K3 - Roger beep
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What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other term
for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming off? M0XDF -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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You have got to be kidding!
john-n4dsp > What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other > term > for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming > off? > > M0XDF > -- > In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, > but in practice there is. > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/787 - Release Date: 5/3/2007 > 2:11 PM > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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From: "David Ferrington" <[hidden email]> > What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other > term > for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming > off? David, let's go one step further - a free Space Cadet uniform with each K3? Simon "K3 - I screwed it up myself" HB9DRV _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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David Ferrington wrote:
> What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other term > for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming > off? > It's a troll right? Ian -- Ian J Maude G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member of RSGB, ARRL, GQRP K2 #4044 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Let's leave that until Elecraft bring out a 27MHz option for the K3!
I take it you have come to amateur radio from CB? 73 In a recent message, David Ferrington <[hidden email]> wrote ... >What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other term >for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming >off? > >M0XDF -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK ------ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by M0XDF
A truly excellent idea but you should have asked more. Since the audio
is being processed by dsp it should be a no brainer to add echo !!! ...and maybe a pull out drawer underneath for a ten code lookup sheet !!! Martin David Ferrington wrote: > What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other term > for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming > off? > > M0XDF > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Sorry, I'm relatively new ham, so if that's frowned upon, forgive me. Only a
lot of people in my club work VHF contests (I've ordered an XV144) and use a beep a lot. On 4/5/07 09:06, "n4dsp" <[hidden email]> sent: > You have got to be kidding! > > john-n4dsp > > >> What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other >> term >> for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming >> off? >> >> M0XDF The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from. -Andrew Tannenbaum, computer science professor (1944- ) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Ah, perhaps we were being a tad cruel, but it's a history thing I think,
oh and a bit of a long standing joke with some as well. 73 Martin David Ferrington wrote: > Sorry, I'm relatively new ham, so if that's frowned upon, forgive me. Only a > lot of people in my club work VHF contests (I've ordered an XV144) and use a > beep a lot. > > > On 4/5/07 09:06, "n4dsp" <[hidden email]> sent: > > >> You have got to be kidding! >> >> john-n4dsp >> >> >> >>> What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other >>> term >>> for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming >>> off? >>> >>> M0XDF >>> Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Fri, 4 May 2007, David Ferrington wrote:
> What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other term > for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming > off? Good Buddy, ya gotta keep the pedal to the metal for that. Thom www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In a message dated 5/4/07 4:01:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes: > What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other term > for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming > off? I think it's one feature I so not want. http://theducks.org/pictures/do-not-want-dog.jpg > In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, > but in practice there is. > If it were easy, everybody would be doing it. If it happens, it must be possible. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. 73 de Jim, N2EY ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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David, please understand the reaction from some over here
on this side of the pond. "Roger beeps", along with "echo boxes" are standard fare for the "wanna-be hams" on our CB channels. Actually, perhaps a "roger beep" makes a bit of sense in the marginal, sometimes imaginary world of VHF/UHF contesting QSO's ... 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [hidden email] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Yes, understood - no offence taken and I hope none given.
I understand from some of the serious VHF contesters over here that it is very helpful. I know there are various units available and I'm sure it would be possible to construct something simply, but thought I see if it is something that could be simply incorporated into the firmware. On 4/5/07 16:34, "Ken Kopp" <[hidden email]> sent: > David, please understand the reaction from some over here > on this side of the pond. "Roger beeps", along with "echo > boxes" are standard fare for the "wanna-be hams" on our > CB channels. > > Actually, perhaps a "roger beep" makes a bit of sense in the > marginal, sometimes imaginary world of VHF/UHF contesting > QSO's ... > > 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP > [hidden email] > -- Black holes are where God divided by zero. -Steven Wright, comedian (1955-) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Nasa uses it, so it must have some purpose... I have a 10 meter rig that has it built in, along with echo and robot voice! The beep is ok but to loud, with no way to adjust it. Brett N2DTS > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of David > Ferrington > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 11:43 AM > To: Ken Kopp > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep > > Yes, understood - no offence taken and I hope none given. > I understand from some of the serious VHF contesters over > here that it is > very helpful. I know there are various units available and > I'm sure it would > be possible to construct something simply, but thought I see if it is > something that could be simply incorporated into the firmware. > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Over here on this side of the big pond, it's considered rather crass.
Rather like noisily "breaking wind" at church in the middle of the prayer. This caused by the shenanigans by "CB" operators on the 27 Mhz. band. Sadly duplicated by "newbie" amateur operators on 2 meter FM band frequently. Generally considered rude operating practices. No "ill will" meant to you guys in UK. 73, Sandy W5TVW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Kopp" <[hidden email]> To: "David Ferrington" <[hidden email]> Cc: <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep > David, please understand the reaction from some over here > on this side of the pond. "Roger beeps", along with "echo > boxes" are standard fare for the "wanna-be hams" on our > CB channels. > Actually, perhaps a "roger beep" makes a bit of sense in the > marginal, sometimes imaginary world of VHF/UHF contesting > QSO's ... > > 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP > [hidden email] > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: > 269.6.2/787 - Release Date: 5/3/2007 2:11 PM > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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There will be no roger beeps. End of thread :)
73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Fri, 4 May 2007, Sandy W5TVW wrote:
> Over here on this side of the big pond, it's considered rather crass. Rather > like noisily "breaking wind" at church in the middle of the prayer. The K3WC(K3 Whoppie Cushion)...next thing ya know, the Aptos crew will offer a Joy Buzzer attachment for the keyer. As soon as I get back to the office, I will order my K3 and sign the form with invisible ink. Thom www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Brett gazdzinski-2
Yes, it has a legitimate use. It indicates when one person stops talking
during informal use of a radio channel such as when the astronauts are talking. It replaces the spoken word "over" that is standard in professional, military and Amateur use. So there are very few situations where it has any value in Amateur work. VHF FM repeaters, for example, sometimes use the "beep" to signal when the repeater drops the carrier, since that happens after a delay following the last transmission. That is, two or more people might be talking through the repeater for a while, then when the conversation ends, a few seconds later the repeater will drop its carrier with a "beep" to signify that has happened, since there's no background noise to indicate the carrier is gone. It might be helpful in an SSB round table, except that it'd be darn irritating. There'd be a beep every few seconds! Short transmissions with brief pauses to be sure the frequency is clear are a much better way to avoid "doubling" transmissions with someone. After all, it only means the individual has stopped talking and nothing more. Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- Nasa uses it, so it must have some purpose... I have a 10 meter rig that has it built in, along with echo and robot voice! The beep is ok but to loud, with no way to adjust it. Brett N2DTS _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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