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Gary Smith

K3 & Logic 8

My official hi to the group,

I just placed my order for a K3 today so the gears are in motion.

Anyone using Logic 8 with the K3? It looks like Logic is set up for
the K2 but I didn't see anything for the K3.

Or are the commands the same for both K2 & K3?

Thanks!

Gary
KA1J
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Phil and Christina

RE: K3 & Logic 8

I use Logic 8 with my K3. Choose the K2 setting, but it works fine. Reads
radio data as you log and allows some rig control from the program too. I
don't do anything fancy with it, but it seems fine for the basic operations.
Logic 8 also has contest log forms for many contests. I used the SS form
for the SSB contest recently.

Phil
NS7P

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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:43 PM
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 & Logic 8

My official hi to the group,

I just placed my order for a K3 today so the gears are in motion.

Anyone using Logic 8 with the K3? It looks like Logic is set up for
the K2 but I didn't see anything for the K3.

Or are the commands the same for both K2 & K3?

Thanks!

Gary
KA1J
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Greg - AB7R

RE: K3 & Logic 8

There's a problem when clicking on spots in Logic 8. I often find it
necessary to click the spot two times. The first time
sets the freq OK but it does not always set the mode. Clicking a spot a
second time sets the mode.

I've tried to work with Dennis on this and he made an attempt but it did not
fix the problem and he did not want to
persue it further. I was pretty disappointed.

73
Greg
AB7R

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Phil and Christina
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:57 PM
To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 & Logic 8

I use Logic 8 with my K3. Choose the K2 setting, but it works fine. Reads
radio data as you log and allows some rig control from the program too. I
don't do anything fancy with it, but it seems fine for the basic operations.
Logic 8 also has contest log forms for many contests. I used the SS form
for the SSB contest recently.

Phil
NS7P

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Gary Smith
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:43 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 & Logic 8

My official hi to the group,

I just placed my order for a K3 today so the gears are in motion.

Anyone using Logic 8 with the K3? It looks like Logic is set up for
the K2 but I didn't see anything for the K3.

Or are the commands the same for both K2 & K3?

Thanks!

Gary
KA1J
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Gary Smith

RE: K3 & Logic 8

Hi Phil & Greg

That it works with the K3 is a good thing, I have been using one
incarnation of Logic or the other since Logic 2. For the most part
what I want is to be able to log automatically with the band & mode.
If it didn't work, I'd have to look around for a different software
and hope it would successfully import my Logic data into it.

Logic uses FoxPro still and I've not found FoxPro to be very user
friendly and to me it has always seemed quirky if not buggy. Dennis
seems to be happy to continue to program with FoxPro and I suspect
the issue is more with FoxPros limitations.

Dennis can be quite self directed at times. I suspect if he had a K3
to work with he would make the necessary changes to permit the whole
suite of options Logic contains to efficiently work with the K3. I
suppose without his having a K3 to do command testing with, he is
just guessing and doesn't want to waste his time or some such. He is
indeed a perfectionist with all the grief that sometimes entails.

A side note; one thing I've come to understand, the guy has integrity
& walks the walk. His Sabbath is on Saturday and he had an indoor
booth at Dayton. He closed down all of Saturday because he refused to
work on that day, no matter how that impacted his sales.

Since there appears to be some issue with the spotting functions, I
suspect he wants to do the right thing with the K3 & Logic interface.
If nobody sends one to him to work with, maybe once I get my K3 I
will send mine to him to play with for a week or so & I'll use my
trusty Corsair II during the down time. That's probably what he'll
need to get the issues worked out.

Thanks for the replies,

Gary
KA1J

> There's a problem when clicking on spots in Logic 8. I often find it
> necessary to click the spot two times. The first time sets the freq
> OK but it does not always set the mode. Clicking a spot a second time
> sets the mode.
>
> I've tried to work with Dennis on this and he made an attempt but it
> did not fix the problem and he did not want to persue it further. I
> was pretty disappointed.
>
> 73
> Greg
> AB7R
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Phil and
> Christina Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:57 PM To:
> [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft]
> K3 & Logic 8
>
>
> I use Logic 8 with my K3. Choose the K2 setting, but it works fine.
> Reads radio data as you log and allows some rig control from the
> program too. I don't do anything fancy with it, but it seems fine for
> the basic operations. Logic 8 also has contest log forms for many
> contests. I used the SS form for the SSB contest recently.
>
> Phil
> NS7P
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Gary Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:43 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 & Logic 8
>
>
> My official hi to the group,
>
> I just placed my order for a K3 today so the gears are in motion.
>
> Anyone using Logic 8 with the K3? It looks like Logic is set up for
> the K2 but I didn't see anything for the K3.
>
> Or are the commands the same for both K2 & K3?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Gary
> KA1J
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Joe Subich, W4TV-3

RE: K3 & Logic 8

In reply to this post by Greg - AB7R

Greg,

> I've tried to work with Dennis on this and he made an attempt
> but it did not fix the problem and he did not want to persue
> it further. I was pretty disappointed.

I suspect Logic is another of those logging programs that send
the mode before the frequency. I suppose I'll dig out a copy
and the serial port monitor one of these evenings to confirm
that. Perhaps I'll even run through all of the logging programs
that I have for support purposes and document those that will
have problems with the K3 (known issues: DXBase, DX4Win, AClog
and Win-EQF so far).

73,

... Joe, W4TV

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Greg
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:10 PM
> To: Phil and Christina; [hidden email]; [hidden email]
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 & Logic 8
>
>
> There's a problem when clicking on spots in Logic 8. I often
> find it necessary to click the spot two times. The first
> time sets the freq OK but it does not always set the mode.
> Clicking a spot a second time sets the mode.
>
> I've tried to work with Dennis on this and he made an attempt
> but it did not fix the problem and he did not want to persue
> it further. I was pretty disappointed.
>
> 73
> Greg
> AB7R
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Phil
> and Christina
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:57 PM
> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 & Logic 8
>
>
> I use Logic 8 with my K3. Choose the K2 setting, but it
> works fine. Reads radio data as you log and allows some rig
> control from the program too. I don't do anything fancy with
> it, but it seems fine for the basic operations. Logic 8 also
> has contest log forms for many contests. I used the SS form
> for the SSB contest recently.
>
> Phil
> NS7P
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Gary Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:43 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 & Logic 8
>
>
> My official hi to the group,
>
> I just placed my order for a K3 today so the gears are in motion.
>
> Anyone using Logic 8 with the K3? It looks like Logic is set
> up for the K2 but I didn't see anything for the K3.
>
> Or are the commands the same for both K2 & K3?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Gary
> KA1J
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Julian, G4ILO

RE: K3 & Logic 8

Joe Subich, W4TV-3 wrote

I suspect Logic is another of those logging programs that send
the mode before the frequency. I suppose I'll dig out a copy
and the serial port monitor one of these evenings to confirm
that. Perhaps I'll even run through all of the logging programs
that I have for support purposes and document those that will
have problems with the K3 (known issues: DXBase, DX4Win, AClog
and Win-EQF so far).

I wonder if this common issue could be resolved by having an option to make the mode command work per VFO (all bands) rather than per VFO per band? Another possible solution is that if the band change is made using a software command rather than a front panel button press, the K3 could simply leave the mode as it is already set.

It is not always enough just to send the mode command after the frequency command because you have to fight the K3's intention to switch to the mode you last used on the selected band. So the software has to change the frequency, wait a fraction of a second for the K3 to do its mode change, and then change the mode to what the software wants. It probably is expecting too much of software developers to add this specific support for the K3, if no other radio has the problem.

Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
* G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
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* KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

Brendan Minish

RE: K3 & Logic 8

In reply to this post by Gary Smith

You might wish to advise the author that the 'double click to set mode
issue' is because the mode is being set before the frequency. Some OLD
kenwoods required it this way around but with a modern radio that
remembers mode on a per band basis this now makes little sense

what needs to be done for k2 K3 (and probably some of the newer kenwoods
too..) is to set the mode AFTER the frequency so that the mode is being
set on the new band, not the old one.

I don't use logic 8 but if the author is unclear on what is needed I
would be happy to help if he gets in touch. I did the K2 and k3 support
in Dxbase and Omni-rig

73
Brendan EI6IZ

On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 22:33 -0500, Gary Smith wrote:

> Hi Phil & Greg
>
> That it works with the K3 is a good thing, I have been using one
> incarnation of Logic or the other since Logic 2. For the most part
> what I want is to be able to log automatically with the band & mode.
> If it didn't work, I'd have to look around for a different software
> and hope it would successfully import my Logic data into it.
>
> Logic uses FoxPro still and I've not found FoxPro to be very user
> friendly and to me it has always seemed quirky if not buggy. Dennis
> seems to be happy to continue to program with FoxPro and I suspect
> the issue is more with FoxPros limitations.
>
> Dennis can be quite self directed at times. I suspect if he had a K3
> to work with he would make the necessary changes to permit the whole
> suite of options Logic contains to efficiently work with the K3. I
> suppose without his having a K3 to do command testing with, he is
> just guessing and doesn't want to waste his time or some such. He is
> indeed a perfectionist with all the grief that sometimes entails.
>
> A side note; one thing I've come to understand, the guy has integrity
> & walks the walk. His Sabbath is on Saturday and he had an indoor
> booth at Dayton. He closed down all of Saturday because he refused to
> work on that day, no matter how that impacted his sales.
>
> Since there appears to be some issue with the spotting functions, I
> suspect he wants to do the right thing with the K3 & Logic interface.
> If nobody sends one to him to work with, maybe once I get my K3 I
> will send mine to him to play with for a week or so & I'll use my
> trusty Corsair II during the down time. That's probably what he'll
> need to get the issues worked out.
>
> Thanks for the replies,
>
> Gary
> KA1J
>
> > There's a problem when clicking on spots in Logic 8. I often find it
> > necessary to click the spot two times. The first time sets the freq
> > OK but it does not always set the mode. Clicking a spot a second time
> > sets the mode.
> >
> > I've tried to work with Dennis on this and he made an attempt but it
> > did not fix the problem and he did not want to persue it further. I
> > was pretty disappointed.
> >
> > 73
> > Greg
> > AB7R
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email]
> > [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Phil and
> > Christina Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:57 PM To:
> > [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft]
> > K3 & Logic 8
> >
> >
> > I use Logic 8 with my K3. Choose the K2 setting, but it works fine.
> > Reads radio data as you log and allows some rig control from the
> > program too. I don't do anything fancy with it, but it seems fine for
> > the basic operations. Logic 8 also has contest log forms for many
> > contests. I used the SS form for the SSB contest recently.
> >
> > Phil
> > NS7P
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email]
> > [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Gary Smith
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:43 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 & Logic 8
> >
> >
> > My official hi to the group,
> >
> > I just placed my order for a K3 today so the gears are in motion.
> >
> > Anyone using Logic 8 with the K3? It looks like Logic is set up for
> > the K2 but I didn't see anything for the K3.
> >
> > Or are the commands the same for both K2 & K3?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Gary
> > KA1J
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Brendan Minish

RE: K3 & Logic 8

In reply to this post by Joe Subich, W4TV-3

Dxbase as shipped has k2 support that does this in the right order for
the k2/k3 and all of the rig control features of Dxbase work correctly
with the K2/K3.
With DXbase 2007 there are no known issues with the k2/k3

I have a k3 file done for it too, at the moment it's only a cosmetic
rewrite of the k2 file since the k2 file fully supports all DXbase
features on the k3.
Anyone with older versions of Dxbase can get the updated radio config
files from me

73
Brendan EI6IZ

On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 01:34 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

> Greg,
>
> > I've tried to work with Dennis on this and he made an attempt
> > but it did not fix the problem and he did not want to persue
> > it further. I was pretty disappointed.
>
> I suspect Logic is another of those logging programs that send
> the mode before the frequency. I suppose I'll dig out a copy
> and the serial port monitor one of these evenings to confirm
> that. Perhaps I'll even run through all of the logging programs
> that I have for support purposes and document those that will
> have problems with the K3 (known issues: DXBase, DX4Win, AClog
> and Win-EQF so far).
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email]
> > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Greg
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:10 PM
> > To: Phil and Christina; [hidden email]; [hidden email]
> > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 & Logic 8
> >
> >
> > There's a problem when clicking on spots in Logic 8. I often
> > find it necessary to click the spot two times. The first
> > time sets the freq OK but it does not always set the mode.
> > Clicking a spot a second time sets the mode.
> >
> > I've tried to work with Dennis on this and he made an attempt
> > but it did not fix the problem and he did not want to persue
> > it further. I was pretty disappointed.
> >
> > 73
> > Greg
> > AB7R
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email]
> > [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Phil
> > and Christina
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:57 PM
> > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
> > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 & Logic 8
> >
> >
> > I use Logic 8 with my K3. Choose the K2 setting, but it
> > works fine. Reads radio data as you log and allows some rig
> > control from the program too. I don't do anything fancy with
> > it, but it seems fine for the basic operations. Logic 8 also
> > has contest log forms for many contests. I used the SS form
> > for the SSB contest recently.
> >
> > Phil
> > NS7P
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email]
> > [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Gary Smith
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:43 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 & Logic 8
> >
> >
> > My official hi to the group,
> >
> > I just placed my order for a K3 today so the gears are in motion.
> >
> > Anyone using Logic 8 with the K3? It looks like Logic is set
> > up for the K2 but I didn't see anything for the K3.
> >
> > Or are the commands the same for both K2 & K3?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Gary
> > KA1J
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Richard Thorne

Re: K3 & Logic 8

In reply to this post by Gary Smith

I've been using Logic8 with decent success with the K3.

I selected the TS-850 instead of the K2. When I used the K2 selection
it would not put the K3 into split mode while the TS-850 selection does.

I do have a couple quirks. Sometimes I get a radio time out and I have
to go to tools to reset the radio communication. I occasionally have to
select set rig twice to place the rig in the correct mode.

Bottom line the TS-850, in my case, is more stable and useful than using
the K2 selection.

For what its worth TRX Manager has been updated to support the K3 and
Laurent keeps adding K3 features. TRX communicates with Logic8 as a
rig. Another option is HRD (Ham Radio Deluxe), I have not used it much
but theres a way to interface HRD with Logic and HRD supports the K3
very well also. But to be honest, unless I am running my remote
controlled station (long story as its been off line for over a year now)
I don't see why you would need or want to bother with another software
program. I think other guys run HRD or TRX as they find it easier to
control the rig and get to menu items, and they may be right.

Rich - N5ZC

Gary Smith wrote:

> My official hi to the group,
>
> I just placed my order for a K3 today so the gears are in motion.
>
> Anyone using Logic 8 with the K3? It looks like Logic is set up for
> the K2 but I didn't see anything for the K3.
>
> Or are the commands the same for both K2 & K3?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Gary
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Brendan Minish

RE: K3 & Logic 8

In reply to this post by Gary Smith

Joe

This is not a patch this is an entirely valid solution in all ways that
the Software commands the radio.

Once again I would reiterate that all Rig control features of DXbase are
fully functional with the k2 and k3

the underlying program logic does not (ever) send mode without also
sending frequency so this approach does not break anything at all.

73
Brendan

On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 09:58 -0500, microHAM America wrote:

> By default DXBase changes mode before frequency. The rig
> control file I saw get around that by disabling the mode
> change and adding it to the end of the frequency change
> command. However, that is a patch and does not address the
> basic program logic.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brendan Minish [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:33 AM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Cc: 'Greg'; 'Phil and Christina'; [hidden email];
> > [hidden email]
> > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 & Logic 8
> >
> >
> > Dxbase as shipped has k2 support that does this in the right
> > order for the k2/k3 and all of the rig control features of
> > Dxbase work correctly with the K2/K3.
> > With DXbase 2007 there are no known issues with the k2/k3
> >
> > I have a k3 file done for it too, at the moment it's only a
> > cosmetic rewrite of the k2 file since the k2 file fully
> > supports all DXbase features on the k3.
> > Anyone with older versions of Dxbase can get the updated
> > radio config files from me
> >
> > 73
> > Brendan EI6IZ
> >
> > On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 01:34 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> > > Greg,
> > >
> > > > I've tried to work with Dennis on this and he made an attempt
> > > > but it did not fix the problem and he did not want to persue
> > > > it further. I was pretty disappointed.
> > >
> > > I suspect Logic is another of those logging programs that send
> > > the mode before the frequency. I suppose I'll dig out a copy
> > > and the serial port monitor one of these evenings to confirm
> > > that. Perhaps I'll even run through all of the logging programs
> > > that I have for support purposes and document those that will
> > > have problems with the K3 (known issues: DXBase, DX4Win, AClog
> > > and Win-EQF so far).
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > ... Joe, W4TV
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [hidden email]
> > > > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Greg
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:10 PM
> > > > To: Phil and Christina; [hidden email];
> > [hidden email]
> > > > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 & Logic 8
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There's a problem when clicking on spots in Logic 8. I often
> > > > find it necessary to click the spot two times. The first
> > > > time sets the freq OK but it does not always set the mode.
> > > > Clicking a spot a second time sets the mode.
> > > >
> > > > I've tried to work with Dennis on this and he made an attempt
> > > > but it did not fix the problem and he did not want to persue
> > > > it further. I was pretty disappointed.
> > > >
> > > > 73
> > > > Greg
> > > > AB7R
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [hidden email]
> > > > [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Phil
> > > > and Christina
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:57 PM
> > > > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
> > > > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 & Logic 8
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I use Logic 8 with my K3. Choose the K2 setting, but it
> > > > works fine. Reads radio data as you log and allows some rig
> > > > control from the program too. I don't do anything fancy with
> > > > it, but it seems fine for the basic operations. Logic 8 also
> > > > has contest log forms for many contests. I used the SS form
> > > > for the SSB contest recently.
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > > NS7P
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [hidden email]
> > > > [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Gary Smith
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 6:43 PM
> > > > To: [hidden email]
> > > > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 & Logic 8
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My official hi to the group,
> > > >
> > > > I just placed my order for a K3 today so the gears are in motion.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone using Logic 8 with the K3? It looks like Logic is set
> > > > up for the K2 but I didn't see anything for the K3.
> > > >
> > > > Or are the commands the same for both K2 & K3?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > > KA1J
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> > certainly don‘t try to fix the situation yourself. It‘s
> > dangerous. Leave it to a highly untrained, unqualified,
> > expendable professional.
> >