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Mike Scott-7

K3 Sub Rx idea

I have been using the K3 sub rx for a while now.

What I would like to see is a totally interchangeable main and sub. I want to be able to switch sub for main in a way that the sub rx is acting like the main without a shadow of a difference. Right now if I press Sub I can change sub rx settings but I can’t change frequency for example.

I would like to be able to operate as if the Sub were main and the Main were Sub and vice versus perhaps by pressing a single button.

Mike Scott

AE6WA Tarzana, CA

K3/100 SN508

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Greg - AB7R

Re: K3 Sub Rx idea

Hmmm... Try A/B ???

Greg

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Sub Rx idea

I have been using the K3 sub rx for a while now.

What I would like to see is a totally interchangeable main and sub. I want to be able to switch sub for main in a way that the sub rx is acting like the main without a shadow of a difference. Right now if I press Sub I can change sub rx settings but I can’t change frequency for example.

I would like to be able to operate as if the Sub were main and the Main were Sub and vice versus perhaps by pressing a single button.

Mike Scott

AE6WA Tarzana, CA

K3/100 SN508

Bill Steffey NY9H

Re: K3 Sub Rx idea

In reply to this post by Mike Scott-7

I'm certain Eric remembers that I asked him the same thing at Dayton
when they first showed the K3... flip all the parameters back and
forth between the two receivers...
or something like that ...

but we will have to wait in line for more important things...for a while

bill

At 08:40 PM 1/30/2009, Mike Scott wrote:

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>I have been using the K3 sub rx for a while now.
>What I would like to see is a totally interchangeable main and sub.
>I want to be able to switch sub for main in a way that the sub rx is
>acting like the main without a shadow of a difference. Right now if
>I press Sub I can change sub rx settings but I can't change
>frequency for example.
>I would like to be able to operate as if the Sub were main and the
>Main were Sub and vice versus perhaps by pressing a single button.
>
>Mike Scott
>AE6WA Tarzana, CA
>K3/100 SN508
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wayne burdick

Re: K3 Sub Rx idea

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I believe what Mike is asking for is to have BSET mode be more
comprehensive -- to include things like direct frequency entry and all
of the other controls that are normally accessible only for the main
receiver.

The BSET switch *is* intended as a context swap that allows the front
panel to control the sub receiver. It already allows control of many
sub receiver parameters, including the DSP controls, mode, preamp,
attenuator, and antenna selection. As part of the sub receiver
band-independence feature (which I'm working on right now), I'll be
adding additional controls to BSET. I've already added BAND change and
noise blanker control.

I hope to have a beta version of this code available within a week or
two. It mostly works, but I have some refinement to do before I let it
out of the lab.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

>> I have been using the K3 sub rx for a while now.
>> What I would like to see is a totally interchangeable main and sub.
>> I want to be able to switch sub for main in a way that the sub rx is
>> acting like the main without a shadow of a difference. Right now if
>> I press Sub I can change sub rx settings but I can't change
>> frequency for example.
>> I would like to be able to operate as if the Sub were main and the
>> Main were Sub and vice versus perhaps by pressing a single button.

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Milt -- N5IA

Re: K3 Sub Rx idea

Wayne,

The most undesireable aspect of BSET is the fact that the communication with
the computer is interrupted. The logging program dispays a pop-up window
indicating lost communication if BSET is in use for more than a few seconds.
At least that is my experience while using N1MM.

Milt, N5IA

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> The BSET switch *is* intended as a context swap that allows the front
> panel to control the sub receiver. It already allows control of many

> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR

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ab2tc

Re: K3 Sub Rx idea

Hi all,

Isn't it much easier to use A/B, do your stuff and then swap back again? I don't have the subreceiver, but I use the B VFO a lot and always use the swap, do, swap method for everything. B SET is another button I simply never use. Another redundant button to me is the REV button.

Milt Jensen, N5IA wrote

Wayne,

The most undesireable aspect of BSET is the fact that the communication with
the computer is interrupted. The logging program dispays a pop-up window
indicating lost communication if BSET is in use for more than a few seconds.
At least that is my experience while using N1MM.

Milt, N5IA
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wayne burdick

Re: K3 Sub Rx idea

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In reply to this post by Milt -- N5IA

I'm gradually weeding out commands that don't work in BSET mode. Until
then, you might want to do A/B, change the setup, then A/B again.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Jan 31, 2009, at 6:40 AM, Milt, N5IA wrote:

> Wayne,
>
> The most undesireable aspect of BSET is the fact that the
> communication with the computer is interrupted. The logging program
> dispays a pop-up window indicating lost communication if BSET is in
> use for more than a few seconds. At least that is my experience while
> using N1MM.
>
> Milt, N5IA
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "wayne burdick" <[hidden email]>
>
>> The BSET switch *is* intended as a context swap that allows the front
>> panel to control the sub receiver. It already allows control of many
>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>
>
>

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Milt -- N5IA

Re: K3 Sub Rx idea

GM Wayne,

I understand A/B and the swap per AB2TC's comment. But there are some of
the settings which do not follow. I know you know and will address them if
at all possible. It was just my dos centavos thrown into the pile.

73, and thanks de Milt, N5IA

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> I'm gradually weeding out commands that don't work in BSET mode. Until
> then, you might want to do A/B, change the setup, then A/B again.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2009, at 6:40 AM, Milt, N5IA wrote:
>
>> Wayne,
>>
>> The most undesireable aspect of BSET is the fact that the
>> communication with the computer is interrupted. The logging program
>> dispays a pop-up window indicating lost communication if BSET is in
>> use for more than a few seconds. At least that is my experience while
>> using N1MM.
>>
>> Milt, N5IA
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "wayne burdick" <[hidden email]>
>>
>>> The BSET switch *is* intended as a context swap that allows the front
>>> panel to control the sub receiver. It already allows control of many
>>
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>
>>
>>
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Bill W4ZV

Re: K3 Sub Rx idea

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ab2tc wrote

Another redundant button to me is the REV button.

You must never work DX in split pileups...else you aren't locating your RX where the DX is listening. If you depend on A/B to do this, you'll inevitably transmit on top of the DX station.

73, Bill

M0XDF

Re: K3 Sub Rx idea

Could that have meant redundant when the KRX3 is installed?
I kinda wonder, there is the A/B button, what does REV give you that A/
B doesn't?
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mistake when you make it again. -Franklin P. Jones

On 31 Jan 2009, at 18:52, Bill W4ZV wrote:
> ab2tc wrote:
>>
>> Another redundant button to me is the REV button.
> You must never work DX in split pileups...else you aren't locating
> your RX
> where the DX is listening. If you depend on A/B to do this, you'll
> inevitably transmit on top of the DX station.

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Re: K3 Sub Rx idea

David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote

Could that have meant redundant when the KRX3 is installed?

Possibly, but I have a KRX3 and leave my K3 in diversity continuously. REV still works great in split pileups with diversity on (to better copy weak DX signals).

David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote

I kinda wonder, there is the A/B button, what does REV give you that A/
B doesn't?

The difference is that REV is momentary (as long as you hold the button) and returns when you release it. A/B must be toggled each time to swap TX<>RX which guarantees you will eventually transmit on the DX station's frequency when you forget to toggle.

REV can also ensure you don't accidentally bump VFO A off of the DX station. Tune in the DX station with VFO A, LOCK, and then use REV to set the TX on VFO B (using the BIG knob). You can move your TX frequency as long as REV is depressed and VFO A stays locked on the DX station.

This is not something new. Kenwood's TS-930S had it in the early 80s as "TF-SET" and I believe Icom calls it "XFC" (Transmit Frequency Check). It's still very useful even with a KRX3 if you like to leave diversity engaged as I do.

73, Bill