K3 - Spontaneously changing config?

[Joe Planisky]

I seem to recall a few postings to the list where it seemed that some  
problem was caused by a wrong config setting but the person didn't  
recall explicitly changing the setting.  Since the rig is new to many  
people, my assumption is usually that they inadvertently changed a  
setting while exploring the config menus.  It's easy enough to bump  
the main tuning knob when reaching for the VFO B knob.  Now I'm not so  
sure.

This afternoon I turned on my K3 and was surprised when I hit the band-
down button and went from 30m to 80m.  Several weeks ago I had locked  
out 60m, but 40m is one of my most used bands (used as recently as  
this morning). I checked the Band Map and sure enough, 40m was OUT.  
Since I haven't been in the config menu for quite a while, I don't  
think there's any way I could have inadvertently changed that  
particular configuration item.   The only thing I've done recently  
besides normal operation is I loaded the latest beta firmware (2.67)  
this morning.  Now I'm wondering if that could have somehow caused  
this configuration change.

Has anyone else noticed inappropriate configuration changes after  
loading new firmware?

73
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Joe KB8AP


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[ab2tc]

Yes, I am also convinced that some configuration settings spontaneously change when upgrading firmware. Unfortunately so far I have not been good at making notes when this happens, but I will next time.

Joe Planisky wrote

I seem to recall a few postings to the list where it seemed that some  
problem was caused by a wrong config setting but the person didn't  
recall explicitly changing the setting.  Since the rig is new to many  
people, my assumption is usually that they inadvertently changed a  
setting while exploring the config menus.  It's easy enough to bump  
the main tuning knob when reaching for the VFO B knob.  Now I'm not so  
sure.

This afternoon I turned on my K3 and was surprised when I hit the band-
down button and went from 30m to 80m.  Several weeks ago I had locked  
out 60m, but 40m is one of my most used bands (used as recently as  
this morning). I checked the Band Map and sure enough, 40m was OUT.  
Since I haven't been in the config menu for quite a while, I don't  
think there's any way I could have inadvertently changed that  
particular configuration item.   The only thing I've done recently  
besides normal operation is I loaded the latest beta firmware (2.67)  
this morning.  Now I'm wondering if that could have somehow caused  
this configuration change.

Has anyone else noticed inappropriate configuration changes after  
loading new firmware?

73
--
Joe KB8AP

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[drewko]

On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:20:48 -0800, Joe KB8AP wrote:

>
>Has anyone else noticed inappropriate configuration changes after  
>loading new firmware?
>
>73

No, not after loading firmware, but changes in band mapping can occur
when you stray out of the ham bands. For example:

If you have 80/40/30/20 mapped "IN", then go jumping between the
49/31/25 meter SWBC bands(either by direct frequency entry or memory
recall), you will subsequently find that BAND UP/DOWN only selects
among 80/25/20 meters. What has happened is this: 30m has been
transformed into 25m;  40m has been transformed into 49m and mapped
"OUT".

So, going out of the ham bands is a sure way to jumble up the band
scheme. It is easier to recover if you have some anchor freqs for each
ham band programmed into the M1-M4 buttons.

73,
Drew
AF2Z


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[K7TV]

Right after a firmware change a few weeks ago I noticed that my in-band
(band segment) settings for M1 through M3 had disappeared for all the bands.
Cause and effect not proven.

73,
Erik K7TV

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>
> Yes, I am also convinced that some configuration settings spontaneously
> change when upgrading firmware. Unfortunately so far I have not been good
> at
> making notes when this happens, but I will next time.
>
>


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[Julian, G4ILO]

I'm pretty sure this has happened to me a few times as well. The trouble is that I can never remember what I did that might have caused the problem, and since I can't enumerate the steps used to reproduce it there doesn't seem to be much point in reporting it.

[Joe Planisky]

Ordinarily I would agree with you, Julian.  The only difference in my  
case, and the reason I reported it, was that I knew it happened in a  
relatively narrow window of time and I knew that there was virtually  
no chance that I had caused it through any legitimate action.  I think  
it bears watching to see whether these are rare and random occurrences  
or if there is a more systemic problem here.

73
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Joe KB8AP


On Nov 28, 2008, at 2:22 AM, Julian, G4ILO wrote:

>
> I'm pretty sure this has happened to me a few times as well. The  
> trouble is
> that I can never remember what I did that might have caused the  
> problem, and
> since I can't enumerate the steps used to reproduce it there doesn't  
> seem to
> be much point in reporting it.
>
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[Pete Connors F5VNB]

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[Adam Koczarski]

> -----Original Message-----
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> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Peter Connors, F5VNB
> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 12:28 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Spontaneously changing config?
>
> Down the years I have found that flashing a new BIOS on computer
> motherboards can also occasionally generate a surprise change or two.
> Why this should be I have never discovered but, eg, having your boot
> media priority changed can cause a distraught hour or two for the
> unwary.

Good motherboard flashing software reads, converts and restores your
settings into the newly flashed BIOS. Not all flashing programs are "good".
:)

Adam - ka7ark


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[Phil and Christina]

I must be missing something simple, but I can't seem to get the K3 into
ESSB.  I go to the TX ESSB menu item with knob B in the Config menu.  The A
display shows "OFF   X.X", where X.X is a BW number between 3.0 and 4.0.
The A knob lets me change the BW number, but I can't toggle to "ON".  What
am I missing?  Thanks,

Phil
NS7P

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[Burl Borcherding]

To turn on ESSB, bring up the menu item and tap "1" to toggle it on or off.

Burl,  AJ9Q

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>I must be missing something simple, but I can't seem to get the K3 into
> ESSB.  I go to the TX ESSB menu item with knob B in the Config menu.  The
> A
> display shows "OFF   X.X", where X.X is a BW number between 3.0 and 4.0.
> The A knob lets me change the BW number, but I can't toggle to "ON".  What
> am I missing?  Thanks,
>
> Phil
> NS7P
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[Phil and Christina]

Mnay thanks to those that answered that I needed merely to use the "1"
toggle key.  I had forgotten about that.  Chalk it up to a senior moment.

73,

Phil, NS7P

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I must be missing something simple, but I can't seem to get the K3 into
ESSB.  I go to the TX ESSB menu item with knob B in the Config menu.  The A
display shows "OFF   X.X", where X.X is a BW number between 3.0 and 4.0.
The A knob lets me change the BW number, but I can't toggle to "ON".  What
am I missing?  Thanks,

Phil
NS7P

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[Paul-285]

>Down the years I have found that flashing a new BIOS on computer
>motherboards can also occasionally generate a surprise change or
>two. Why this should be I have never discovered but, eg, having your
>boot media priority changed can cause a distraught hour or two for the unwary.

Yeah, the rule of thumb is leave the bios alone unless you have a
really good reason for updating it.

Paul N4LCD



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