K3 PTT - WHHTLOT
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After the 28 posts on "K3 PTT", I'm thinking we
haven't heard the last of this! Wow - 45 versions and re-explanations of what the K3 PTT function is. In just CW? As a non-contestor, getting back into hamradio ham - I'm starting to think the K3 is getting perhaps too complex, for normal operation. I'm serious. Its starting to resemble a 747 dashboard. Foot switches, PTT's, Key Down, Key Up, RF Out, No RF, No Receive, Receive ...... and Knife Switches! PTT CW? PTT SSB, PTT WFM? Neon tuning tube? Who's on first? I hope Elecraft has a very good Technical Writer on this one. Lots of room, for misinterpretaton and confusion remains IMHO. When even Don, got into this - I knew it was a confusing topic. Sounds like a long well-worded paragraph or 2, with some flow diagrams is in order. And especially include it in the "preliminary startup" description. N3CSY de Fred ____________________________________________________________________________________ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Not being rude, but you tried to drive an FT-2000 or worse an FT-857 where
nearly everything is on menus! So far, this is looking like an easy ride, but with every comfort you could imagine. On 25/9/07 12:38, "Fred (FL)" <[hidden email]> sent: > Its starting to > resemble a 747 dashboard. -- Children aren't happy without something to ignore, And that's what parents were created for. -Ogden Nash (1902-1971) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Ah, um, what is WHHTLOT?
Reply directly if it is not something for public consumption ... keith.darwin (dit-dah dah) goodrich.com - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Fred,
I believe it has been clarified now - many thanks to Vic and Ed. The problem that I saw was that different folks had a different view of what "Transmit Mode" meant when in CW mode. I would prefer the use of "Transmit State" instead to describe a state of the hardware apart from the generation of RF by the paddles (or computer, etc.). The prior discussion of what the action of a PTT closure while QSK or Semi-QSK were selected caused further drift of the terminology. In other words, everyone knew what they were thinking, but I am not sure everyone knew what everyone else meant. So I had to ask. 73, Don W3FPR Fred (FL) wrote: > I hope Elecraft has a very good Technical Writer > on this one. Lots of room, for misinterpretaton > and confusion remains IMHO. When even Don, > got into this - I knew it was a confusing > topic. Sounds like a long well-worded > paragraph or 2, with some flow diagrams is in > order. And especially include it in the > "preliminary startup" description. > > N3CSY > de Fred > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Fred (FL) wrote:
> After the 28 posts on "K3 PTT", I'm thinking we > haven't heard the last of this! > > Wow - 45 versions and re-explanations of what the > K3 PTT function is. In just CW? As a non-contestor, > getting back into hamradio ham - I'm starting to > think the K3 is getting perhaps too complex, for > normal operation. I'm serious. Its starting to > resemble a 747 dashboard. It's really very simple. Here's what I wrote to someone else: It's my fault for saying "Transmit mode" when I should have said "Transmit state". In transmit state the rx is muted (except for sidetone), the transmitter is 'armed', the antenna is switched to the transmitter, and an external amp or antenna relay is activated. There is also a "receive state", of course. CW and SSB (etc.) are 'modes'. The following are 'submodes' for CW: PTT, QSK, and semi QSK. Then it's simple: the PTT switch puts the rig into transmit state. QSK and semi-QSK are ways to *automatically* enter and exit transmit state when you send CW. But in PTT submode, the automatic switching to transmit state with keying is disabled. In PTT submode, you switch states *manually*. What seems to have confused everyone is that with the K3, if you are in the QSK or semi-QSK submode, the PTT switch is 'live' even though it is not needed. It will put you in transmit state if you close it. It is in a sense in parallel with the automatic switching that is initiated with the key. This is not really important for the original issue, which is that some VHF (and other) operators wanted a PTT submode which did not originally exist, in which the *ONLY* way to enter transmit state is to use the PTT switch. Now they have it. I hope this is the final, definitive, solution to the confusion which I created. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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