.4k. > > I then used a proper RS232 port and lead, and all went well. > > To get in a good state, remove the power from the K3, and then > hold the Power button for 10 secs. The TX light should come on, > and the display show MCU LD. It will then be receptive to another > upload attempt. > > 73 > Stewart G3RXQ > On Sun, 04 May 2008 20:32:48 +0100, G3SJJ wrote: > >> Oh dear, I have done something really wrong!! Had a senior moment and >> >> pressed some keys whilst in process of the latest upgrade. Can anyone >> >> extract me out of my mess?? >> >> - Upload has stopped >> - Display unlit but I can see MCU LD >> - Red TX LED flashing >> - Fans on full >> - Can't power off at the radio >> >> A most embarassed Chris G3SJJ !! >> Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Grateful thanks to Mal G4KFT who reminded me that I should set mHam
Keyer to No Radio. K3 working, latest downloads installed, sounding really, really good. Phew!! 73 Chris G3SJJ G3SJJ wrote: > Altered the subject to Download! Well, one step forward, two steps back! > > After several emails from Wayne lst night, and during his Sunday > afternoon I should add, so thanks, Wayne last night, I decided to > switch off. > > I had managed to get the download done OK but transmitted audio wasn't > correct. It sounded as though the carrier oscillator was too high up > the passband slope. > > Switched on this morning and everything was OK. It sounded really > good. It should have left it at that! Oh, no. I decided to do the > overnight upgrade and now I am back to square one. > > I am in exactly the same positions as at first - Flashing Red LED, LCD > display not lit but MCU LD wording visible. > > This time after holding the Power button down for 10 seconds I can > start another download but it fails after a while. Sometiems I get up > to 10 bars, other times it stops at 3. I then get the error message > "MCU programming failed. Verify file source and version. Turn the K3 > off and back on and retry" > > I have tried rebooting computer, switching K3 PSU off, holding Power > button down etc numerous times. > > The only thing that I have done differently on this download is what > Stewart has mentioned below. I am using the mHam Keyer as my radio to > computer interface. If I could get the K3 to work I could go back to > RS232!! > > Chris G3SJJ > > > > Stewart Baker wrote: >> No need to be embarrassed Chris, the same thing happened to me. >> I found that things got screwed up with the microkeyer router >> software which had set the virtual com port at 9.6k instead of 38.4k. >> >> I then used a proper RS232 port and lead, and all went well. >> >> To get in a good state, remove the power from the K3, and then hold >> the Power button for 10 secs. The TX light should come on, and the >> display show MCU LD. It will then be receptive to another upload >> attempt. >> >> 73 >> Stewart G3RXQ >> On Sun, 04 May 2008 20:32:48 +0100, G3SJJ wrote: >> >>> Oh dear, I have done something really wrong!! Had a senior moment and >>> pressed some keys whilst in process of the latest upgrade. Can >>> anyone >>> extract me out of my mess?? >>> >>> - Upload has stopped >>> - Display unlit but I can see MCU LD >>> - Red TX LED flashing >>> - Fans on full >>> - Can't power off at the radio >>> >>> A most embarassed Chris G3SJJ !! >>> > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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The last item in "USB to Serial Adapter Troubleshooting" part of K3 Utility
Help was provided to me by W4TV, microHAM's US distributor. The microHAM router gets in the way of K3 Firmware loads unless you change the radio type in the microHAM router to "None". The K3's "boot loader" (the permanent part that is receiving MCU firmware from the K3 Utility) expects what is being sent by the K3 Utility, without "added value" from intermediate software. microHAM's router is undoubtedly doing a reasonable thing if the radio is acting like the K3 described in the K3 programmer's reference, but during firmware load the MCU doesn't respond to the entire K3 command set, and the K3 Utility isn't expecting responses to anything other than what it sent. 73 de Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of G3SJJ Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:59 AM Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 FW Download Crash Altered the subject to Download! Well, one step forward, two steps back! After several emails from Wayne lst night, and during his Sunday afternoon I should add, so thanks, Wayne last night, I decided to switch off. I had managed to get the download done OK but transmitted audio wasn't correct. It sounded as though the carrier oscillator was too high up the passband slope. Switched on this morning and everything was OK. It sounded really good. It should have left it at that! Oh, no. I decided to do the overnight upgrade and now I am back to square one. I am in exactly the same positions as at first - Flashing Red LED, LCD display not lit but MCU LD wording visible. This time after holding the Power button down for 10 seconds I can start another download but it fails after a while. Sometiems I get up to 10 bars, other times it stops at 3. I then get the error message "MCU programming failed. Verify file source and version. Turn the K3 off and back on and retry" I have tried rebooting computer, switching K3 PSU off, holding Power button down etc numerous times. The only thing that I have done differently on this download is what Stewart has mentioned below. I am using the mHam Keyer as my radio to computer interface. If I could get the K3 to work I could go back to RS232!! Chris G3SJJ Stewart Baker wrote: > No need to be embarrassed Chris, the same thing happened to me. > I found that things got screwed up with the microkeyer router > software which had set the virtual com port at 9.6k instead of > 38.4k. > > I then used a proper RS232 port and lead, and all went well. > > To get in a good state, remove the power from the K3, and then > hold the Power button for 10 secs. The TX light should come on, > and the display show MCU LD. It will then be receptive to another > upload attempt. > > 73 > Stewart G3RXQ > On Sun, 04 May 2008 20:32:48 +0100, G3SJJ wrote: > >> Oh dear, I have done something really wrong!! Had a senior moment and >> >> pressed some keys whilst in process of the latest upgrade. Can anyone >> >> extract me out of my mess?? >> >> - Upload has stopped >> - Display unlit but I can see MCU LD >> - Red TX LED flashing >> - Fans on full >> - Can't power off at the radio >> >> A most embarassed Chris G3SJJ !! >> Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Thanks, that's good info. It is certainly easier to select the
radio type to "None" than mess around changing serial cables. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Mon, 5 May 2008 08:53:43 -0600, Dick Dievendorff wrote: > The last item in "USB to Serial Adapter Troubleshooting" part of K3 Utility > Help was provided to me by W4TV, microHAM's US distributor. > > The microHAM router gets in the way of K3 Firmware loads unless you change > the radio type in the microHAM router to "None". > > The K3's "boot loader" (the permanent part that is receiving MCU firmware > from the K3 Utility) expects what is being sent by the K3 Utility, without > "added value" from intermediate software. microHAM's router is undoubtedly > doing a reasonable thing if the radio is acting like the K3 described in the > K3 programmer's reference, but during firmware load the MCU doesn't respond > to the entire K3 command set, and the K3 Utility isn't expecting responses > to anything other than what it sent. > > 73 de Dick, K6KR > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of G3SJJ > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:59 AM > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 FW Download Crash > > Altered the subject to Download! Well, one step forward, two > > After several emails from Wayne lst night, and during his Sunday > afternoon I should add, so thanks, Wayne last night, I decided to switch > off. > > I had managed to get the download done OK but transmitted audio wasn't > correct. It sounded as though the carrier oscillator was too high up the > passband slope. > > Switched on this morning and everything was OK. It sounded really good. > It should have left it at that! Oh, no. I decided to do the overnight > upgrade and now I am back to square one. > > I am in exactly the same positions as at first - Flashing Red LED, LCD > display not lit but MCU LD wording visible. > > This time after holding the Power button down for 10 seconds I can start > another download but it fails after a while. Sometiems I get up to 10 > bars, other times it stops at 3. I then get the error message "MCU > programming failed. Verify file source and version. Turn the K3 off and > back on and retry" > > I have tried rebooting computer, switching K3 PSU off, holding Power > button down etc numerous times. > > The only thing that I have done differently on this download is what > Stewart has mentioned below. I am using the mHam Keyer as my radio to > computer interface. If I could get the K3 to work I could go back to RS232!! > > Chris G3SJJ > > > Stewart Baker wrote: >> No need to be embarrassed Chris, the same thing happened to me. >> I found that things got screwed up with the microkeyer router >> software which had set the virtual com port at 9.6k instead of >> 38.4k. >> >> I then used a proper RS232 port and lead, and all went well. >> >> To get in a good state, remove the power from the K3, and then >> hold the Power button for 10 secs. The TX light should come on, >> and the display show MCU LD. It will then be receptive to >> upload attempt. >> >> 73 >> Stewart G3RXQ >> On Sun, 04 May 2008 20:32:48 +0100, G3SJJ wrote: >> >>> Oh dear, I have done something really wrong!! Had a senior moment and >>> >>> pressed some keys whilst in process of the latest upgrade. Can anyone >>> >>> extract me out of my mess?? >>> >>> - Upload has stopped >>> - Display unlit but I can see MCU LD >>> - Red TX LED flashing >>> - Fans on full >>> - Can't power off at the radio >>> >>> A most embarassed Chris G3SJJ !! >>> > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> Thanks, that's good info. It is certainly easier to select the > radio type to "None" than mess around changing serial cables. The alternative to "none" is to check the "Disable Router Queries" box. With that checked, Router will not do any polling while The K3 Utility has the port open. That said, I've updated my K3 several times through microKEYER II. On a couple of occasions I have forgotten to disable Router's polls and locked up the K3. Disconnecting power and restarting the upload was all that was required to recover. 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM [hidden email] > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Stewart Baker > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 11:15 AM > To: [hidden email]; 'G3SJJ' > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 FW Download Crash > > > Thanks, that's good info. It is certainly easier to select the > radio type to "None" than mess around changing serial cables. > > 73 > Stewart G3RXQ > On Mon, 5 May 2008 08:53:43 -0600, Dick Dievendorff wrote: > > The last item in "USB to Serial Adapter Troubleshooting" part of > K3 Utility > > Help was provided to me by W4TV, microHAM's US distributor. > > > > The microHAM router gets in the way of K3 Firmware loads unless > you change > > the radio type in the microHAM router to "None". > > > > The K3's "boot loader" (the permanent part that is receiving MCU > firmware > > from the K3 Utility) expects what is being sent by the K3 > Utility, without > > "added value" from intermediate software. microHAM's router is > undoubtedly > > doing a reasonable thing if the radio is acting like the K3 > described in the > > K3 programmer's reference, but during firmware load the MCU > doesn't respond > > to the entire K3 command set, and the K3 Utility isn't expecting > responses > > to anything other than what it sent. > > > > 73 de Dick, K6KR > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [hidden email] > > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of G3SJJ > > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:59 AM > > Cc: [hidden email] > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 FW Download Crash > > > > Altered the subject to Download! Well, one step forward, two > steps back! > > > > After several emails from Wayne lst night, and during his Sunday > > afternoon I should add, so thanks, Wayne last night, I decided > to switch > > off. > > > > I had managed to get the download done OK but transmitted audio > wasn't > > correct. It sounded as though the carrier oscillator was too > high up the > > passband slope. > > > > Switched on this morning and everything was OK. It sounded > really good. > > It should have left it at that! Oh, no. I decided to do the > overnight > > upgrade and now I am back to square one. > > > > I am in exactly the same positions as at first - Flashing Red > LED, LCD > > display not lit but MCU LD wording visible. > > > > This time after holding the Power button down for 10 seconds I > can start > > another download but it fails after a while. Sometiems I get up > to 10 > > bars, other times it stops at 3. I then get the error message > "MCU > > programming failed. Verify file source and version. Turn the K3 > off and > > back on and retry" > > > > I have tried rebooting computer, switching K3 PSU off, holding > Power > > button down etc numerous times. > > > > The only thing that I have done differently on this download is > what > > Stewart has mentioned below. I am using the mHam Keyer as my > radio to > > computer interface. If I could get the K3 to work I could go > back to RS232!! > > > > Chris G3SJJ > > > > > > Stewart Baker wrote: > >> No need to be embarrassed Chris, the same thing happened to me. > >> I found that things got screwed up with the microkeyer router > >> software which had set the virtual com port at 9.6k instead of > >> 38.4k. > >> > >> I then used a proper RS232 port and lead, and all went well. > >> > >> To get in a good state, remove the power from the K3, and then > >> hold the Power button for 10 secs. The TX light should come on, > >> and the display show MCU LD. It will then be receptive to > another > >> upload attempt. > >> > >> 73 > >> Stewart G3RXQ > >> On Sun, 04 May 2008 20:32:48 +0100, G3SJJ wrote: > >> > >>> Oh dear, I have done something really wrong!! Had a senior > moment and > >>> > >>> pressed some keys whilst in process of the latest upgrade. Can > anyone > >>> > >>> extract me out of my mess?? > >>> > >>> - Upload has stopped > >>> - Display unlit but I can see MCU LD > >>> - Red TX LED flashing > >>> - Fans on full > >>> - Can't power off at the radio > >>> > >>> A most embarassed Chris G3SJJ !! > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Post to: [hidden email] > > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Post to: [hidden email] > > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In response to a suggestion here a while back, I have simply created a new profile in my Router set for 'No Radio', 'No Polling' etc and called it 'K3 Upload' or something. Switching to that when invoking an upload seems to work every time with my K3/Microham CW Keyer..... 73, Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF |
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On Tue, 6 May 2008 00:00:13 -0700 (PDT), GW0ETF wrote:
> Good idea Stewart, Now if I can only find an existing profile to sacrifice I will do the same :-) 73 Stewart G3RXQ > > In response to a suggestion here a while back, I have simply created a new > profile in my Router set for 'No Radio', 'No Polling' etc and called it 'K3 > Upload' or something. Switching to that when invoking an upload seems to > work every time with my K3/Microham CW Keyer..... > > 73, > > Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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TX Delay (control to amplifier) can be adjusted from 8 mS to 20 mS which is
good. Question: Does the release time follow with the same - chosen - amount or do we have immediate release? Len SM7BIC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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