K3: K-pod uses
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K-pod arrived, various firmware installed, and all is well. I have built
macros for most of the buttons and find the device to be a great addition to the Genovation keypad and my overall K-Line system. Thank you Elecraft for a well designed tool for my user pleasure and convenience. Regarding macros - their application is only hindered by the user's imagination. It is so easy to chain them together to make the K3 do nearly anything. As with all computers, the K3 will do exactly as told. If the macro pieces are programmed in an incorrect order, the macro will not operate as planned. Bill W2BLC K-Line ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I am trying to decide on ordering the K-Pod but struggling to sort out the possible overlap between the K-Pod, and using a Genovation keypad or a software suite like Win4K3. Using the keypad in conjunction with a P3 allows me to activate many macros with the touch of one key. I also can program many macros in Win4K3 as well as perform almost any K3 button or knob function and change the VFO's with the touch of a mouse.
So would be interested in any observations about what the K-Pod can do over and above the other two choices, to help me decide on ordering the K-Pod Tnx Paul kc2nyu |
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Paul,
If you are completely comfortable with mouse tuning and Win4K3, then you may not find any advantage for the K-Pod. I do not like mouse tuning, and am more comfortable with a tuning knob. Having the knob next to the keyboard is especially nice if you are mainly using the keyboard - you do not have to move very far from the keyboard to get to the knob. The K-Pod can be placed either to the left or right of the keyboard. The buttons on the K-Pod can activate up to 16 K3 macros. K3 Utility now allows 16 macros to be created/edited and stored in the K3. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/13/2016 11:07 AM, KC2NYU via Elecraft wrote: > I am trying to decide on ordering the K-Pod but struggling to sort out the > possible overlap between the K-Pod, and using a Genovation keypad or a > software suite like Win4K3. Using the keypad in conjunction with a P3 allows > me to activate many macros with the touch of one key. I also can program > many macros in Win4K3 as well as perform almost any K3 button or knob > function and change the VFO's with the touch of a mouse. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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In reply to this post by w2eck
IMHO, the primary advantage of the K-Pod is the weighted knob and corresponding 400-count ball-bearing optical encoder. It's the exact same knob / encoder used with the K3. You can tune the K3 remotely (up to the length of the cable) with the exact same "feel" as if you were turning the VFO A knob on the K3. Of course, in order to pull this off, the K-Pod must seamlessly support 400 counts per revolution (which is still TBD). You're absolutely correct in that the P3 supports up to 50 macros. In conjunction with a keyboard, you have macros coming out of your ears. In this scenario, the K-Pod programmable switches are definitely secondary. Not to mention the fact (as I understand it), the K-Pod won't control the P3 markers. 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO |
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In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm
Don - thanks for the info, helpful.
73Paul From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> To: KC2NYU <[hidden email]>; [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: K-pod uses Paul, If you are completely comfortable with mouse tuning and Win4K3, then you may not find any advantage for the K-Pod. I do not like mouse tuning, and am more comfortable with a tuning knob. Having the knob next to the keyboard is especially nice if you are mainly using the keyboard - you do not have to move very far from the keyboard to get to the knob. The K-Pod can be placed either to the left or right of the keyboard. The buttons on the K-Pod can activate up to 16 K3 macros. K3 Utility now allows 16 macros to be created/edited and stored in the K3. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/13/2016 11:07 AM, KC2NYU via Elecraft wrote: > I am trying to decide on ordering the K-Pod but struggling to sort out the > possible overlap between the K-Pod, and using a Genovation keypad or a > software suite like Win4K3. Using the keypad in conjunction with a P3 allows > me to activate many macros with the touch of one key. I also can program > many macros in Win4K3 as well as perform almost any K3 button or knob > function and change the VFO's with the touch of a mouse. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I am using both the 48 key Genovation and the K-pod. Everything to do
with tuning is on the K-pod along with a mute macro also. All other things are on the keypad - including direct frequency entry, some operational macros, and a few net frequencies. I only touch the K3 when turning on/off. Bill W2BLC K-Line ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Forgot to mention: No need of a computer when running the K3 (except
when programming the key pad). Bill W2BLC K-Line ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I think each operator has his/her own reason(s) for wanting a KPod . and
it's likely that those reasons will vary considerably. In my case, I want it for DXing. I'm a serious DXer .. And am in hog heaven when I'm trying to break one of those huge major DXpedition pileups .. Not the little pileups . but a big one when there are so many callers that I really don't expect to get through .. And, you know, with the DX station's listening range at 20 khz or more. Yes, it is true that I do not really need a K3/KPod to accomplish that .. It can also be done with my 40 year old TS520S /remote VFO .. Or with any of umpteen other transceivers for that matter. But it's more fun and lots easier to accomplish with all the right equipment . which, in my book, includes a subreceiver equipped K3 or K3S, a P3 .. A 1500 watt amp (sorry Elecraft I prefer my robust Alpha 1500 watt amp) .. And now I'm adding the KPod to that mix. To me, the VFO B knob has always been a major weakness of the K3 .. It doesn't spin so it doesn't have a "spin dimple" . it's small .. It's clunky when compared to second VFO knobs on most other high end transceivers . but of course the small size of the K3, which is also a significant virtue, is the limiting factor here . I have never been fond of the K3's small VFO B knob . but . the new KPod has now solved that problem. I do have my 16 KPod function buttons programmed like everyone else .. with a few macros and several more simple single command functions just so they'll be near my hand . but the one I'll be using most is just a simple F8 tap to transmit my callsign (CW or SSB) to crack those big pileups. I'll be using the KPod knob to tune through the pileup trying to figure the DX's listening pattern .... and will finally be able to spin the knob when necessary . and when the time is right I'll be tapping that F8 button to send my callsign. Now . if we only had some DXpeditionp pileups to bust.. Looks pretty bleak on the near horizon in that regard. Don, N5LZ -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:19 AM To: KC2NYU; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: K-pod uses Paul, If you are completely comfortable with mouse tuning and Win4K3, then you may not find any advantage for the K-Pod. I do not like mouse tuning, and am more comfortable with a tuning knob. Having the knob next to the keyboard is especially nice if you are mainly using the keyboard - you do not have to move very far from the keyboard to get to the knob. The K-Pod can be placed either to the left or right of the keyboard. The buttons on the K-Pod can activate up to 16 K3 macros. K3 Utility now allows 16 macros to be created/edited and stored in the K3. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/13/2016 11:07 AM, KC2NYU via Elecraft wrote: > I am trying to decide on ordering the K-Pod but struggling to sort out > the possible overlap between the K-Pod, and using a Genovation keypad > or a software suite like Win4K3. Using the keypad in conjunction with > a P3 allows me to activate many macros with the touch of one key. I > also can program many macros in Win4K3 as well as perform almost any > K3 button or knob function and change the VFO's with the touch of a mouse. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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