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Gary Smith-2

K3 - N1MM & keyboard

When I contest I use N1MM, use the memories on the K3 and send with
the key when needed & I'm busy as a one arm paper hanger doing it
this way. I'd like to just use the keyboard, use N1MM to the fullest
and use the paddles only when needed.

What's an affordable & simple method of getting the keyboard to work
with N1MM & the K3?

Thanks & 73,

Gary
KA1J
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David Gilbert

Re: K3 - N1MM & keyboard

All you need is a serial port (regular or USB adapter) and a cable to
the K3. Literally ... that's all you need. The N1MM website has all
the documentation on how to set everything up. I've run entire contests
without ever touching the paddle, although the paddle is quicker for the
odd non-routine transmission.

Dave AB7E

On 12/28/2015 10:43 PM, Gary Smith wrote:

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Mike K2MK

Re: K3 - N1MM & keyboard

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Hi Gary,

It sounds like you are not using the CW memories within N1MM. But I assume you are using a serial connection to the K3 so that N1MM can read your frequency for logging purposes. If this is true then you probably need to read up on using the memory functions. With 12 slots available you can pre-program some of the memory functions to handle the typical reach-for-the-paddle actions. Such as RRR or ee or 73. You can also press CTRL K to quickly bring up a free form CW/RTTY window that responds to anything you type on the keyboard.

You can also program K3 macros into the message slots that access functions on the K3 such as the M1 through M4 memory keys. I always have one macro set up to call up the K3 Auto Spot function. And of course you can change frequency using the mouse wheel which you may already be doing. There is also incredible functionality with respect to skimmer spots.

The only additional issue that will need to be addressed is whether you are satisfied with the response you get between your computer and the K3 when sending messages. Sending CW through the serial cable can sometimes come up jumbled. For this and other reasons many people use an external Winkeyer type device to handle the messages from N1MM over a USB cable and then to directly key the K3 through the KEY input jack (not the paddle jack).

N1MM is a complicated, feature-rich program. Sometimes it's necessary to take it slow and learn the features during non-contest periods with the K3 in test mode. There are also tutorial video links available on their website.

73,
Mike K2MK

Gary Smith-2 wrote

When I contest I use N1MM, use the memories on the K3 and send with
the key when needed & I'm busy as a one arm paper hanger doing it
this way. I'd like to just use the keyboard, use N1MM to the fullest
and use the paddles only when needed.

What's an affordable & simple method of getting the keyboard to work
with N1MM & the K3?

Thanks & 73,
Gary
KA1J

Gary Smith-2

Re: K3 - N1MM & keyboard

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Thanks for the replies on & off list.

I've tried to follow the documentation on the N1MM site and thus far
I haven't been able to get any communication from the memories to the
K3. I only have one COM port on the computer and though I checked
that in the config setup to also be for CW, I'm guessing I may need
another COM port as the pictorial shows three ports available with
one of them for the radio and another for CW. If that's the case,
I'll likely need a different computer as this one is a HP slimline
and is very limited in what it can do and like a inexpensive laptop,
hardware can not be added to it.

I don't want this topic to become what some will consider an off
topic thread as many here likely don't use N1MM with their K3 so
please send your comments direct to me.

If there is a good link for setting up the K3 with N1MM, I'd like to
know about it, I Google search found one for how to do this with the
Flex but that's not Elecraft.

Thanks & 73,

Gary
KA1J

> When I contest I use N1MM, use the memories on the K3 and send with
> the key when needed & I'm busy as a one arm paper hanger doing it
> this way. I'd like to just use the keyboard, use N1MM to the fullest
> and use the paddles only when needed.
>
> What's an affordable & simple method of getting the keyboard to work
> with N1MM & the K3?
>
> Thanks & 73,
>
> Gary
> KA1J
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Gary Smith-2

Re: K3 - N1MM & keyboard - Resolved

Again, thanks for the helpful replies.

For anyone in the future following this thread for an answer.

As was directed, the answer for my situation was in setting the K3
CONFIG PTT--KEY to OFF-rts. Also, engaging the CW/other option in the
N1MM and RTS to CW changed from always off, in the N1MM port
configuration.

The help was so appreciated and it will help me to have I'm sure,
even more fun in the contests. I type like a big dumb ape and much
prefer to send CW with my Begali Sculpture but in a contest where
accuracy is important for both sides of the Q and the ability to use
the F-key macros, this will definitely make me a more effective
contester. And a less fatigued one at that...

Again, thanks for the replies, all who steered me to the exact same
resolution.

73,

Gary
KA1J

> Thanks for the replies on & off list.
>
> I've tried to follow the documentation on the N1MM site and thus far
> I haven't been able to get any communication from the memories to the
> K3. I only have one COM port on the computer and though I checked
> that in the config setup to also be for CW, I'm guessing I may need
> another COM port as the pictorial shows three ports available with
> one of them for the radio and another for CW. If that's the case,
> I'll likely need a different computer as this one is a HP slimline
> and is very limited in what it can do and like a inexpensive laptop,
> hardware can not be added to it.
>
> I don't want this topic to become what some will consider an off
> topic thread as many here likely don't use N1MM with their K3 so
> please send your comments direct to me.
>
> If there is a good link for setting up the K3 with N1MM, I'd like to
> know about it, I Google search found one for how to do this with the
> Flex but that's not Elecraft.
>
> Thanks & 73,
>
> Gary
> KA1J
>
> > When I contest I use N1MM, use the memories on the K3 and send with
> > the key when needed & I'm busy as a one arm paper hanger doing it
> > this way. I'd like to just use the keyboard, use N1MM to the fullest
> > and use the paddles only when needed.
> >
> > What's an affordable & simple method of getting the keyboard to work
> > with N1MM & the K3?
> >
> > Thanks & 73,
> >
> > Gary
> > KA1J
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David Gilbert

Re: K3 - N1MM & keyboard

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I don't understand ... why do you need to keep using the K3 memories?
N1MM has all the easy-to-program memories you need via the keyboard
function keys, and if you used a key mapper like AutoHotKey you could
add dozens more. It doesn't make any sense to me to use the keyboard
just to trigger the K3 memories. What am I missing?

Dave AB7E

On 12/29/2015 6:41 AM, Gary Smith wrote:

> Thanks for the replies on & off list.
>
> I've tried to follow the documentation on the N1MM site and thus far
> I haven't been able to get any communication from the memories to the
> K3. I only have one COM port on the computer and though I checked
> that in the config setup to also be for CW, I'm guessing I may need
> another COM port as the pictorial shows three ports available with
> one of them for the radio and another for CW. If that's the case,
> I'll likely need a different computer as this one is a HP slimline
> and is very limited in what it can do and like a inexpensive laptop,
> hardware can not be added to it.
>
> I don't want this topic to become what some will consider an off
> topic thread as many here likely don't use N1MM with their K3 so
> please send your comments direct to me.
>
> If there is a good link for setting up the K3 with N1MM, I'd like to
> know about it, I Google search found one for how to do this with the
> Flex but that's not Elecraft.
>
> Thanks & 73,
>
> Gary
> KA1J
>
>> When I contest I use N1MM, use the memories on the K3 and send with
>> the key when needed & I'm busy as a one arm paper hanger doing it
>> this way. I'd like to just use the keyboard, use N1MM to the fullest
>> and use the paddles only when needed.
>>
>> What's an affordable & simple method of getting the keyboard to work
>> with N1MM & the K3?
>>
>> Thanks & 73,
>>
>> Gary
>> KA1J
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