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n3ua

K3 + Heil HC4

I am unable to get Heil HC4 working connected to K3 front panel.Tried FP.H/FP.L with bias on and off but no luck !??.
Connected cheap Condenser Microphone Element on FP - worked great. On rear panel HC4 works fine. Any idea ?

Thanks

N3UA

Ian Maude

Re: K3 + Heil HC4

My guess would be that you have the wrong adapter. It needs to be the
Kenwood one. The settings should be FP-H and no bias.

73 Ian

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2009/12/23 n3ua <[hidden email]>

>
> I am unable to get Heil HC4 working connected to K3 front panel.Tried
> FP.H/FP.L with bias on and off but no luck !??.
> Connected cheap Condenser Microphone Element on FP - worked great. On
> rear
> panel HC4 works fine. Any idea ?
>
> Thanks
>
> N3UA
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Jorge Diez - CX6VM

Re: K3 + Heil HC4

Hello,

Heil ProSet with kenwood adapter will work 100% in the K3??

Thanks,
Jorge
CX6VM

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Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4

My guess would be that you have the wrong adapter. It needs to be the
Kenwood one. The settings should be FP-H and no bias.

73 Ian

--
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SysOp GB7MBC & HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters
Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455
http://www.amateurradiotraining.org

2009/12/23 n3ua <[hidden email]>

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Mike Reublin

Re: K3 + Heil HC4

Works very well in mine.

73, Mike NF4L

Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Heil ProSet with kenwood adapter will work 100% in the K3??
>
> Thanks,
> Jorge
> CX6VM
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] En nombre de Ian Maude
> Enviado el: Miércoles, 23 de Diciembre de 2009 06:40 a.m.
> Para: n3ua
> CC: [hidden email]
> Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4
>
> My guess would be that you have the wrong adapter. It needs to be the
> Kenwood one. The settings should be FP-H and no bias.
>
> 73 Ian
>
>

Don Wilhelm-4

Re: K3 + Heil HC4

In reply to this post by n3ua

You say the rear panel settings work - put those same settings on the FP
mic menu and try it.
If a condenser mic element works on the FP, then you must have Bias set
on - turn it off for the HC-4 and set the range to H.
You must have the Kenwood adapter to use the front panel connector.
IIRC, the color band for the Kenwood adapter is red.

73,
Don W3FPR

n3ua wrote:

> I am unable to get Heil HC4 working connected to K3 front panel.Tried
> FP.H/FP.L with bias on and off but no luck !??.
> Connected cheap Condenser Microphone Element on FP - worked great. On rear
> panel HC4 works fine. Any idea ?
>
> Thanks
>
> N3UA
>
>

n3ua

Re: K3 + Heil HC4

In reply to this post by n3ua

Thanks everyone who responded, looks like my problem is Kenwood Adapter. Don't have one , wired directly from Heil mic jack 3.5mm tip to K3 Mic connector pin 1 and ground to ground -pin 7 (8).
Does anyone have Kenwood adapter schematic?

Thanks

73

N3UA

Mike Reublin

Re: K3 + Heil HC4

Here's a .pdf of a Kenwood TS-850. The pinout for the mic is on p. 13.

http://www.qsl.net/dk9ip/850IM/850im.pdf

73, Mike NF4L

n3ua wrote:

> Thanks everyone who responded, looks like my problem is Kenwood Adapter.
> Don't have one , wired directly from Heil mic jack 3.5mm tip to K3 Mic
> connector pin 1 and ground to ground -pin 7 (8).
> Does anyone have Kenwood adapter schematic?
>
> Thanks
>
> 73
>
> N3UA
>

Julius Fazekas n2wn

Re: K3 + Heil HC4

This link should help with many of the mics floating about in hamdom:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/date.html

73,
Julius

Mike-14 wrote

Here's a .pdf of a Kenwood TS-850. The pinout for the mic is on p. 13.

http://www.qsl.net/dk9ip/850IM/850im.pdf

73, Mike NF4L

n3ua wrote:
> Thanks everyone who responded, looks like my problem is Kenwood Adapter.
> Don't have one , wired directly from Heil mic jack 3.5mm tip to K3 Mic
> connector pin 1 and ground to ground -pin 7 (8).
> Does anyone have Kenwood adapter schematic?
>
> Thanks
>
> 73
>
> N3UA
>

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Mike Reublin

Re: K3 + Heil HC4

In reply to this post by n3ua

Do you have MENU:MIC SEL set to FP.H? BIAS on? Mic gain on my setup is 25.

I put an ohmeter on the adapter, and pin 1 is the hot lead, pin 7 is
ground. Are you sure you're looking at the pins correctly?
Looking into the connector on the front of the K3, pin 1 is on the left
of the key "bump" and pin 7 is on the right. The pins are numbered
anti-clockwise from 1 to 7, with 8 being in the middle. I don't think
the Heil adapter has anything inside the shell, no extra components.

73, Mike

KI4FDF@MSN wrote:

> Hello Mike,
>
> Thanks for the link. I looked at Mic connector pinout, 1 and 7 are used
> for MIC , it is the same as K3, so I wired HC4 Mic jack tip (hot ) to 1
> and common(ground) to ground pin 7 , that did not work !
> I would expect some more components between K3 Mic and HC4.If it is
> only wiring then I have done correctly , must be something else I missed.
>
> 73
>
> Sejo , N3UA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 7:15 PM
> To: n3ua
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4
>
> Here's a .pdf of a Kenwood TS-850. The pinout for the mic is on p. 13.
>
> http://www.qsl.net/dk9ip/850IM/850im.pdf
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
> n3ua wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone who responded, looks like my problem is Kenwood
>>
> Adapter.
>
>> Don't have one , wired directly from Heil mic jack 3.5mm tip to K3 Mic
>> connector pin 1 and ground to ground -pin 7 (8).
>> Does anyone have Kenwood adapter schematic?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> 73
>>
>> N3UA
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

Ian Maude

Re: K3 + Heil HC4

You do not want bias on for a HC4, it is a dynamic insert.

73 Ian

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SysOp GB7MBC & HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters
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2009/12/24 Mike <[hidden email]>

> Do you have MENU:MIC SEL set to FP.H? BIAS on? Mic gain on my setup is 25.
>
> I put an ohmeter on the adapter, and pin 1 is the hot lead, pin 7 is
> ground. Are you sure you're looking at the pins correctly?
> Looking into the connector on the front of the K3, pin 1 is on the left
> of the key "bump" and pin 7 is on the right. The pins are numbered
> anti-clockwise from 1 to 7, with 8 being in the middle. I don't think
> the Heil adapter has anything inside the shell, no extra components.
>
> 73, Mike
>
> KI4FDF@MSN wrote:
> > Hello Mike,
> >
> > Thanks for the link. I looked at Mic connector pinout, 1 and 7 are
> used
> > for MIC , it is the same as K3, so I wired HC4 Mic jack tip (hot ) to
> 1
> > and common(ground) to ground pin 7 , that did not work !
> > I would expect some more components between K3 Mic and HC4.If it is
> > only wiring then I have done correctly , must be something else I
> missed.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Sejo , N3UA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 7:15 PM
> > To: n3ua
> > Cc: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4
> >
> > Here's a .pdf of a Kenwood TS-850. The pinout for the mic is on p. 13.
> >
> > http://www.qsl.net/dk9ip/850IM/850im.pdf
> >
> > 73, Mike NF4L
> >
> > n3ua wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks everyone who responded, looks like my problem is Kenwood
> >>
> > Adapter.
> >
> >> Don't have one , wired directly from Heil mic jack 3.5mm tip to K3 Mic
> >> connector pin 1 and ground to ground -pin 7 (8).
> >> Does anyone have Kenwood adapter schematic?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> N3UA
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Mike Reublin

Re: K3 + Heil HC4

Oops. Thanks for catching that. I must have turned it on when I was
looking at the settings.

73, Mike

Ian Maude wrote:

> You do not want bias on for a HC4, it is a dynamic insert.
>
> 73 Ian
>
> --
> Ian J Maude, G0VGS
> SysOp GB7MBC & HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters
> Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455
> http://www.amateurradiotraining.org
>
>
> 2009/12/24 Mike <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>
> Do you have MENU:MIC SEL set to FP.H? BIAS on? Mic gain on my
> setup is 25.
>
> I put an ohmeter on the adapter, and pin 1 is the hot lead, pin 7 is
> ground. Are you sure you're looking at the pins correctly?
> Looking into the connector on the front of the K3, pin 1 is on the
> left
> of the key "bump" and pin 7 is on the right. The pins are numbered
> anti-clockwise from 1 to 7, with 8 being in the middle. I don't think
> the Heil adapter has anything inside the shell, no extra components.
>
> 73, Mike
>
> KI4FDF@MSN wrote:
> > Hello Mike,
> >
> > Thanks for the link. I looked at Mic connector pinout, 1 and
> 7 are used
> > for MIC , it is the same as K3, so I wired HC4 Mic jack tip
> (hot ) to 1
> > and common(ground) to ground pin 7 , that did not work !
> > I would expect some more components between K3 Mic and
> HC4.If it is
> > only wiring then I have done correctly , must be something else
> I missed.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Sejo , N3UA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike [mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 7:15 PM
> > To: n3ua
> > Cc: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4
> >
> > Here's a .pdf of a Kenwood TS-850. The pinout for the mic is on
> p. 13.
> >
> > http://www.qsl.net/dk9ip/850IM/850im.pdf
> >
> > 73, Mike NF4L
> >
> > n3ua wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks everyone who responded, looks like my problem is Kenwood
> >>
> > Adapter.
> >
> >> Don't have one , wired directly from Heil mic jack 3.5mm tip
> to K3 Mic
> >> connector pin 1 and ground to ground -pin 7 (8).
> >> Does anyone have Kenwood adapter schematic?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> N3UA
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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