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tnnyswy

Re: Fwd: K3 Microphone Choices

Joe, you are overlooking one thing.

>>> trying to
duplicate the complex overtone structure of classical strings using a
microphone designed for the job is essential. <<<

There is nothing more complex in overtones than the Human Voice. Period.

I wonder why Electrovoice mic, both the EV 20 and the EV 27 are known throughout the Broadcast Industry.

BTW, Amateur Radio and Commercial Broadcasting has one thing in common.
They are both reproducing the Human Voice through a known (irrespective of bandwidth) medium.

((((73)))) Milverton

>________________________________
> From: Fred Smith <[hidden email]>
>To: "'Joe Subich, W4TV'" <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
>Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:59 AM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: K3 Microphone Choices
>
>Joe you left out one important thing "Quality" I hate junk no matter what it
>is. I learned that years ago I was too poor to buy cheap it cost too much in
>the long run that applied to my businesses as well as personal purchases.
>
>Each to his own.
>
>Fred/N0AZZ
>
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>[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
>Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:49 AM
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: K3 Microphone Choices
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>On 3/14/2013 6:52 AM, Fred Smith wrote:
>> The same could be said be said about buying a loaded K3/P3 SVGA for
>> $5500+ instead of an IC-718 for $700 both radios?
>
>This is a case of apples vs. oranges. There is less difference among
>microphones designed for voice work than there is among high end rigs.
>Yes, there are places for specialized microphones - if one is working from a
>distance (e.g., a "shotgun" mic), trying to mic a "kick" drum, or trying to
>duplicate the complex overtone structure of classical strings using a
>microphone designed for the job is essential.
>
>However, communications is one of the least demanding applications for a
>microphone and spending $200, $300 or even $400 is not going to provide any
>more performance than the $50 utility mic. In this area, one is paying for
>name and style not performance.
>
>73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>On 3/14/2013 6:52 AM, Fred Smith wrote:
>> The same could be said be said about buying a loaded K3/P3 SVGA for
>> $5500+ instead of an IC-718 for $700 both radios?
>>
>> Myself I prefer a better quality of radio, mic and microHAM equipment
>> over Signalink. I hate to have a weak link in an otherwise good
>> station and then quality comes into the picture plastic vs. metal.
>> That said I do have several "plastic mic's in the shack 2
>> Elecraft/Heil headsets and 2 Elecraft hand mic's K2/KX3.
>>
>> Quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten.
>>
>> Fred/N0AZZ
>>
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>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Arthur
>> Nienhouse
>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 1:13 AM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: K3 Microphone Choices
>>
>> Five years ago I purchased a ATR-30 from J&R for $22.00 it came with a
>> 16ft XLR 3 pin cable when I A/B tested against my Gold Line Heil the
>> only difference was the price my advice is use the EQ save you money
>> do not purchase the Heil.
>> http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/1540
>> Regards
>> Art
>> ka9zap
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject:     [Elecraft] K3 Microphone Choices
>> Date:     Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:28:38 -0500 (CDT)
>> From:     [hidden email]
>> To:     [hidden email]
>>
>>
>>
>> Good evening. I have a K3 and really love it. I am looking at
>> purchasing a new microphone pretty soon. I am currently using a
>> Kenwood MC-60 and I get excellent reports on my modulation. But I
>> have been reading alot about the Heil microphones and was wondering
>> what Heil microphone would work good with my system. I basically like
>> to operate for DX though I do chat from time to time on some nets. Any
>recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks!!! Mark KB3Z
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David Gilbert

Re: Fwd: K3 Microphone Choices

In reply to this post by N0AZZ

You, my friend, are the hypster's legal prey. There are many areas in
life where price and quality are practically unrelated, and those who
look for quality based primarily on price are either ignorant or too
lazy to do the research. Even the "plastic vs metal" criteria doesn't
hold up in the real world, and when dozens of people point out the
incongruity of spending $150 for a Heil mic that is no better (and
probably worse) than something that can be had for $50 or less, the wise
would pay attention. A $20 electret computer microphone will sound and
function every bit as a Heil when properly set up with the K3.

"The same could be said be said about buying a loaded K3/P3 SVGA for
$5500+ instead of an IC-718 for $700 both radios?"

Or maybe the same could be said about spending $12,500 for an IC-7800
instead of $5,500 for a loaded K3/P3. Oh wait ...

A $900 toilet seat is still just a toilet seat.

Dave AB7E

On 3/14/2013 3:52 AM, Fred Smith wrote:

> The same could be said be said about buying a loaded K3/P3 SVGA for $5500+
> instead of an IC-718 for $700 both radios?
>
> Myself I prefer a better quality of radio, mic and microHAM equipment over
> Signalink. I hate to have a weak link in an otherwise good station and then
> quality comes into the picture plastic vs. metal. That said I do have
> several "plastic mic's in the shack 2 Elecraft/Heil headsets and 2 Elecraft
> hand mic's K2/KX3.
>
> Quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten.
>
> Fred/N0AZZ
>

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ

Re: Fwd: K3 Microphone Choices

Administrator

Let's end this thread now in the interest of keeping list volume under
control.

73,

Eric
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N0AZZ

Re: Fwd: K3 Microphone Choices

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You buy your junk and I'll buy mine. You're a funny guy 8>)

Fred/N0AZZ

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Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:31 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: K3 Microphone Choices

You, my friend, are the hypster's legal prey. There are many areas in life
where price and quality are practically unrelated, and those who look for
quality based primarily on price are either ignorant or too lazy to do the
research. Even the "plastic vs metal" criteria doesn't hold up in the real
world, and when dozens of people point out the incongruity of spending $150
for a Heil mic that is no better (and probably worse) than something that
can be had for $50 or less, the wise would pay attention. A $20 electret
computer microphone will sound and function every bit as a Heil when
properly set up with the K3.

"The same could be said be said about buying a loaded K3/P3 SVGA for $5500+
instead of an IC-718 for $700 both radios?"

Or maybe the same could be said about spending $12,500 for an IC-7800
instead of $5,500 for a loaded K3/P3. Oh wait ...

A $900 toilet seat is still just a toilet seat.

Dave AB7E

On 3/14/2013 3:52 AM, Fred Smith wrote:

> The same could be said be said about buying a loaded K3/P3 SVGA for
> $5500+ instead of an IC-718 for $700 both radios?
>
> Myself I prefer a better quality of radio, mic and microHAM equipment
> over Signalink. I hate to have a weak link in an otherwise good
> station and then quality comes into the picture plastic vs. metal.
> That said I do have several "plastic mic's in the shack 2
> Elecraft/Heil headsets and 2 Elecraft hand mic's K2/KX3.
>
> Quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten.
>
> Fred/N0AZZ
>

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