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K3 JT 65-HF transmit?

CX7TT
Hello,

I am attempting to get JT-65HF setup with my K3. I have the software V
1.0.9.3 and microHam MK II. I have followed the setup guide from mH and
JT65. The microHam has both SC and Line LEDs lite.  The software is
decoding signals properly. When I try to xmit, the rig keys but no
output. I have tried Data A with and without VOX...still keys, but no
output.  Is Data A the correct mode or should it be in USB with Vox 'on'?

Tnx for any help rendered...

73
Tom
CX7TT
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Re: K3 JT 65-HF transmit?

mzilmer
Make sure you have the correct audio input selected (LINE IN, or RP / FP microphone).

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 JT 65-HF transmit?

Hello,

I am attempting to get JT-65HF setup with my K3. I have the software V
1.0.9.3 and microHam MK II. I have followed the setup guide from mH and JT65. The microHam has both SC and Line LEDs lite.  The software is decoding signals properly. When I try to xmit, the rig keys but no output. I have tried Data A with and without VOX...still keys, but no output.  Is Data A the correct mode or should it be in USB with Vox 'on'?

Tnx for any help rendered...

73
Tom
CX7TT
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Re: K3 JT 65-HF transmit?

Joe Subich, W4TV-4
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The microHAM guide for WSJT assumes DATA A.  Have you set the "Line In"
level correctly in the K3?  Is MK II configured for data mode and
"Line input (rear)" for FSK/Digital modes?

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 9/10/2012 1:22 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am attempting to get JT-65HF setup with my K3. I have the software V
> 1.0.9.3 and microHam MK II. I have followed the setup guide from mH and
> JT65. The microHam has both SC and Line LEDs lite.  The software is
> decoding signals properly. When I try to xmit, the rig keys but no
> output. I have tried Data A with and without VOX...still keys, but no
> output.  Is Data A the correct mode or should it be in USB with Vox 'on'?
>
> Tnx for any help rendered...
>
> 73
> Tom
> CX7TT
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Re: K3 JT 65-HF transmit?

CX7TT
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Joe and Matt,

Tnx for the input..

Check the Main menu and "Line In" was set...changed to rPL and still no
xmit...keys but nothing comes out...went back to "Line IN" and tried
changing the Line Level from 10 to 30 to 100; still nothing comes out,
although it does key....this is noted by 'SC' "Line" and PTT2 LEDs lite
when rig keys...

K3 works perfectly with Logger 32 and MMTTY and MMVari for RTTY and PSK.

Checked the settings on mH mK II and the key from rear is selected and
"Sound card PTT" is unchecked, just like the mK II set up guide directs...

What else do you recommend that I look for?

73
Tom
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Re: K3 JT 65-HF transmit?

Tony Estep
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:46 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:

> ....What else do you recommend that I look for?....

===========
Tom, make sure your PC is generating audio out. Unplug the audio cable from
the PC's line out and try to transmit. You should hear the audio tones
coming out the speaker.

If your K3 is set correctly and the PC is making audio, then the problem is
that it is getting lost in whatever is between them. Whenever anyone posts
a problem like yours, I always recommend the same thing: first, get it
working with no interface. The K3 does not require a Microham or a
Rigblaster or a Signalink or anything else to do digital modes. Take it
out, hook the K3 to the PC with audio cables and key the K3 via CAT, and
get your digital modes working that way. Then if you wish to re-insert an
interface into your setup, you will more easily pinpoint problems if they
arise.

Tony KT0NY


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Re: K3 JT 65-HF transmit?

vk4tux
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Tony, brilliant advice! I also cant understand why anyone would waste money on an interface for use with a K3 when one is not needed, and I have done every data mode out there incl JT-65 with the K3 direct to PC.

A ext good quality usb soundcard is handy, but that's about it.

A German ham emailed me with a similar problem and I told him the same thing and he was astounded at
the fact the K3 does not need an interface, Everything you need is built in, and now he is a very happy camper.

Take the mickey-ham-ears out and try direct OM.

Adrian ... vk4tux





Tom, make sure your PC is generating audio out. Unplug the audio cable from
the PC's line out and try to transmit. You should hear the audio tones
coming out the speaker.

If your K3 is set correctly and the PC is making audio, then the problem is
that it is getting lost in whatever is between them. Whenever anyone posts
a problem like yours, I always recommend the same thing: first, get it
working with no interface. The K3 does not require a Microham or a
Rigblaster or a Signalink or anything else to do digital modes. Take it
out, hook the K3 to the PC with audio cables and key the K3 via CAT, and
get your digital modes working that way. Then if you wish to re-insert an
interface into your setup, you will more easily pinpoint problems if they
arise.

Tony KT0NY

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Re: K3 JT 65-HF transmit?

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

 > Take the mickey-ham-ears out and try direct OM.

First. the microHAM microKEYER II is a high quality external sound card
with lower noise floor and higher dynamic range than standard OEM sound
cards in many computers and better performance than the commodity USB
sound cards used by many - including some of the 'made for ham radio'
USB sound products.  In addition, most microHAM interfaces provide USB
to serial rig control interfaces, many include a K1EL WinKey based
keyer, *true FSK* support rather than a jitter prone software hack
and several other station control options (including isolated Icom
CI-V transceive emulation which allows automatic band switching of the
Icom PW-1 from most non-Icom transceivers).

There is no reason for you to be disagreeable about other users choices
in accessories.  While you may find something unnecessary, others may
have good reasons for using them.

73,

    ... Joe Subich, W4TV
        microHAM America, LLC.
        http://www.microHAM-USA.com
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM


On 9/10/2012 6:09 PM, vk4tux wrote:

> Tony, brilliant advice! I also cant understand why anyone would waste money
> on an interface for use with a K3 when one is not needed, and I have done
> every data mode out there incl JT-65 with the K3 direct to PC.
>
> A ext good quality usb soundcard is handy, but that's about it.
>
> A German ham emailed me with a similar problem and I told him the same thing
> and he was astounded at
> the fact the K3 does not need an interface, Everything you need is built in,
> and now he is a very happy camper.
>
> Take the mickey-ham-ears out and try direct OM.
>
> Adrian ... vk4tux
>
>
>
>
>
> Tom, make sure your PC is generating audio out. Unplug the audio cable from
> the PC's line out and try to transmit. You should hear the audio tones
> coming out the speaker.
>
> If your K3 is set correctly and the PC is making audio, then the problem is
> that it is getting lost in whatever is between them. Whenever anyone posts
> a problem like yours, I always recommend the same thing: first, get it
> working with no interface. The K3 does not require a Microham or a
> Rigblaster or a Signalink or anything else to do digital modes. Take it
> out, hook the K3 to the PC with audio cables and key the K3 via CAT, and
> get your digital modes working that way. Then if you wish to re-insert an
> interface into your setup, you will more easily pinpoint problems if they
> arise.
>
> Tony KT0NY
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: K3 JT 65-HF transmit?

Joe Subich, W4TV-4
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Tom,

The K3 keeps separate input selections and input gain by mode ...

Make sure the K3 is in DATA A, and while in that mode make sure
Line In is selected and check the input level (mic gain).  The
menu "Line Level" is receive - not transmit.

Also make sure you have selected "Line Input (rear)" for FSK/DIGITAL
in Router's audio switching tab and confirm that you have selected
"Headset Earphone (microHAM CODEC)" as the "Sound Output Device" on
the "Station Setup" tab in the JT65-HF configuration dialog (assuming
you are using JT65-HF and not WSJT).

If you can run PSK31/63 and MFSK with MMVARI there should be no
difference in running JT65-HF.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 9/10/2012 5:46 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Joe and Matt,
>
> Tnx for the input..
>
> Check the Main menu and "Line In" was set...changed to rPL and still no
> xmit...keys but nothing comes out...went back to "Line IN" and tried
> changing the Line Level from 10 to 30 to 100; still nothing comes out,
> although it does key....this is noted by 'SC' "Line" and PTT2 LEDs lite
> when rig keys...
>
> K3 works perfectly with Logger 32 and MMTTY and MMVari for RTTY and PSK.
>
> Checked the settings on mH mK II and the key from rear is selected and
> "Sound card PTT" is unchecked, just like the mK II set up guide directs...
>
> What else do you recommend that I look for?
>
> 73
> Tom
> CX7TT
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Re: K3 JT 65-HF transmit?

vk4tux
This post was updated on .
In reply to this post by CX7TT
`Comments interweaved;



First. the microHAM microKEYER II is a high quality external sound card
with lower noise floor and higher dynamic range than standard OEM sound
cards in many computers and better performance than the commodity USB
sound cards used by many - including some of the 'made for ham radio'
USB sound products.

`There was no question on your product quality.

 In addition, most microHAM interfaces provide USB
to serial rig control interfaces, many include a K1EL WinKey based
keyer, *true FSK* support rather than a jitter prone software hack
and several other station control options (including isolated Icom
CI-V transceive emulation which allows automatic band switching of the
Icom PW-1 from most non-Icom transceivers).

`That's nice.

There is no reason for you to be disagreeable about other users choices
in accessories.  While you may find something unnecessary, others may
have good reasons for using them.

`See "on an interface for use with a K3 when one is not needed" "needed" being the keyword,
`hence when it is not needed then it is not necessary. There is no "disagreeable" on my part.
`Some ops buy this stuff thinking it it is necessary when it is not, and do not realise the effort Elecraft `have put into the K3 `built-in isolated audio interface.

`You outlined the specific area's where the Microham may be useful splendidly.  

`You represent Microham Joe and good for you, but please do not see that as a critique on the device `itself.

`73
`Adrian ... vk4tux
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Re: K3 JT 65-HF transmit?

Jim Brown-10
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On 9/10/2012 2:46 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> What else do you recommend that I look for?

Look at the Windows PLAYBACK Mixer and see if the stereo Pan pot is
shifted to one side.  When I use N1MM to run SO2R for a SSB or RTTY
contest, it moves the Pan pot to one side or the other to send my voice
messages to left or right radio. But it doesn't turn it back to the
center when it stops.  This will happen every time you're using N1MM. I
suspect other contest loggers do the same.  Also, either Windoze, or
other Windoze programs may be manipulating the Playback Mixer.

Playback Mixer LEVELS may also be the problem.  JT65-HF, and other
digital software, uses the WAV input to the mixer, so look at its level,
and also at the MASTER level control. Neither should be all the way up
or all the way down, both should be something like 2/3 up.

The thing I'm puzzling about is that you say you're using VOX and it's
going into transmit, which means you're getting audio into the radio.  
OR -- are you using BOTH VOX and PTT?  Try VOX ONLY, and see if the
radio transmits.  If it does, it's getting audio.

Another idea -- for a test, plug headphones into the computer headphone
jack and see if you hear the JT65 tones when the software is sending.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: K3 JT 65-HF transmit?

Edward R Cole
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Be sure your K3 is in DATA-A mode and not SSB.  I lost a bit of time
the other night trying to find out why I had no modulation in JT65
when I noted I was on a freq. set to SSB.  Switched to DATA-A and the
modulation just popped up.  I use straight audio in/out from my K3
and direct RS232 control of PTT.  I use a emu0202 external soundcard
which makes manual setting of Tx audio simple (just twist a
knob).  Set meter to read ALC and adjust Tx audio so four bars are
steady with fifth bar flickering with modulation.

73, Ed - KL7UW

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Re: K3 JT 65-HF transmit?

Kjeld Holm
I suppose DATA-A mode is fine but I know that DATA-R is also working fine.
It seems that I have to have a display frequency of x.x77 instead of the
official x.x76 to have most stations within my pass band.

 

Best regards

OZ1CCM Kjeld

 

 

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 JT 65-HF transmit?

 

Be sure your K3 is in DATA-A mode and not SSB.  I lost a bit of time the
other night trying to find out why I had no modulation in JT65 when I noted
I was on a freq. set to SSB.  Switched to DATA-A and the modulation just
popped up.  I use straight audio in/out from my K3 and direct RS232 control
of PTT.  I use a emu0202 external soundcard which makes manual setting of Tx
audio simple (just twist a knob).  Set meter to read ALC and adjust Tx audio
so four bars are steady with fifth bar flickering with modulation.

 

73, Ed - KL7UW

 

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