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K3: Mike input no longer works.

dwines
I haven't been on sideband for several months and this past weekend I
decided to try to pick up a country or three during the contest.

I switched the K3 over to USB on 15M, put the Heil Proset on, turned on VOX
and gave a little whistle and nothing happened. Tried PTT with no luck there
either. I didn't have the time to get into the problem too deep at the time
but now I have a little time to devote. I can't really remember the last
time I used SSB but it used to work.

I have tried looking at all the appropriate menu settings and can't find
where I have set something weird. The mike won't work on either the front or
rear panel. The Proset mike works on other equipment.

Here's what I have:
      K3 #123 FW: 3.79 D1: 2.54 D2: 0.00 FL: 1.08
      NO SUB RCVR, NO DVR
      All current mods done by Aptos as of 8 or 9 months ago.
      (don't remember exact date and haven't dug out the paper work)
      Heil Proset Headphones/mike purchased from Elecraft
      VOX Delay: Doesn't matter where it's set

Config settings:
      MIC BTN: OFF
      TX INH: OFF
      PTT KEY: OFF-OFF
      TX ALC: ON

Main Menu settings:
        TX EQ: ALL BASE BAND (BUT OTHER SETTING DON'T SEEM TO MATTER)
      VOX GN: TRIED EVERYTHING - NO MATTER
      ANTIVOX:  "      "          "   "
      MIC SEL: RPL (FRONT PANEL DOESN'T WORK EITHER)
      MIC+LIN: OFF

I do have a US Interface Navigator sound card interface connected and PSK D
works ok. I haven't tried all the other digimodes yet. I totally
disconnected the Navigator but it made no difference.

Have looked at all the obvious things, all plugs in the right holes, etc.
Rig works great otherwise!

It's probably something stupid that I did but does anybody have any ideas
where else to look before I go to the guys and gals in Aptos?

Don
K5DW

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Re: K3: Mike input no longer works.

K6LMP
What filter is set? If you have a narrowband filter installed in addition to the stock 2.7K filter, and if you have been working CW/digital modes with a narrowband filter, and if the settings somehow got messed up on the mode-by-mode filter selection, you might be trying to transmit SSB through a narrowband filter.  the K3 doesn't like that.

lew K6LMP  

On Mar 31, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Donald Wines wrote:

> I haven't been on sideband for several months and this past weekend I
> decided to try to pick up a country or three during the contest.
>
> I switched the K3 over to USB on 15M, put the Heil Proset on, turned on VOX
> and gave a little whistle and nothing happened. Tried PTT with no luck there
> either. I didn't have the time to get into the problem too deep at the time
> but now I have a little time to devote. I can't really remember the last
> time I used SSB but it used to work.
>
> I have tried looking at all the appropriate menu settings and can't find
> where I have set something weird. The mike won't work on either the front or
> rear panel. The Proset mike works on other equipment.
>
> Here's what I have:
>      K3 #123 FW: 3.79 D1: 2.54 D2: 0.00 FL: 1.08
>      NO SUB RCVR, NO DVR
>      All current mods done by Aptos as of 8 or 9 months ago.
>      (don't remember exact date and haven't dug out the paper work)
>      Heil Proset Headphones/mike purchased from Elecraft
>      VOX Delay: Doesn't matter where it's set
>
> Config settings:
>      MIC BTN: OFF
>      TX INH: OFF
>      PTT KEY: OFF-OFF
>      TX ALC: ON
>
> Main Menu settings:
> TX EQ: ALL BASE BAND (BUT OTHER SETTING DON'T SEEM TO MATTER)
>      VOX GN: TRIED EVERYTHING - NO MATTER
>      ANTIVOX:  "      "          "   "
>      MIC SEL: RPL (FRONT PANEL DOESN'T WORK EITHER)
>      MIC+LIN: OFF
>
> I do have a US Interface Navigator sound card interface connected and PSK D
> works ok. I haven't tried all the other digimodes yet. I totally
> disconnected the Navigator but it made no difference.
>
> Have looked at all the obvious things, all plugs in the right holes, etc.
> Rig works great otherwise!
>
> It's probably something stupid that I did but does anybody have any ideas
> where else to look before I go to the guys and gals in Aptos?
>
> Don
> K5DW
>
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Re: K3: Mike input no longer works.

George Thornton
If I recall correctly that microphone is an electret.  You have to set
the bias on the mic setting for it to work.  

Go to Main:Mic Sel setting.  While in that setting hit 2 to turn bias on
or off.  You may also want to play with sensitivity setting  (hi or lo)
by hitting 1.  See manual p.20.  These settings are available for front
and rear mikes.

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Lew Phelps K6LMP
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:37 PM
To: Donald Wines
Cc: 'Elecraft'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Mike input no longer works.

What filter is set? If you have a narrowband filter installed in
addition to the stock 2.7K filter, and if you have been working
CW/digital modes with a narrowband filter, and if the settings somehow
got messed up on the mode-by-mode filter selection, you might be trying
to transmit SSB through a narrowband filter.  the K3 doesn't like that.

lew K6LMP  

On Mar 31, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Donald Wines wrote:

> I haven't been on sideband for several months and this past weekend I
> decided to try to pick up a country or three during the contest.
>
> I switched the K3 over to USB on 15M, put the Heil Proset on, turned
on VOX
> and gave a little whistle and nothing happened. Tried PTT with no luck
there
> either. I didn't have the time to get into the problem too deep at the
time
> but now I have a little time to devote. I can't really remember the
last
> time I used SSB but it used to work.
>
> I have tried looking at all the appropriate menu settings and can't
find
> where I have set something weird. The mike won't work on either the
front or

> rear panel. The Proset mike works on other equipment.
>
> Here's what I have:
>      K3 #123 FW: 3.79 D1: 2.54 D2: 0.00 FL: 1.08
>      NO SUB RCVR, NO DVR
>      All current mods done by Aptos as of 8 or 9 months ago.
>      (don't remember exact date and haven't dug out the paper work)
>      Heil Proset Headphones/mike purchased from Elecraft
>      VOX Delay: Doesn't matter where it's set
>
> Config settings:
>      MIC BTN: OFF
>      TX INH: OFF
>      PTT KEY: OFF-OFF
>      TX ALC: ON
>
> Main Menu settings:
> TX EQ: ALL BASE BAND (BUT OTHER SETTING DON'T SEEM TO MATTER)
>      VOX GN: TRIED EVERYTHING - NO MATTER
>      ANTIVOX:  "      "          "   "
>      MIC SEL: RPL (FRONT PANEL DOESN'T WORK EITHER)
>      MIC+LIN: OFF
>
> I do have a US Interface Navigator sound card interface connected and
PSK D
> works ok. I haven't tried all the other digimodes yet. I totally
> disconnected the Navigator but it made no difference.
>
> Have looked at all the obvious things, all plugs in the right holes,
etc.
> Rig works great otherwise!
>
> It's probably something stupid that I did but does anybody have any
ideas

> where else to look before I go to the guys and gals in Aptos?
>
> Don
> K5DW
>
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Re: K3: Mike input no longer works.

Guy, K2AV
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Is your mic supposed to have bias?  Using MAIN:MIC SEL  tap <2> button
to toggle bias on and off.

73, Guy.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Donald Wines <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I haven't been on sideband for several months and this past weekend I
> decided to try to pick up a country or three during the contest.
>
> I switched the K3 over to USB on 15M, put the Heil Proset on, turned on VOX
> and gave a little whistle and nothing happened. Tried PTT with no luck there
> either. I didn't have the time to get into the problem too deep at the time
> but now I have a little time to devote. I can't really remember the last
> time I used SSB but it used to work.
>
> I have tried looking at all the appropriate menu settings and can't find
> where I have set something weird. The mike won't work on either the front or
> rear panel. The Proset mike works on other equipment.
>
> Here's what I have:
>      K3 #123 FW: 3.79 D1: 2.54 D2: 0.00 FL: 1.08
>      NO SUB RCVR, NO DVR
>      All current mods done by Aptos as of 8 or 9 months ago.
>      (don't remember exact date and haven't dug out the paper work)
>      Heil Proset Headphones/mike purchased from Elecraft
>      VOX Delay: Doesn't matter where it's set
>
> Config settings:
>      MIC BTN: OFF
>      TX INH: OFF
>      PTT KEY: OFF-OFF
>      TX ALC: ON
>
> Main Menu settings:
>        TX EQ: ALL BASE BAND (BUT OTHER SETTING DON'T SEEM TO MATTER)
>      VOX GN: TRIED EVERYTHING - NO MATTER
>      ANTIVOX:  "      "          "   "
>      MIC SEL: RPL (FRONT PANEL DOESN'T WORK EITHER)
>      MIC+LIN: OFF
>
> I do have a US Interface Navigator sound card interface connected and PSK D
> works ok. I haven't tried all the other digimodes yet. I totally
> disconnected the Navigator but it made no difference.
>
> Have looked at all the obvious things, all plugs in the right holes, etc.
> Rig works great otherwise!
>
> It's probably something stupid that I did but does anybody have any ideas
> where else to look before I go to the guys and gals in Aptos?
>
> Don
> K5DW
>
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Re: K3: Mike input no longer works.

dwines
In reply to this post by George Thornton
It was the bias setting. I knew it had to be something simple!

Thanks, gang, is this list great or what??

Don
K5DW

> -----Original Message-----
> From: George A. Thornton [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:24 PM
> To: Lew Phelps K6LMP; Donald Wines
> Cc: Elecraft
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3: Mike input no longer works.
>
> If I recall correctly that microphone is an electret.  You have to set
> the bias on the mic setting for it to work.
>
> Go to Main:Mic Sel setting.  While in that setting hit 2 to turn bias
> on
> or off.  You may also want to play with sensitivity setting  (hi or lo)
> by hitting 1.  See manual p.20.  These settings are available for front
> and rear mikes.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Lew Phelps K6LMP
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:37 PM
> To: Donald Wines
> Cc: 'Elecraft'
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Mike input no longer works.
>
> What filter is set? If you have a narrowband filter installed in
> addition to the stock 2.7K filter, and if you have been working
> CW/digital modes with a narrowband filter, and if the settings somehow
> got messed up on the mode-by-mode filter selection, you might be trying
> to transmit SSB through a narrowband filter.  the K3 doesn't like that.
>
> lew K6LMP
>
> On Mar 31, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Donald Wines wrote:
>
> > I haven't been on sideband for several months and this past weekend I
> > decided to try to pick up a country or three during the contest.
> >
> > I switched the K3 over to USB on 15M, put the Heil Proset on, turned
> on VOX
> > and gave a little whistle and nothing happened. Tried PTT with no
> luck
> there
> > either. I didn't have the time to get into the problem too deep at
> the
> time
> > but now I have a little time to devote. I can't really remember the
> last
> > time I used SSB but it used to work.
> >
> > I have tried looking at all the appropriate menu settings and can't
> find
> > where I have set something weird. The mike won't work on either the
> front or
> > rear panel. The Proset mike works on other equipment.
> >
> > Here's what I have:
> >      K3 #123 FW: 3.79 D1: 2.54 D2: 0.00 FL: 1.08
> >      NO SUB RCVR, NO DVR
> >      All current mods done by Aptos as of 8 or 9 months ago.
> >      (don't remember exact date and haven't dug out the paper work)
> >      Heil Proset Headphones/mike purchased from Elecraft
> >      VOX Delay: Doesn't matter where it's set
> >
> > Config settings:
> >      MIC BTN: OFF
> >      TX INH: OFF
> >      PTT KEY: OFF-OFF
> >      TX ALC: ON
> >
> > Main Menu settings:
> > TX EQ: ALL BASE BAND (BUT OTHER SETTING DON'T SEEM TO MATTER)
> >      VOX GN: TRIED EVERYTHING - NO MATTER
> >      ANTIVOX:  "      "          "   "
> >      MIC SEL: RPL (FRONT PANEL DOESN'T WORK EITHER)
> >      MIC+LIN: OFF
> >
> > I do have a US Interface Navigator sound card interface connected and
> PSK D
> > works ok. I haven't tried all the other digimodes yet. I totally
> > disconnected the Navigator but it made no difference.
> >
> > Have looked at all the obvious things, all plugs in the right holes,
> etc.
> > Rig works great otherwise!
> >
> > It's probably something stupid that I did but does anybody have any
> ideas
> > where else to look before I go to the guys and gals in Aptos?
> >
> > Don
> > K5DW
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________
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