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The reviewer (Solardx, no call sign) gives a very bad transmitter (SSB)
review. He claims lots of splatter and ineffective speech processing as well as high IMD products. I have yet to hear a K3 but no one else has noticed such problems? Vy 73, Bob WU5T/DJ0MBC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1294 - Release Date: 22-Feb-08 18:39 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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At 03:29:43 EST on Sun 24 Feb 2008 Bob DeHaney (WU5T/DJ0MBC) wrote ...
The reviewer (Solardx, no call sign) gives a very bad transmitter (SSB) review. He claims lots of splatter and ineffective speech processing as well as high IMD products. I have yet to hear a K3 but no one else has noticed such problems? -- Since the IMD products only occur over 10 W he did mention that his PA might be defective, but he didn't mention any attempt to verify whether or not it was or to swap it out via a replacement. I'm certain Elecraft would be very interested in having a look at it. 73, Gary KI4GGX _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hi all, We have a proverb in Italy: To suspect of someone is a sin, but usually there is substance in it. (I'll be glad to hear the corresponding English proverb, if existing). By sheer chance, that review will ruin the "5 over 5" record previously held by K3. By sheer chance, the reviewer does not sign with a call sign, and does not submit his name and address in his Eham profile. To me it looks like an alien, or MAYBE a close relative to some other Ham Radio related Brand. It looks like an unsigned letter to me; and the folks at Eham should not allow anonymous posting, at least on my opinion. Paolo Gramigna, IK4YNG and formerly I4GGP from Italy. My address is on QRZ.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Bob DeHaney wrote:
> The reviewer (Solardx, no call sign) gives a very bad transmitter (SSB) > review. He claims lots of splatter and ineffective speech processing as > well as high IMD products. I have yet to hear a K3 but no one else has > noticed such problems? > I am always suspicious of anonymous reviews. I have no such problems with my K3, it works as expected. I am still not convinced by the tx 'punch' discussion either. I will fully agree that the tx audio never sounds processed. Personally I do not want this. I am simply not convinced that the audio should sound this way. To me, the audio should be clean and as free of distortion products as possible. Just listen to VP6DX and you will hear what I mean. Their audio has been superb even at low signal levels, always readable and simply 'out there'. What more does one need? Would the owner of that pseudonym on eHam care to share his views on this list? 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I think he's getting RF into his installation, maybe through the power
cabling? I wonder whether his is driving an after-burner? I do not suspect a malicious posting - even with the best will in the world things can go wrong. Simon Brown, HB9DRV -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ian J Maude" <[hidden email]> > I am always suspicious of anonymous reviews. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I believe the closest English proverb would be "Trust but verify".
-----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of paolo.gramigna Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:55 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: R: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM Hi all, We have a proverb in Italy: To suspect of someone is a sin, but usually there is substance in it. (I'll be glad to hear the corresponding English proverb, if existing). By sheer chance, that review will ruin the "5 over 5" record previously held by K3. By sheer chance, the reviewer does not sign with a call sign, and does not submit his name and address in his Eham profile. To me it looks like an alien, or MAYBE a close relative to some other Ham Radio related Brand. It looks like an unsigned letter to me; and the folks at Eham should not allow anonymous posting, at least on my opinion. Paolo Gramigna, IK4YNG and formerly I4GGP from Italy. My address is on QRZ.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hi Bob,
> I have yet to hear a K3 but no one else has noticed such problems? A small yes and a big no. Several BCC members (DD5FZ, DL6RAI, DK4YJ, DG7RO usw.) feel that the speech processor is not as "effective" as it could be and that for contesting the modulation is too "nice" and needs more "punch". Apart from this minor gripe (I just got home from CQWW 160m SSB) K3 #67 does very very well indeed in SSB, TX as well as RX. See: <http://www.bavarian-contest-club.de/projects/K3.pdf> or <http://www.bavarian-contest-club.de/projects/K3_english.pdf> <happy_dance> We worked VP6DX on 160m in SSB after our local sunrise... </happy_dance> vy 73 de toby -- DD5FZ (ex 4n6fz, dj7mgq, dg5mgq, dd5fz) K2/10 #885 K2/100 #3248 K3/100 #67 DOK C12, BCC, DL-QRP-AG, JN58td _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Or perhaps "Where there's smoke, there's fire" ??
73, Jerry K3BZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brett Howard" <[hidden email]> To: "'paolo.gramigna'" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 4:15 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM >I believe the closest English proverb would be "Trust but verify". > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of paolo.gramigna > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:55 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: R: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM > > > > Hi all, > We have a proverb in Italy: To suspect of someone is a sin, but usually > there is substance in it. (I'll be glad to hear the corresponding English > proverb, if existing). > > By sheer chance, that review will ruin the "5 over 5" record previously > held > by K3. By sheer chance, the reviewer does not sign with a call sign, and > does not submit his name and address in his Eham profile. To me it looks > like an alien, or MAYBE a close relative to some other Ham Radio related > Brand. > > It looks like an unsigned letter to me; and the folks at Eham should not > allow anonymous posting, at least on my opinion. > > Paolo Gramigna, IK4YNG and formerly I4GGP from Italy. My address is on > QRZ.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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For a new rig to be so bad, he will presumably want it repaired. My first
thought would be to email Elecraft not Eham. David G3UNA > The reviewer (Solardx, no call sign) gives a very bad transmitter (SSB) > review. He claims lots of splatter and ineffective speech processing as > well as high IMD products. I have yet to hear a K3 but no one else has > noticed such problems? > > Vy 73, Bob WU5T/DJ0MBC > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hello Group,
When I read the reviews in eham, I deliberately look at all those with poor remarks and low scores. Through the adverse comments, I try to figure out whether there are something which I consider further. It is not necessary that all the bad remarks are valid but they give us chances to re-think. 73 Johnny Siu VR2XMC Yahoo! 網上安全攻略，教你如何防範黑客! 請前往http://hk.promo.yahoo.com/security/index.html 了解更多。 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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At 08:56:21 EST on Sun 24 Feb 2008 Paul Ferguson (K5ESW) wrote ...
... Surely there are others out there with a K3 and the equipment necessary to repeat his tests. The outcome of the tests will determine if Solardx's results are typical. I await the results while I wait for my K3 (wave 3). -- Paul, Don't hold your breath! FYI, I work at an aerospace manufacturing facility and we can't even duplicate EMI tests for which we have detailed test descriptions. It would be next impossible to configure a setup like his, even if we had a detailed description of its configuration. The fact that we don't have any description ensures that it won't happen! That said, other K3 owners could attempt to duplicate what he did and report back with a detailed description of their test setup (including filter settings and options) and their results. BTW, personally I don't like the idea of transmitting into another rig. 73, Gary KI4GGX _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Eham reviews are a great idea ,But the problem is folks are posting reviews
that either just got the product ,and as I have seen in one product a few months ago did not even own the product they were commenting on.I think the reviews would be worth alot more on Eham if people actually waiting 6 months plus *BEFORE* posting a review on ANY product ,this includes reviewing the K3. I love my K3 as much as the rest of you that have received yours already and will add comments at some point on eham,but it will be mid summer at the earliest , Just my 2 cents worth! 73 Gary W4GNS >> > I am always suspicious of anonymous reviews. I have no such problems with > my K3, it works as expected. I am still not convinced by the tx 'punch' > discussion either. I will fully agree that the tx audio never sounds > processed. Personally I do not want this. I am simply not convinced that > the audio should sound this way. To me, the audio should _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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The reviewer (Solardx) gives the results of a test he ran on his K3. Surely
there are others out there with a K3 and the equipment necessary to repeat his tests. The outcome of the tests will determine if Solardx's results are typical. I await the results while I wait for my K3 (wave 3). 73, Paul K5ESW _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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The problem with eHam reviews is not the reviews themselves, but that
folks get too caught up in caring about other people's mostly subject impressions/opinions. Remember: Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but that doesn't mean that everyone's opinion should be given equal weight. Now, back to assembling my K3. Anyone else have clearance problems with the KBPF3 standoff, and the torroid? 73, Steve NN4X On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Gary Scott <[hidden email]> wrote: > Eham reviews are a great idea ,But the problem is folks are posting reviews > that either just got the product ,and as I have seen in one product a few > months ago did not even own the product they were commenting on.I think the > reviews would be worth alot more on Eham if people actually waiting 6 months > plus *BEFORE* posting a review on ANY product ,this includes reviewing the > K3. I love my K3 as much as the rest of you that have received yours already > and will add comments at some point on eham,but it will be mid summer at the > earliest , Just my 2 cents worth! > 73 Gary W4GNS > >> > > I am always suspicious of anonymous reviews. I have no such problems with > > my K3, it works as expected. I am still not convinced by the tx 'punch' > > discussion either. I will fully agree that the tx audio never sounds > > processed. Personally I do not want this. I am simply not convinced that > > the audio should sound this way. To me, the audio should > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In a message dated 2/24/08 8:57:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes: > The reviewer (Solardx) gives the results of a test he ran on his K3. With all due respect.... We don't know if the reviewer has a problem K3 or a problem test setup. For that matter, we don't know if the reviewer even has a K3! IMHO, 99%+ of eham.net "reviews" are not reviews at all, (in the sense of objectice reports) but are really just personal opinions. In some cases they are based on very little experience with the rig, too. Anybody with internet access can write an eham review on anything. I could go on eham and say the IC-7800 is ten times better than the K3 - even though I've never seen nor used either rig! "Solardx" is completely anonymous - no call, no name, no K3 serial number. Yet his rating affects the score as much as somebody who's got one of the first ones and has many hours of experience testing and using it, and who signs his name to his words. 73 de Jim, N2EY ************** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, [hidden email] wrote:
> In a message dated 2/24/08 8:57:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [hidden email] writes: > > >> The reviewer (Solardx) gives the results of a test he ran on his K3. > > "Solardx" is completely anonymous - no call, no name, no K3 serial number. > Yet his rating affects the score as much as somebody who's got one of the first > ones and has many hours of experience testing and using it, and who signs his > name to his words. It was me, I was hoping to clear out the queue before I ordered mine. (I'm KIDDING.) -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - [hidden email] BSEE(6/86) + BSChem(3/95) + BAEnglish(8/95) + MSCS(8/03) + $2.50 = latte _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Steve,
If the torroid is rubbing against the standoff and you cannot "gently" adjust the torroid so that it is not touching, place a piece of heatshring tubing over the standoff. Touching is not a problem provided there is no wearing of the enamal on the torroid. Putting the heatshring over the standoff will avoid any problem even if the enamal is worn. 73 Greg AB7R -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of S Sacco Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:23 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM The problem with eHam reviews is not the reviews themselves, but that folks get too caught up in caring about other people's mostly subject impressions/opinions. Remember: Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but that doesn't mean that everyone's opinion should be given equal weight. Now, back to assembling my K3. Anyone else have clearance problems with the KBPF3 standoff, and the torroid? 73, Steve NN4X On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Gary Scott <[hidden email]> wrote: > Eham reviews are a great idea ,But the problem is folks are posting reviews > that either just got the product ,and as I have seen in one product a few > months ago did not even own the product they were commenting on.I think the > reviews would be worth alot more on Eham if people actually waiting 6 months > plus *BEFORE* posting a review on ANY product ,this includes reviewing the > K3. I love my K3 as much as the rest of you that have received yours already > and will add comments at some point on eham,but it will be mid summer at the > earliest , Just my 2 cents worth! > 73 Gary W4GNS > >> > > I am always suspicious of anonymous reviews. I have no such problems with > > my K3, it works as expected. I am still not convinced by the tx 'punch' > > discussion either. I will fully agree that the tx audio never sounds > > processed. Personally I do not want this. I am simply not convinced that > > the audio should sound this way. To me, the audio should > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Re: K3 Clearance between KBPF3 standoff and toroid.
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Been there, noticed it, believed in Elecraft mojo, adjusted the position
slightly, continued, made 1500 Qs since. No prob. One man's challenge, another man's major disaster!! Chris G3SJJ Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > Yes, I spoke with Wayne about it recently after other builders noticed the > toroid touched the standoff. > > Wayne said there's no problem with the toroid touching that standoff - it > will not affect performance. > > He also said it's okay to adjust its position slightly if there's enough > lead to allow that. > > Ron AC7AC > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of S Sacco > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:23 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM > > > The problem with eHam reviews is not the reviews themselves, but that folks > get too caught up in caring about other people's mostly subject > impressions/opinions. > > Remember: Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but that doesn't mean that > everyone's opinion should be given equal weight. > > Now, back to assembling my K3. Anyone else have clearance problems with the > KBPF3 standoff, and the torroid? > > 73, > > Steve NN4X > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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No disaster here.
I applied three wraps of Scotch 33 electrical tape to the standoff, and continued. 73, Steve NN4X On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 3:17 PM, G3SJJ <[hidden email]> wrote: > Been there, noticed it, believed in Elecraft mojo, adjusted the position > slightly, continued, made 1500 Qs since. No prob. > > One man's challenge, another man's major disaster!! > > Chris G3SJJ > > > > > > Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > > Yes, I spoke with Wayne about it recently after other builders noticed the > > toroid touched the standoff. > > > > Wayne said there's no problem with the toroid touching that standoff - it > > will not affect performance. > > > > He also said it's okay to adjust its position slightly if there's enough > > lead to allow that. > > > > Ron AC7AC > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [hidden email] > > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of S Sacco > > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:23 AM > > To: [hidden email] > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM > > > > > > The problem with eHam reviews is not the reviews themselves, but that folks > > get too caught up in caring about other people's mostly subject > > impressions/opinions. > > > > Remember: Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but that doesn't mean that > > everyone's opinion should be given equal weight. > > > > Now, back to assembling my K3. Anyone else have clearance problems with the > > KBPF3 standoff, and the torroid? > > > > 73, > > > > Steve NN4X > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Post to: [hidden email] > > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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