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I connect my Rx antenna via the BNC below the SO239 outputs. I have a
sub Receiver and have the Rx on the sub and listen to the vertical transmitting antenna on the main with my stereo headset. There are times when I'd like to only hear the Rx antenna and not the vertical and to this point to do that, I turn off the audio from the main receiver & listen with the one ear to the sub Rx. Listening to the transmit antenna with both ears I just don't use the sub rx. The question I'd like to know is: How can I listen to the sub Rx only with both ears? I could do it by inserting a stereo to mono adapter in line but that's going to be bothersome quickly. Any easy & quick way to do this? 73, Gary KA1J --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I have all of my receive antennas switchable into the sub RX or the rx input (a six by two matrix in my case) K9ay makes a box that can do this or you can build your own. K9ay has a preamp in his box so that there is no loss of level when both inputs are on the same antenna. The RX ant switch will toggle the main receiver between receive antenna(s) and the tx antenna. The diversity feature of listening on the same frequency with different antenna in each ear makes it possible to pick out stations in the sound field. On good nights it's really obvious when a station is not on this continent with one dash or dot.
Sent via iPhone > On Jan 31, 2014, at 8:57 PM, "Gary Smith" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I connect my Rx antenna via the BNC below the SO239 outputs. I have a > sub Receiver and have the Rx on the sub and listen to the vertical > transmitting antenna on the main with my stereo headset. > > There are times when I'd like to only hear the Rx antenna and not the > vertical and to this point to do that, I turn off the audio from the > main receiver & listen with the one ear to the sub Rx. > > Listening to the transmit antenna with both ears I just don't use the > sub rx. The question I'd like to know is: How can I listen to the sub > Rx only with both ears? I could do it by inserting a stereo to mono > adapter in line but that's going to be bothersome quickly. Any easy & > quick way to do this? > > 73, > > Gary > KA1J > > > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hello Brian,
I was hoping there would be a way to do this selectively within the confines of the K3 and not use something external. I found in the last 160M contest that there were many DX I could hear on the Rx antenna as it is "steerable" while the Inv-L picks up sounds equally from all directions. I found I could almost completely eliminate stateside QRM if I listened only through the Rx antenna and aimed it towards the DX but it could only be heard in one ear. Considering the high amount of QRM coming in on the Inv-L and the high amount of desired signals coming in on the Rx, I needed to shut off the noise in the Inv-L & hear with both ears, the DX on the Rx antenna. Funny thing for me about the diversity mode; I use it but not often because of the signal loss when diversity is engaged. What I find I prefer is to link the two receivers and use the sub. This allows a better sounding signal to me and its in sync so there's no offset in the Rx. I let my head do the "diversity" and it seems to work really well. About the only time I use diversity is when there is a wide split the XIT won't reach and the DX is faint on the main antenna. Then I'll go split find a hole in the pileup, perch there and go into diversity so I can still hear the DX on their transmit freq till the band changes. The twin receivers & diversity is a very cool thing. Gary, KA1J > I have all of my receive antennas switchable into the sub RX or the rx input (a six by two matrix in my case) K9ay makes a box that can do this or you can build your own. K9ay has a preamp in his box so that there is no loss of level when both inputs are on the same antenna. The RX ant switch will toggle the main receiver between receive antenna(s) and the tx antenna. The diversity feature of listening on the same frequency with different antenna in each ear makes it possible to pick out stations in the sound field. On good nights it's really obvious when a station is not on this continent with one dash or dot. > > > On Jan 31, 2014, at 8:57 PM, "Gary Smith" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > I connect my Rx antenna via the BNC below the SO239 outputs. I have a > > sub Receiver and have the Rx on the sub and listen to the vertical > > transmitting antenna on the main with my stereo headset. > > > > There are times when I'd like to only hear the Rx antenna and not the > > vertical and to this point to do that, I turn off the audio from the > > main receiver & listen with the one ear to the sub Rx. > > > > Listening to the transmit antenna with both ears I just don't use the > > sub rx. The question I'd like to know is: How can I listen to the sub > > Rx only with both ears? I could do it by inserting a stereo to mono > > adapter in line but that's going to be bothersome quickly. Any easy & > > quick way to do this? > > > > 73, > > > > Gary > > KA1J > > > > > > > > > > --- > > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. > > http://www.avast.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi Gary,
You didn't indicate if you are running split or diversity. Here's a solution if you are in diversity. There are times that you would like the RX ANT to be steered to both your MAIN RX and SUB RX. I do that with a splitter on my RX antenna cable. One leg goes to the AUX RF BNC socket for the SUB RX and the other leg goes to the RX ANT IN BNC socket on the KXV3A board. When I want to use my RX antenna for both receivers I press the RX ANT button. I'm still in diversity but I'm using the same antenna for both ears. 73, Mike K2MK
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David,
Its a Hi-Z Triangular array, it is only a rx antenna, not for transmit. Used to be sold by Hi-Z themselves but now sold are now sold albeit at a higher price by DXEngineering. You can read about their antennas here: http://www.hizantennas.com There are links on their antenna pages to DXEngineering to purchase the one of your choice. I chose the triangular array because it offers 6 directions of forward & of course, 6 opposite directions of null. They have other options which may suit you better depending on your spare pounds and QTH. Look on eham for reviews: http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11548 The following link also but it reviews several of their systems: http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/8579 I am extremely happy with this triangular array with the K3; lower price and very effective. Hi-Z notes they are for low band use but I have found them a godsend on the upper bands as well for I have no beam and use wire antennas hung in not very tall trees. If you are looking for even better performance but only 4 directions, their 4 square gets very high ratings. Their 8 element gives the 4 square performance but with eight directions to chose from. And... their 8 element comes in two different varieties optimised for 80 or 160M. 73, > Gary > > I am very interested in your 'steerable' antenna for 160m, would you care to > advise what you are using? > > 73 > > David > G3UNA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Smith" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 7:03 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Rx antenna > > > > Hello Brian, > > > > I was hoping there would be a way to do this selectively within the > > confines of the K3 and not use something external. I found in the > > last 160M contest that there were many DX I could hear on the Rx > > antenna as it is "steerable" while the Inv-L picks up sounds equally > > from all directions. I found I could almost completely eliminate > > stateside QRM if I listened only through the Rx antenna and aimed it > > towards the DX but it could only be heard in one ear. > > > > Considering the high amount of QRM coming in on the Inv-L and the > > high amount of desired signals coming in on the Rx, I needed to shut > > off the noise in the Inv-L & hear with both ears, the DX on the Rx > > antenna. > > > > Funny thing for me about the diversity mode; I use it but not often > > because of the signal loss when diversity is engaged. What I find I > > prefer is to link the two receivers and use the sub. This allows a > > better sounding signal to me and its in sync so there's no offset in > > the Rx. I let my head do the "diversity" and it seems to work really > > well. > > > > About the only time I use diversity is when there is a wide split the > > XIT won't reach and the DX is faint on the main antenna. Then I'll go > > split find a hole in the pileup, perch there and go into diversity so > > I can still hear the DX on their transmit freq till the band changes. > > The twin receivers & diversity is a very cool thing. > > > > Gary, KA1J > > > >> I have all of my receive antennas switchable into the sub RX or the > > rx input (a six by two matrix in my case) K9ay makes a box that can > > do this or you can build your own. K9ay has a preamp in his box so > > that there is no loss of level when both inputs are on the same > > antenna. The RX ant switch will toggle the main receiver between > > receive antenna(s) and the tx antenna. The diversity feature of > > listening on the same frequency with different antenna in each ear > > makes it possible to pick out stations in the sound field. On good > > nights it's really obvious when a station is not on this continent > > with one dash or dot. > > > > > >> > >> > On Jan 31, 2014, at 8:57 PM, "Gary Smith" <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> > > >> > I connect my Rx antenna via the BNC below the SO239 outputs. I have a > >> > sub Receiver and have the Rx on the sub and listen to the vertical > >> > transmitting antenna on the main with my stereo headset. > >> > > >> > There are times when I'd like to only hear the Rx antenna and not the > >> > vertical and to this point to do that, I turn off the audio from the > >> > main receiver & listen with the one ear to the sub Rx. > >> > > >> > Listening to the transmit antenna with both ears I just don't use the > >> > sub rx. The question I'd like to know is: How can I listen to the sub > >> > Rx only with both ears? I could do it by inserting a stereo to mono > >> > adapter in line but that's going to be bothersome quickly. Any easy & > >> > quick way to do this? > >> > > >> > 73, > >> > > >> > Gary > >> > KA1J > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --- > >> > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > >> > protection is active. > >> > http://www.avast.com > >> > > >> > ______________________________________________________________ > >> > Elecraft mailing list > >> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >> > > >> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- > > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > > protection is active. > > http://www.avast.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi Mike,
What you're suggesting sounds like a good idea. I don't often use diversity because of the dB loss and the stations I am usually trying to work are the faintest ones out there. instead, I use the two receivers linked on the same frequency, that gives me the best sensitivity and I just listen in stereo. My goal is to be able to select the option of hearing from only the Rx antenna and nothing from the transmit antenna. I use my Rx as a beam in that I can null out undesirable signals &/or peak the station I am listening to. The transmit antenna hears 360 degrees and I want to at times eliminate that. I figured with all the options on the K3 that there would be an easily selectable way to hear the Rx antenna on both receivers just like you can hear only the Tx antenna on both receivers. And maybe you can? I haven't figured out how to do that if it is built in. 73, Gary KA1J > Hi Gary, > > You didn't indicate if you are running split or diversity. Here's a solution > if you are in diversity. > > There are times that you would like the RX ANT to be steered to both your > MAIN RX and SUB RX. I do that with a splitter on my RX antenna cable. One > leg goes to the AUX RF BNC socket for the SUB RX and the other leg goes to > the RX ANT IN BNC socket on the KXV3A board. When I want to use my RX > antenna for both receivers I press the RX ANT button. I'm still in diversity > but I'm using the same antenna for both ears. > > 73, > Mike K2MK > > > > Gary Smith-2 wrote > > I connect my Rx antenna via the BNC below the SO239 outputs. I have a > > sub Receiver and have the Rx on the sub and listen to the vertical > > transmitting antenna on the main with my stereo headset. > > > > There are times when I'd like to only hear the Rx antenna and not the > > vertical and to this point to do that, I turn off the audio from the > > main receiver & listen with the one ear to the sub Rx. > > > > Listening to the transmit antenna with both ears I just don't use the > > sub rx. The question I'd like to know is: How can I listen to the sub > > Rx only with both ears? I could do it by inserting a stereo to mono > > adapter in line but that's going to be bothersome quickly. Any easy & > > quick way to do this? > > > > 73, > > Gary > > KA1J > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Rx-antenna-tp7583554p7583564.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Gary, If you want to hear the same antenna in both ears, connect it to the RX IN jack and press RX ANT on the Main RX. Yes, you will see a 3 dB "loss" due to the splitting on both receivers but that's unavoidable *anytime* you feed a single antenna to both receivers. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2/1/2014 8:37 AM, Gary Smith wrote: > Hi Mike, > > What you're suggesting sounds like a good idea. I don't often use > diversity because of the dB loss and the stations I am usually trying > to work are the faintest ones out there. instead, I use the two > receivers linked on the same frequency, that gives me the best > sensitivity and I just listen in stereo. > > My goal is to be able to select the option of hearing from only the > Rx antenna and nothing from the transmit antenna. I use my Rx as a > beam in that I can null out undesirable signals &/or peak the station > I am listening to. The transmit antenna hears 360 degrees and I want > to at times eliminate that. I figured with all the options on the K3 > that there would be an easily selectable way to hear the Rx antenna > on both receivers just like you can hear only the Tx antenna on both > receivers. And maybe you can? I haven't figured out how to do that if > it is built in. > > 73, > > Gary > KA1J > >> Hi Gary, >> >> You didn't indicate if you are running split or diversity. Here's a solution >> if you are in diversity. >> >> There are times that you would like the RX ANT to be steered to both your >> MAIN RX and SUB RX. I do that with a splitter on my RX antenna cable. One >> leg goes to the AUX RF BNC socket for the SUB RX and the other leg goes to >> the RX ANT IN BNC socket on the KXV3A board. When I want to use my RX >> antenna for both receivers I press the RX ANT button. I'm still in diversity >> but I'm using the same antenna for both ears. >> >> 73, >> Mike K2MK >> >> >> >> Gary Smith-2 wrote >>> I connect my Rx antenna via the BNC below the SO239 outputs. I have a >>> sub Receiver and have the Rx on the sub and listen to the vertical >>> transmitting antenna on the main with my stereo headset. >>> >>> There are times when I'd like to only hear the Rx antenna and not the >>> vertical and to this point to do that, I turn off the audio from the >>> main receiver & listen with the one ear to the sub Rx. >>> >>> Listening to the transmit antenna with both ears I just don't use the >>> sub rx. The question I'd like to know is: How can I listen to the sub >>> Rx only with both ears? I could do it by inserting a stereo to mono >>> adapter in line but that's going to be bothersome quickly. Any easy & >>> quick way to do this? >>> >>> 73, >>> Gary >>> KA1J >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Rx-antenna-tp7583554p7583564.html >> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi there Paul,
Mike K2MK mentioned that & Joe, W4TV along the same line. I made up the pieces today and did as was suggested. Indeed this is exactly what I wanted to do with the K3 & the directional Rx antenna, mission accomplished. Now I can null out offending stations sometimes to the point of really not hearing them to a level that is bothersome. There were some SOBs intentionally QRMing FT5ZM on 160 and while I didn't work him there I was able to null some of the QRM to the point I could hear him. On diversity I still heard the QRMers over his signal. (What unhappy people those QRMers must be to live every day with that defect in their thoughts, but I digress) In the absence of intentional QRM I would have been able to have heard them marvelously with diversity. My concern with the dB loss is only when it comes to the faintest of stations which is what I like to work, I like the most difficult ones to pull out because they are the most interesting ones to me; DX, QRP or someone with a really compromised location, that gives me the greatest pleasure and when such signals are in the mud, 3 dB is a lot of loss. When copying a signal that moves the meter the loss is no problem. All these options to select what antenna configuration to use with the K3 & its sub receiver are tools each has unique benefits & liabilities, sometimes a different choice lets me make the Q. Thanks to everyone who replied. 73, Gary KA1J > Hi Gary, > > I also have the Hi-Z triangle array and K3. I use a splitter to feed > the receive antenna to the Aux-In and RX-In ports. > > About your concern of the 3 db loss when using a splitter -- is this > really a problem since you are reducing both the noise and the signal > by 3 db? I find I stll have enough gain to hear noise, so I feel if the > signal was above noise, I will not lose any ability to hear the signal > when I use the splitter. > > 73, > Paul - K5ESW > Raleigh, NC > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > What you're suggesting sounds like a good idea. I don't often use > > diversity because of the dB loss and the stations I am usually trying > > to work are the faintest ones out there. instead, I use the two > > receivers linked on the same frequency, that gives me the best > > sensitivity and I just listen in stereo. > > > > My goal is to be able to select the option of hearing from only the > > Rx antenna and nothing from the transmit antenna. I use my Rx as a > > beam in that I can null out undesirable signals &/or peak the station > > I am listening to. The transmit antenna hears 360 degrees and I want > > to at times eliminate that. I figured with all the options on the K3 > > that there would be an easily selectable way to hear the Rx antenna > > on both receivers just like you can hear only the Tx antenna on both > > receivers. And maybe you can? I haven't figured out how to do that if > > it is built in. > > > > 73, > > > > Gary > > KA1J > > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > > > You didn't indicate if you are running split or diversity. Here's a solution > > > if you are in diversity. > > > > > > There are times that you would like the RX ANT to be steered to both your > > > MAIN RX and SUB RX. I do that with a splitter on my RX antenna cable. One > > > leg goes to the AUX RF BNC socket for the SUB RX and the other leg goes to > > > the RX ANT IN BNC socket on the KXV3A board. When I want to use my RX > > > antenna for both receivers I press the RX ANT button. I'm still in diversity > > > but I'm using the same antenna for both ears. > > > > > > 73, > > > Mike K2MK > > > > > > > > > > > > Gary Smith-2 wrote > > > > I connect my Rx antenna via the BNC below the SO239 outputs. I have a > > > > sub Receiver and have the Rx on the sub and listen to the vertical > > > > transmitting antenna on the main with my stereo headset. > > > > > > > > There are times when I'd like to only hear the Rx antenna and not the > > > > vertical and to this point to do that, I turn off the audio from the > > > > main receiver & listen with the one ear to the sub Rx. > > > > > > > > Listening to the transmit antenna with both ears I just don't use the > > > > sub rx. The question I'd like to know is: How can I listen to the sub > > > > Rx only with both ears? I could do it by inserting a stereo to mono > > > > adapter in line but that's going to be bothersome quickly. Any easy & > > > > quick way to do this? > > > > > > > > 73, > > > > Gary > > > > KA1J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Rx-antenna-tp7583554p7583564.html > > > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. > > http://www.avast.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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The question, particularly on the lower bands is signal to noise
ratio and not absolute receive strength. While connecting a receive antennas to two radios will involve a 3db loss, that loss will be to both the signal and the noise. The signal to noise ratio will be unchanged. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV On 2/2/14 at 11:05 PM, [hidden email] (Gary Smith) wrote: >My concern with the dB loss is only when it comes to the >faintest of stations which is what I like to work, I like the >most difficult ones to pull out because they are the most >interesting ones to me; DX, QRP or someone with a really >compromised location, that gives me the greatest pleasure and >when such signals are in the mud, 3 dB is a lot of loss. When >copying a signal that moves the meter the loss is no problem. >All these options to select what antenna configuration to use >with the K3 & its sub receiver are tools each has unique >benefits & liabilities, sometimes a different choice lets me >make the Q. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz |Security, like correctness, is| Periwinkle (408)356-8506 |not an add-on feature. - Attr-| 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com |ibuted to Andrew Tanenbaum | Los Gatos, CA 95032 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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