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Bob KD7YZ

K3: How to setup K3 with Signalink-USB ?

Howdy K3' people:

I have another 'Newbie User' Question.

This one regards the fact that I notice when the K3 is already on AND I
then turn-on the Windows-7 machine, at some point the rig switches to
Xmit. Per the manual, it goes into "Test" mode, and thus, no RF Power.

No other "Radio" software programs had been "Started" yet.

K3 associated with COM1 which is 38400-8N1/Xon/Xoff
K3 Baud Rate to 38400

This, for me anyway, repeatable.

While not a problem OF the K3, whatever I haven't set up is annoying.

--
73
KD7YZ Bob

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Mike Harris

Re: K3: How to setup K3 with Signalink-USB ?

My Dell Win7/64 box keys the K3 seven times in a burst on boot up. If
the K3 is already on I just enable TX test until boot up has completed.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 15/11/2012 08:53, KD7YZ Bob wrote:

> Howdy K3' people:
>
> I have another 'Newbie User' Question.
>
> This one regards the fact that I notice when the K3 is already on AND I
> then turn-on the Windows-7 machine, at some point the rig switches to
> Xmit. Per the manual, it goes into "Test" mode, and thus, no RF Power.
>
> No other "Radio" software programs had been "Started" yet.
>
> K3 associated with COM1 which is 38400-8N1/Xon/Xoff
> K3 Baud Rate to 38400
>
> This, for me anyway, repeatable.
>
> While not a problem OF the K3, whatever I haven't set up is annoying.
>
>

Jeff Herr

Re: K3: How to setup K3 with Signalink-USB ?

During system boot as the various drivers load they will assert i/o as they
initialize the hardware they "own".
Com port pins might toggle, video memory get initialized, drives might be
"homed", etc.

Normal stuff

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: How to setup K3 with Signalink-USB ?

My Dell Win7/64 box keys the K3 seven times in a burst on boot up. If the
K3 is already on I just enable TX test until boot up has completed.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 15/11/2012 08:53, KD7YZ Bob wrote:

> Howdy K3' people:
>
> I have another 'Newbie User' Question.
>
> This one regards the fact that I notice when the K3 is already on AND
> I then turn-on the Windows-7 machine, at some point the rig switches
> to Xmit. Per the manual, it goes into "Test" mode, and thus, no RF Power.
>
> No other "Radio" software programs had been "Started" yet.
>
> K3 associated with COM1 which is 38400-8N1/Xon/Xoff
> K3 Baud Rate to 38400
>
> This, for me anyway, repeatable.
>
> While not a problem OF the K3, whatever I haven't set up is annoying.
>
>

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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: K3: How to setup K3 with Signalink-USB ?

In reply to this post by Bob KD7YZ

Bob,

Do you have the K3 set to activate either keying or PTT from the DTR or
RTS lines (CONFIG: PTT-KEY menu set to something other than OFF-OFF)?
If so, the K3 will go into transmit (not TX TEST) when the computer
boots up and tests the RS-232 signal lines.

What the manual says is that *if* you are in that menu entry, then an
active DTR or RTS line will result in the K3 going into TX TEST.
Normally, you will not have that menu item open, and the K3 will go into
real transmit.

To avoid this situation, you can boot the computer before powering the K3,
or switch the K3 to a dummy load while the computer is booting
or manually put the K3 in TX TEST while the computer boots
or disconnect the RS-232 connection.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/15/2012 6:53 AM, KD7YZ Bob wrote:

Vic Rosenthal

Re: K3: How to setup K3 with Signalink-USB ?

In reply to this post by Jeff Herr

If one doesn't do CW via DTR/RTS you can turn off the CONFIG PTT-KEY
(set it to OFF-OFF). Then the boot process won't affect the K3. I
finally got so annoyed by this that I got a WinKey USB. The
computer-generated CW is cleaner, too.

On 11/15/12 5:01 AM, Jeff Herr wrote:

> During system boot as the various drivers load they will assert i/o as they
> initialize the hardware they "own".
> Com port pins might toggle, video memory get initialized, drives might be
> "homed", etc.
>
> Normal stuff
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike Harris
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 04:09
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: How to setup K3 with Signalink-USB ?
>
> My Dell Win7/64 box keys the K3 seven times in a burst on boot up. If the
> K3 is already on I just enable TX test until boot up has completed.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
> On 15/11/2012 08:53, KD7YZ Bob wrote:
>> Howdy K3' people:
>>
>> I have another 'Newbie User' Question.
>>
>> This one regards the fact that I notice when the K3 is already on AND
>> I then turn-on the Windows-7 machine, at some point the rig switches
>> to Xmit. Per the manual, it goes into "Test" mode, and thus, no RF Power.
>>
>> No other "Radio" software programs had been "Started" yet.
>>
>> K3 associated with COM1 which is 38400-8N1/Xon/Xoff
>> K3 Baud Rate to 38400
>>
>> This, for me anyway, repeatable.
>>
>> While not a problem OF the K3, whatever I haven't set up is annoying.
>>
>>

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Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

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Bob KD7YZ

Re: K3: How to setup K3 with Signalink-USB ?

W3fpl & K2VCO tapped out:

> If one doesn't do CW via DTR/RTS you can turn off the CONFIG PTT-KEY
> (set it to OFF-OFF). Then the boot process won't affect the K3. I
> finally got so annoyed by this that I got a WinKey USB. The
> computer-generated CW is cleaner, too.

> Do you have the K3 set to activate either keying or PTT from the DTR or
> RTS lines (CONFIG: PTT-KEY menu set to something other than OFF-OFF

thanks Vic and Don .. I'd forgotten that I DID set that before I had the
interface cable from K3 to SignaLink-USB.

now set to "OFF-OFF"

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73
KD7YZ Bob

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W4JBB

Re: K3: How to setup K3 with Signalink-USB ?

In reply to this post by Mike Harris

To either of you, what is your default sound card?

I ran into a similar problem while experimenting with Win8 - upon
boot-up, the radio would key several times. The SignaLink microphone
was the default mic input. I changed it to something else and that
problem disappeared.

73,
Joel - W4JBB

On 11/15/2012 6:09 AM, Mike Harris wrote:

> My Dell Win7/64 box keys the K3 seven times in a burst on boot up. If
> the K3 is already on I just enable TX test until boot up has completed.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
> On 15/11/2012 08:53, KD7YZ Bob wrote:
>> Howdy K3' people:
>>
>> I have another 'Newbie User' Question.
>>
>> This one regards the fact that I notice when the K3 is already on AND I
>> then turn-on the Windows-7 machine, at some point the rig switches to
>> Xmit. Per the manual, it goes into "Test" mode, and thus, no RF Power.
>>
>> No other "Radio" software programs had been "Started" yet.
>>
>> K3 associated with COM1 which is 38400-8N1/Xon/Xoff
>> K3 Baud Rate to 38400
>>
>> This, for me anyway, repeatable.
>>
>> While not a problem OF the K3, whatever I haven't set up is annoying.
>>
>>
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W4JBB

Re: K3: How to setup K3 with Signalink-USB ?

In reply to this post by Mike Harris

Disregard my previous email. Your situation is different than mine. In
my case, the SignaLink was keying, not the K3. In normal operation, I
let software key my K3 not the SLUSB.

73,
Joel - W4JBB

On 11/15/2012 6:09 AM, Mike Harris wrote:

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: K3: How to setup K3 with Signalink-USB ?

In reply to this post by W4JBB

If you are using a serial cable for PTT (CONFIG:PTT-KEY), Windows
will pulse the DTR and RTS lines during the boot process.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 11/16/2012 5:54 AM, Joel Black wrote:

> To either of you, what is your default sound card?
>
> I ran into a similar problem while experimenting with Win8 - upon
> boot-up, the radio would key several times. The SignaLink microphone
> was the default mic input. I changed it to something else and that
> problem disappeared.
>
> 73,
> Joel - W4JBB
>
> On 11/15/2012 6:09 AM, Mike Harris wrote:
>> My Dell Win7/64 box keys the K3 seven times in a burst on boot up. If
>> the K3 is already on I just enable TX test until boot up has completed.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mike VP8NO
>>
>> On 15/11/2012 08:53, KD7YZ Bob wrote:
>>> Howdy K3' people:
>>>
>>> I have another 'Newbie User' Question.
>>>
>>> This one regards the fact that I notice when the K3 is already on AND I
>>> then turn-on the Windows-7 machine, at some point the rig switches to
>>> Xmit. Per the manual, it goes into "Test" mode, and thus, no RF Power.
>>>
>>> No other "Radio" software programs had been "Started" yet.
>>>
>>> K3 associated with COM1 which is 38400-8N1/Xon/Xoff
>>> K3 Baud Rate to 38400
>>>
>>> This, for me anyway, repeatable.
>>>
>>> While not a problem OF the K3, whatever I haven't set up is annoying.
>>>
>>>
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k5oai

Re: K3: How to setup K3 with Signalink-USB ?

not sure if this is the 'fix' or not
but check out the Config menu
under CW Wght

it says:
Tap 4 to select VOX NOR (default) or AUTO OFF. The AUTO OFF setting
turns CW VOX off on power-up, avoiding accidental keying by attached PCs, etc.

hope it helps