K3 Firmware Rev. 2.76: No AF noise burst; PRE/ATTN independent for sub RX; etc.

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K3 Firmware Rev. 2.76: No AF noise burst; PRE/ATTN independent for sub RX; etc.

wayne burdick
Administrator
K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.76 (with DSP rev 1.98) is now
available. See release notes below.

Please send any problem reports to [hidden email]. For
instructions on how to load beta firmware, please see:

   http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

73,
Wayne
N6KR

* * *

MCU 2.76 / DSP 1.98, 12-21-2008

* POWER-ON AF NOISE BURST:  This should now be eliminated.

* DIGIT 2 SWITCH TONE FEEDBACK RESTORED. The ‘2’ key on the numeric
keypad now provides tone feedback when used for numeric entry or within
menu entries. There’s no tone when it’s used as “REV” (temporary A/B VFO
reverse).

* SSB TX AFTER VFO A/B SWAP: Transmit filter settings are now correct
after any A/B swap, regardless of the modes of VFO A and B. This had
been
noted by some customers as a problem on power-up, but it could occur
anytime the VFOs were in different modes at the time of an A/B swap.

* INDEPENDENT PREAMP AND ATTN FOR SUB RECEIVER: The preamp
and attenuator settings for the receiver are now independent of main.
On each band, you can set up the sub’s preamp/attenuator as desired
using BSET. The sub’s preamp/attenuator are separate even in diversity
mode, where you’ll often be using a lower-gain antenna for the sub
receiver.
Note: A second tap of A>B within the 2-second window still copies all
main receiver settings to the sub, including preamp and attenuator.

For software developers:

* “FR0” COMMAND (SPLIT CANCEL): Now correctly restores the VFO A arrow
icon.

* CONFIG:KPA3 MENU ENTRY: The parameter for this menu entry is now
accessible via the “MP” command.

* “FA”/”FB” commands and loss of PLL lock: Large FA/FB frequency steps
were, on rare occasion, causing loss of PLL lock. This has been
corrected.

* Added "PA$" (sub RX preamp) and "RA$" (sub RX attenuator) commands.
This is in conjunction with the sub preamp and attenuator settings now
being independent of main (see above). During BSET, both return “?;”
at present.


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Re: K3 Firmware Rev. 2.76: No AF noise burst

Bill Steffey NY9H

Thanks Wayne....  I always HATED  that audio pop.... ever since solid
state outputs,,,,
now it turns on like it should.... like the expensive esoteric piece it is .


Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays to all the crew...  ( even Eric)

bill


visit my station @
http://picasaweb.google.com/Bill.SteffeySr/HamRadioNY9H

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Re: K3 Firmware Rev. 2.76: No AF noise burst; PRE/ATTN independent for sub RX; etc.

Dick Housden, W0NTA
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Wayne,

Thanks so much for correcting the SSB audio issue. It works just fine now.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and all the Elecraft crew.

73, Dick, W0NTA

wayne burdick wrote
K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.76 (with DSP rev 1.98) is now
available. See release notes below.

Please send any problem reports to k3support@elecraft.com. For
instructions on how to load beta firmware, please see:

   http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

73,
Wayne
N6KR

* * *

MCU 2.76 / DSP 1.98, 12-21-2008

* POWER-ON AF NOISE BURST:  This should now be eliminated.

* DIGIT 2 SWITCH TONE FEEDBACK RESTORED. The ‘2’ key on the numeric
keypad now provides tone feedback when used for numeric entry or within
menu entries. There’s no tone when it’s used as “REV” (temporary A/B VFO
reverse).

* SSB TX AFTER VFO A/B SWAP: Transmit filter settings are now correct
after any A/B swap, regardless of the modes of VFO A and B. This had
been
noted by some customers as a problem on power-up, but it could occur
anytime the VFOs were in different modes at the time of an A/B swap.

* INDEPENDENT PREAMP AND ATTN FOR SUB RECEIVER: The preamp
and attenuator settings for the receiver are now independent of main.
On each band, you can set up the sub’s preamp/attenuator as desired
using BSET. The sub’s preamp/attenuator are separate even in diversity
mode, where you’ll often be using a lower-gain antenna for the sub
receiver.
Note: A second tap of A>B within the 2-second window still copies all
main receiver settings to the sub, including preamp and attenuator.

For software developers:

* “FR0” COMMAND (SPLIT CANCEL): Now correctly restores the VFO A arrow
icon.

* CONFIG:KPA3 MENU ENTRY: The parameter for this menu entry is now
accessible via the “MP” command.

* “FA”/”FB” commands and loss of PLL lock: Large FA/FB frequency steps
were, on rare occasion, causing loss of PLL lock. This has been
corrected.

* Added "PA$" (sub RX preamp) and "RA$" (sub RX attenuator) commands.
This is in conjunction with the sub preamp and attenuator settings now
being independent of main (see above). During BSET, both return “?;”
at present.


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Re: K3 Firmware Rev. 2.76: No AF noise burst; PRE/ATTN independent for sub RX; etc.

Stewart Baker
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On my K3 there is still quite a loud speaker 'pop' with Power On
and Off after loading firmware revision 2.76.

Looking at the NS data sheet for the audio amplifier IC shows that
it has click suppression built in. The length of the suppression
period is determined by the value of the capacitor on the Bypass
connection.The value of the bypass capacitor is related to the
input coupling capacitor.

 On the K3 cct diagram this is shown as a 0.47uF, which suggests a
10uF be fitted to the Bypass connection to give a click mute
period of 0.4S. However, the K3 cct diagram shows a 3.3uF fitted,
which gives only 0.12S.

Any benefit increasing the value to 10uF ?

73
Stewart G3RXQ
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:37:46 -0800, wayne burdick wrote:

> K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.76 (with DSP rev 1.98) is now
> available. See release notes below.
>
> Please send any problem reports to [hidden email]. For
> instructions on how to load beta firmware, please see:
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> * * *
>
> MCU 2.76 / DSP 1.98, 12-21-2008
>
> * POWER-ON AF NOISE BURST:  This should now be eliminated.
>
> * DIGIT 2 SWITCH TONE FEEDBACK RESTORED. The '2' key on the
numeric
> keypad now provides tone feedback when used for numeric entry or
within
> menu entries. There's no tone when it's used as "REV" (temporary
A/B VFO
> reverse).
>
> * SSB TX AFTER VFO A/B SWAP: Transmit filter settings are now
correct
> after any A/B swap, regardless of the modes of VFO A and B. This
had
> been
> noted by some customers as a problem on power-up, but it could
occur
> anytime the VFOs were in different modes at the time of an A/B
swap.
>
> * INDEPENDENT PREAMP AND ATTN FOR SUB RECEIVER: The preamp
> and attenuator settings for the receiver are now independent of
main.
> On each band, you can set up the sub's preamp/attenuator as
desired
> using BSET. The sub's preamp/attenuator are separate even in
diversity
> mode, where you'll often be using a lower-gain antenna for the
sub
> receiver.
> Note: A second tap of A>B within the 2-second window still
copies all
> main receiver settings to the sub, including preamp and
attenuator.
>
> For software developers:
>
> * "FR0" COMMAND (SPLIT CANCEL): Now correctly restores the VFO A
arrow
> icon.
>
> * CONFIG:KPA3 MENU ENTRY: The parameter for this menu entry is
now
> accessible via the "MP" command.
>
> * "FA"/"FB" commands and loss of PLL lock: Large FA/FB frequency
steps
> were, on rare occasion, causing loss of PLL lock. This has been
> corrected.
>
> * Added "PA$" (sub RX preamp) and "RA$" (sub RX attenuator)
commands.
> This is in conjunction with the sub preamp and attenuator
settings now
> being independent of main (see above). During BSET, both return
"?;"

> at present.
>
>
> ---
>
> http://www.elecraft.com
>
>
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Re: K3 Firmware Rev. 2.76: No AF noise burst; PRE/ATTN independent for sub RX; etc.

Christopher Kovacs
I too still suffer from the notorious "pop" when powering on.  I would
be interested if this change may help.

73, es happy holidays

Chris

Stewart Baker wrote:

> On my K3 there is still quite a loud speaker 'pop' with Power On
> and Off after loading firmware revision 2.76.
>
> Looking at the NS data sheet for the audio amplifier IC shows that
> it has click suppression built in. The length of the suppression
> period is determined by the value of the capacitor on the Bypass
> connection.The value of the bypass capacitor is related to the
> input coupling capacitor.
>
>  On the K3 cct diagram this is shown as a 0.47uF, which suggests a
> 10uF be fitted to the Bypass connection to give a click mute
> period of 0.4S. However, the K3 cct diagram shows a 3.3uF fitted,
> which gives only 0.12S.  
>
> Any benefit increasing the value to 10uF ?
>
> 73
> Stewart G3RXQ
> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:37:46 -0800, wayne burdick wrote:
>  
>> K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.76 (with DSP rev 1.98) is now
>> available. See release notes below.
>>
>> Please send any problem reports to [hidden email]. For
>> instructions on how to load beta firmware, please see:
>>
>> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>> * * *
>>
>> MCU 2.76 / DSP 1.98, 12-21-2008
>>
>> * POWER-ON AF NOISE BURST:  This should now be eliminated.
>>
>> * DIGIT 2 SWITCH TONE FEEDBACK RESTORED. The '2' key on the
>>    
> numeric
>  
>> keypad now provides tone feedback when used for numeric entry or
>>    
> within
>  
>> menu entries. There's no tone when it's used as "REV" (temporary
>>    
> A/B VFO
>  
>> reverse).
>>
>> * SSB TX AFTER VFO A/B SWAP: Transmit filter settings are now
>>    
> correct
>  
>> after any A/B swap, regardless of the modes of VFO A and B. This
>>    
> had
>  
>> been
>> noted by some customers as a problem on power-up, but it could
>>    
> occur
>  
>> anytime the VFOs were in different modes at the time of an A/B
>>    
> swap.
>  
>> * INDEPENDENT PREAMP AND ATTN FOR SUB RECEIVER: The preamp
>> and attenuator settings for the receiver are now independent of
>>    
> main.
>  
>> On each band, you can set up the sub's preamp/attenuator as
>>    
> desired
>  
>> using BSET. The sub's preamp/attenuator are separate even in
>>    
> diversity
>  
>> mode, where you'll often be using a lower-gain antenna for the
>>    
> sub
>  
>> receiver.
>> Note: A second tap of A>B within the 2-second window still
>>    
> copies all
>  
>> main receiver settings to the sub, including preamp and
>>    
> attenuator.
>  
>> For software developers:
>>
>> * "FR0" COMMAND (SPLIT CANCEL): Now correctly restores the VFO A
>>    
> arrow
>  
>> icon.
>>
>> * CONFIG:KPA3 MENU ENTRY: The parameter for this menu entry is
>>    
> now
>  
>> accessible via the "MP" command.
>>
>> * "FA"/"FB" commands and loss of PLL lock: Large FA/FB frequency
>>    
> steps
>  
>> were, on rare occasion, causing loss of PLL lock. This has been
>> corrected.
>>
>> * Added "PA$" (sub RX preamp) and "RA$" (sub RX attenuator)
>>    
> commands.
>  
>> This is in conjunction with the sub preamp and attenuator
>>    
> settings now
>  
>> being independent of main (see above). During BSET, both return
>>    
> "?;"
>  
>> at present.
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> http://www.elecraft.com
>>
>>
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Re: K3 Firmware Rev. 2.76: No AF noise burst; PRE/ATTN independent for sub RX; etc.

wayne burdick
Administrator
Christopher Kovacs wrote:

> I too still suffer from the notorious "pop" when powering on.  I would
> be interested if this change may help.

The "AF noise burst" that is eliminated by the latest firmware was
caused by the AGC being turned off until about 2 seconds after
power-up. If you had been tuned to a strong station, with the old
firmware, you could hear a couple of seconds of very loud audio. That
no longer happens.

The "pop" heard in the speaker when turning on is an inherent property
of the speaker amplifier IC, and cannot be changed in firmware. If we
come up with a way to minimize this, we'll let you know. Meanwhile, you
could plug in your headphones just when turning on power; this cuts off
the speaker amp.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: Re: K3 Firmware Rev. 2.76: No AF noise burst; PRE/ATTN independent for sub RX; etc.

Iain MacDonnell - N6ML


wayne burdick wrote:

> Christopher Kovacs wrote:
>
>> I too still suffer from the notorious "pop" when powering on.  I would
>> be interested if this change may help.
>
> The "AF noise burst" that is eliminated by the latest firmware was
> caused by the AGC being turned off until about 2 seconds after power-up.
> If you had been tuned to a strong station, with the old firmware, you
> could hear a couple of seconds of very loud audio. That no longer happens.
>
> The "pop" heard in the speaker when turning on is an inherent property
> of the speaker amplifier IC, and cannot be changed in firmware. If we
> come up with a way to minimize this, we'll let you know. Meanwhile, you
> could plug in your headphones just when turning on power; this cuts off
> the speaker amp.

FWIW, the "pop" doesn't bother me at all... the "burst" was extremely
loud, even with no signal, on a noisy band. I'm quite happy with the
fix.

Thanks!

     ~Iain / N6ML

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RE: K3 Firmware Rev. 2.76: No AF noise burst; PRE/ATTNindependent for sub RX; etc.

Mike Short
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I have never experienced the audio pop. I turn the volume and power controls
all the way down before powering off the radio. I have updated with all the
upgrades as they are released.

Mike
AI4NS

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Re: K3 Firmware Rev. 2.76: No AF noise burst; PRE/ATTN independent for sub RX; etc.

Christopher Kovacs
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Hi Wayne,

No problem, I understand now what's occurring.

Merry Xmas to all,

Chris

wayne burdick wrote:

> Christopher Kovacs wrote:
>
>> I too still suffer from the notorious "pop" when powering on.  I
>> would be interested if this change may help.
>
> The "AF noise burst" that is eliminated by the latest firmware was
> caused by the AGC being turned off until about 2 seconds after
> power-up. If you had been tuned to a strong station, with the old
> firmware, you could hear a couple of seconds of very loud audio. That
> no longer happens.
>
> The "pop" heard in the speaker when turning on is an inherent property
> of the speaker amplifier IC, and cannot be changed in firmware. If we
> come up with a way to minimize this, we'll let you know. Meanwhile,
> you could plug in your headphones just when turning on power; this
> cuts off the speaker amp.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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>
>

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