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K4KGG

K3, KPA500 KAT500 Firmware Upgrades

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My K3, KPA500, KAT500, two USB soundcards and an SDR are all
cabled together and playing well. I would like to upgrade the firmware
in all 3 K line devices. Is it necessary to completely or partially
remove cables before attaching my computer via USB - serial port cable
to each K line device in turn and doing its firmware update? Removing
and reassembling the cables is possible, but not trivial.

K4KGG, Larry
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Dick Dievendorff-4

Re: K3, KPA500 KAT500 Firmware Upgrades

I have used a four-port USB to Serial Adapter (purchased on Amazon, from
Gearmo), along with two KXSER cables for the 9-pin DIN to 3.5mm TRS
conversion.

What I use now is a Edgeport 8-port USB to Serial adapter I found on eBay at
a very attractive price.

I need to be able to talk via RS-232 to any and all of the devices without
recabling. Part of that is the needs of my job, but I'd want to do that way
even if it weren't my job...

73 de Dick, K6KR

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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:11 AM
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3, KPA500 KAT500 Firmware Upgrades

Group -

My K3, KPA500, KAT500, two USB soundcards and an SDR are all cabled
together and playing well. I would like to upgrade the firmware in all 3 K
line devices. Is it necessary to completely or partially remove cables
before attaching my computer via USB - serial port cable to each K line
device in turn and doing its firmware update? Removing and reassembling the
cables is possible, but not trivial.

K4KGG, Larry
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: K3, KPA500 KAT500 Firmware Upgrades

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Larry,

You *should* be able to do the firmware upgrades with the cabling in place.
Of course, if you have any difficulty, the first order of
troubleshooting is to isolate the gear that is producing problems.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/25/2014 10:11 AM, Larry Libsch wrote:

> Group -
>
> My K3, KPA500, KAT500, two USB soundcards and an SDR are all
> cabled together and playing well. I would like to upgrade the firmware
> in all 3 K line devices. Is it necessary to completely or partially
> remove cables before attaching my computer via USB - serial port cable
> to each K line device in turn and doing its firmware update? Removing
> and reassembling the cables is possible, but not trivial.
>
> K4KGG, Larry
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Cady, Fred

Re: K3, KPA500 KAT500 Firmware Upgrades

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The Edgeport 8-port is a great way to go but a 4-port is good too. I use mine to connect the K3/P3, KPA, KX3/KXPA, KAT, KRC2, and FSK Keying for the k3.
CHEERS,
Fred KE7X

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dick Dievendorff
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 8:48 AM
To: 'Larry Libsch'; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3, KPA500 KAT500 Firmware Upgrades

I have used a four-port USB to Serial Adapter (purchased on Amazon, from Gearmo), along with two KXSER cables for the 9-pin DIN to 3.5mm TRS conversion.

What I use now is a Edgeport 8-port USB to Serial adapter I found on eBay at a very attractive price.

I need to be able to talk via RS-232 to any and all of the devices without recabling. Part of that is the needs of my job, but I'd want to do that way even if it weren't my job...

73 de Dick, K6KR

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3, KPA500 KAT500 Firmware Upgrades

Group -

My K3, KPA500, KAT500, two USB soundcards and an SDR are all cabled together and playing well. I would like to upgrade the firmware in all 3 K line devices. Is it necessary to completely or partially remove cables before attaching my computer via USB - serial port cable to each K line device in turn and doing its firmware update? Removing and reassembling the cables is possible, but not trivial.

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Doug Person-3

Re: K3, KPA500 KAT500 Firmware Upgrades

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There is also a Siig brand usb to serial port unit available in 2, 4 or
8 serial ports that is far less expensive and works very well.

SIIG *-Port USB to RS-232 Serial Adapter Hub
<http://www.amazon.com/SIIG-8-Port-RS-232-Adapter-JU-SC0211-S1/dp/B005PAJV5A/ref=pd_cp_e_1>

73, Doug -- K0DXV

On 3/25/2014 8:47 AM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
> Edgeport 8-port USB to Serial adapter

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Dick Dievendorff-4

Re: K3, KPA500 KAT500 Firmware Upgrades

That's about twice what I paid for an Edgeport 8, new in box, on eBay.

One advantage of the four port Gearmo (for under $50) is that it terminates in male DB9 plugs that go right onto the back of the P3 and KPA500, no added RS232 jumpers needed. I did need KXSER jumpers for the 3.5mm Elecraft devices: KAT500, KX3, KXPA100, XG3. W2, K144XV.

Dick, K6KR

> On Mar 25, 2014, at 8:28, Doug Person <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> There is also a Siig brand usb to serial port unit available in 2, 4 or 8 serial ports that is far less expensive and works very well.
>
> SIIG *-Port USB to RS-232 Serial Adapter Hub <http://www.amazon.com/SIIG-8-Port-RS-232-Adapter-JU-SC0211-S1/dp/B005PAJV5A/ref=pd_cp_e_1>
>
> 73, Doug -- K0DXV
>
>> On 3/25/2014 8:47 AM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
>> Edgeport 8-port USB to Serial adapter
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W2RMS

Re: K3, KPA500 KAT500 Firmware Upgrades

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What exactly is the function of this device? Does it give you 8 separate serial ports? Or is it just a hub? Is it somehow different from plugging 8 USB-to-serial cables into a computer?
Thanks!

Slava Baytalskiy
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On Mar 25, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Doug Person <[hidden email]> wrote:

> There is also a Siig brand usb to serial port unit available in 2, 4 or 8 serial ports that is far less expensive and works very well.
>
> SIIG *-Port USB to RS-232 Serial Adapter Hub <http://www.amazon.com/SIIG-8-Port-RS-232-Adapter-JU-SC0211-S1/dp/B005PAJV5A/ref=pd_cp_e_1>
>
> 73, Doug -- K0DXV
>
> On 3/25/2014 8:47 AM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
>> Edgeport 8-port USB to Serial adapter
>
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Buck - k4ia

Re: K3, KPA500 KAT500 Firmware Upgrades

You only plug one USB cable into the computer and the device creates x
number of virtual serial ports.

Here's another one that has 4 serial outlets
http://www.amazon.com/GearMo%C2%AE-36inch-Windows-Certified-Drivers/dp/B004ETDC8K/ref=sr_1_29?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1395768623&sr=1-29&keywords=usb+serial+adapter

Buck
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On 3/25/2014 12:10 PM, Slava Baytalskiy wrote:

> What exactly is the function of this device? Does it give you 8 separate serial ports? Or is it just a hub? Is it somehow different from plugging 8 USB-to-serial cables into a computer?
> Thanks!
>
> Slava Baytalskiy
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> W2RMS
>
> On Mar 25, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Doug Person <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> There is also a Siig brand usb to serial port unit available in 2, 4 or 8 serial ports that is far less expensive and works very well.
>>
>> SIIG *-Port USB to RS-232 Serial Adapter Hub <http://www.amazon.com/SIIG-8-Port-RS-232-Adapter-JU-SC0211-S1/dp/B005PAJV5A/ref=pd_cp_e_1>
>>
>> 73, Doug -- K0DXV
>>
>> On 3/25/2014 8:47 AM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
>>> Edgeport 8-port USB to Serial adapter
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Doug Person-3

Re: K3, KPA500 KAT500 Firmware Upgrades

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Yes. Exactly. 8 separate serial ports fed from a single USB port.
There are many different types of these devices. The one I use has one
USB connector and 4 cables with DB9 connectors already attached - which
makes it very convenient to hook up everything requiring a serial port
with one cable. I think it cost about $50 on Amazon and other places.

73, Doug -- K0DXV

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David Fleming-2

Re: K3, KPA500 KAT500 Firmware Upgrades

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+1 for the Gearmo 4-port. It is FTDI based and works flawlessly on OS X. Hard to beat for < $50. I use it in tandem with a couple of KUSB's and KXUSB's to connect all of my Elecraft gear to my Mac. No need to do any cable swapping. Everything has it's own, dedicated USB/Serial adapter!

http://goo.gl/j6f72k

David, W4SMT

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That's about twice what I paid for an Edgeport 8, new in box, on eBay.

One advantage of the four port Gearmo (for under $50) is that it terminates in male DB9 plugs that go right onto the back of the P3 and KPA500, no added RS232 jumpers needed. I did need KXSER jumpers for the 3.5mm Elecraft devices: KAT500, KX3, KXPA100, XG3. W2, K144XV.

Dick, K6KR

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