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David Fleming-2

I've had a few requests for the K3 time updater I mentioned the other day.  So I've made it available for download.

Mac version (OS X 10.3 or later) http://sight.net/K3Time/K3Time.zip

Windows XP/VISTA (maybe 98 not sure) http://sight.net/K3Time/K3TimeWin.zip

It's very easy to use and should be self-explanatory.

Select the appropriate serial port and baud rate the first time the program is run. It will remember these settings, so they need to be set only once.

To display UTC time, click the "UTC" checkbox. To return to local time, uncheck it. Be sure the computer's system clock is set properly, and if applicable, set for Daylight Savings Time.

To setup unattended updates, click the "Auto-Update" checkbox. This will automatically update the time on the K3 whenever the program is run (if the K3 is attached and turned on, of course). When Auto-Update is enabled the program will automatically send the current system time to the K3 and then terminate after a 10 second delay. The delay allows time to turn off auto-update if need be. On Windows, you could use "Scheduled Tasks" in the control panel to set a time schedule for automatic execution of the program. On the Mac, a cron job (crontab) could be used. Cronnix is a nice Aqua frontend for cron if you're not familiar with creating crontabs from Terminal. I'm not sure how well the K3 clock keeps time. I never use it. But I would think updating the time once a week or even once a month would be sufficient.

Click the "Update K3" button to send the current system time to the K3.

That's all there is to it. The K3 time will not be *exact* with the computer, but it will get it close (within 0.5 second or so). I get the best results by clicking the update button as soon as a new second begins. Waiting until late into a second will result in the K3 being a second behind. Try clicking the update button several times until you get a good visual sync.

I've done very little testing of the Windows version. There could be bugs.

The program works by sending a sequence of CAT commands to the K3. Clicking "Update K3" begins this sequence:

K31;   // Enables K3 extended mode
MN073; // Enters CONFIG:TIME Menu option
DS;    // reads VFO A display area (now displaying TIME)

Parse DS; command response to get K3 HOUR, MINUTE and SECOND.

Determine computer HOUR, MINUTE and SECOND.

SWT13; // select SECOND

UP; or DN; until K3 SECOND = computer SECOND

SWT12; // select MINUTE

UP; or DN; until K3 MINUTE = computer MINUTE

SWT11; // select HOUR

UP; or DN; until K3 HOUR = computer HOUR

MN255; // exit menu

DONE..

--------------------

Enjoy,

David, W4SMT


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Re: K3 Time Keeper v0.1

Dick Dievendorff
Way cool!  Congratulations, David!

Dick, K6KR


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Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:50 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Time Keeper v0.1


I've had a few requests for the K3 time updater I mentioned the other day.
So I've made it available for download.

Mac version (OS X 10.3 or later) http://sight.net/K3Time/K3Time.zip

Windows XP/VISTA (maybe 98 not sure) http://sight.net/K3Time/K3TimeWin.zip

It's very easy to use and should be self-explanatory.

Select the appropriate serial port and baud rate the first time the program
is run. It will remember these settings, so they need to be set only once.

To display UTC time, click the "UTC" checkbox. To return to local time,
uncheck it. Be sure the computer's system clock is set properly, and if
applicable, set for Daylight Savings Time.

To setup unattended updates, click the "Auto-Update" checkbox. This will
automatically update the time on the K3 whenever the program is run (if the
K3 is attached and turned on, of course). When Auto-Update is enabled the
program will automatically send the current system time to the K3 and then
terminate after a 10 second delay. The delay allows time to turn off
auto-update if need be. On Windows, you could use "Scheduled Tasks" in the
control panel to set a time schedule for automatic execution of the program.
On the Mac, a cron job (crontab) could be used. Cronnix is a nice Aqua
frontend for cron if you're not familiar with creating crontabs from
Terminal. I'm not sure how well the K3 clock keeps time. I never use it. But
I would think updating the time once a week or even once a month would be
sufficient.

Click the "Update K3" button to send the current system time to the K3.

That's all there is to it. The K3 time will not be *exact* with the
computer, but it will get it close (within 0.5 second or so). I get the best
results by clicking the update button as soon as a new second begins.
Waiting until late into a second will result in the K3 being a second
behind. Try clicking the update button several times until you get a good
visual sync.

I've done very little testing of the Windows version. There could be bugs.

The program works by sending a sequence of CAT commands to the K3. Clicking
"Update K3" begins this sequence:

K31;   // Enables K3 extended mode
MN073; // Enters CONFIG:TIME Menu option
DS;    // reads VFO A display area (now displaying TIME)

Parse DS; command response to get K3 HOUR, MINUTE and SECOND.

Determine computer HOUR, MINUTE and SECOND.

SWT13; // select SECOND

UP; or DN; until K3 SECOND = computer SECOND

SWT12; // select MINUTE

UP; or DN; until K3 MINUTE = computer MINUTE

SWT11; // select HOUR

UP; or DN; until K3 HOUR = computer HOUR

MN255; // exit menu

DONE..

--------------------

Enjoy,

David, W4SMT


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Re: K3 Time Keeper v0.1

Van W1WCG
Tres Kool, indeed, David, and thanks very much for making this available
to all.  Works like a champ!

Van, W1WCG

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Time Keeper v0.1


> Way cool!  Congratulations, David!
>
> Dick, K6KR
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of David Fleming
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:50 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Time Keeper v0.1
>
>
> I've had a few requests for the K3 time updater I mentioned the other day.
> So I've made it available for download.
>
> Mac version (OS X 10.3 or later) http://sight.net/K3Time/K3Time.zip
>
> Windows XP/VISTA (maybe 98 not sure) http://sight.net/K3Time/K3TimeWin.zip
>
> It's very easy to use and should be self-explanatory.
>
> Select the appropriate serial port and baud rate the first time the
> program
> is run. It will remember these settings, so they need to be set only once.
>
> To display UTC time, click the "UTC" checkbox. To return to local time,
> uncheck it. Be sure the computer's system clock is set properly, and if
> applicable, set for Daylight Savings Time.
>
> To setup unattended updates, click the "Auto-Update" checkbox. This will
> automatically update the time on the K3 whenever the program is run (if
> the
> K3 is attached and turned on, of course). When Auto-Update is enabled the
> program will automatically send the current system time to the K3 and then
> terminate after a 10 second delay. The delay allows time to turn off
> auto-update if need be. On Windows, you could use "Scheduled Tasks" in the
> control panel to set a time schedule for automatic execution of the
> program.
> On the Mac, a cron job (crontab) could be used. Cronnix is a nice Aqua
> frontend for cron if you're not familiar with creating crontabs from
> Terminal. I'm not sure how well the K3 clock keeps time. I never use it.
> But
> I would think updating the time once a week or even once a month would be
> sufficient.
>
> Click the "Update K3" button to send the current system time to the K3.
>
> That's all there is to it. The K3 time will not be *exact* with the
> computer, but it will get it close (within 0.5 second or so). I get the
> best
> results by clicking the update button as soon as a new second begins.
> Waiting until late into a second will result in the K3 being a second
> behind. Try clicking the update button several times until you get a good
> visual sync.
>
> I've done very little testing of the Windows version. There could be bugs.
>
> The program works by sending a sequence of CAT commands to the K3.
> Clicking
> "Update K3" begins this sequence:
>
> K31;   // Enables K3 extended mode
> MN073; // Enters CONFIG:TIME Menu option
> DS;    // reads VFO A display area (now displaying TIME)
>
> Parse DS; command response to get K3 HOUR, MINUTE and SECOND.
>
> Determine computer HOUR, MINUTE and SECOND.
>
> SWT13; // select SECOND
>
> UP; or DN; until K3 SECOND = computer SECOND
>
> SWT12; // select MINUTE
>
> UP; or DN; until K3 MINUTE = computer MINUTE
>
> SWT11; // select HOUR
>
> UP; or DN; until K3 HOUR = computer HOUR
>
> MN255; // exit menu
>
> DONE..
>
> --------------------
>
> Enjoy,
>
> David, W4SMT
>
>
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Re: K3 Time Keeper v0.1

Robert Dorchuck
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Thanks David.  Works super.
Bob  W6VY

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Re: K3 Time Keeper v0.1

M0XDF
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David, it works very well here on my Mac.
It does require I use my KUSB and not my microHAM DIGIkeyer - it  
doesn't understand the D/K serial port.

However, how about incorporating this into the K3 utility, so we can  
set the clock whenever we do a firmware upgrade. OK, that's not as  
often as perhaps running K3 Time Keeper, but for those of us that just  
want to keep the K3 clock close to real time, that works and saves me  
remembering to run K3 Time Keeper when I do switch to the KUSB for  
updates. And for others, they can use K3 Time Keeper.

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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account not
only the world as it is, but the world as it will be.
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On 12 Mar 2009, at 01:49, David Fleming wrote:
> I've had a few requests for the K3 time updater I mentioned the  
> other day.  So I've made it available for download.

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Re: K3 Time Keeper v0.1

hb9ari@bluewin.ch
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David,

Thank you for sharing!

Win version work perfectly with my K3 #1212!
(Win XP SP3)

73 QRO de Rudolf, HB9ARI


David Fleming wrote:

> I've had a few requests for the K3 time updater I mentioned the other day.  So I've made it available for download.
>
> Mac version (OS X 10.3 or later) http://sight.net/K3Time/K3Time.zip
>
> Windows XP/VISTA (maybe 98 not sure) http://sight.net/K3Time/K3TimeWin.zip
>
> It's very easy to use and should be self-explanatory.
>
> Select the appropriate serial port and baud rate the first time the program is run. It will remember these settings, so they need to be set only once.
>
> To display UTC time, click the "UTC" checkbox. To return to local time, uncheck it. Be sure the computer's system clock is set properly, and if applicable, set for Daylight Savings Time.
>
> To setup unattended updates, click the "Auto-Update" checkbox. This will automatically update the time on the K3 whenever the program is run (if the K3 is attached and turned on, of course). When Auto-Update is enabled the program will automatically send the current system time to the K3 and then terminate after a 10 second delay. The delay allows time to turn off auto-update if need be. On Windows, you could use "Scheduled Tasks" in the control panel to set a time schedule for automatic execution of the program. On the Mac, a cron job (crontab) could be used. Cronnix is a nice Aqua frontend for cron if you're not familiar with creating crontabs from Terminal. I'm not sure how well the K3 clock keeps time. I never use it. But I would think updating the time once a week or even once a month would be sufficient.
>
> Click the "Update K3" button to send the current system time to the K3.
>
> That's all there is to it. The K3 time will not be *exact* with the computer, but it will get it close (within 0.5 second or so). I get the best results by clicking the update button as soon as a new second begins. Waiting until late into a second will result in the K3 being a second behind. Try clicking the update button several times until you get a good visual sync.
>
> I've done very little testing of the Windows version. There could be bugs.
>
> The program works by sending a sequence of CAT commands to the K3. Clicking "Update K3" begins this sequence:
>
> K31;   // Enables K3 extended mode
> MN073; // Enters CONFIG:TIME Menu option
> DS;    // reads VFO A display area (now displaying TIME)
>
> Parse DS; command response to get K3 HOUR, MINUTE and SECOND.
>
> Determine computer HOUR, MINUTE and SECOND.
>
> SWT13; // select SECOND
>
> UP; or DN; until K3 SECOND = computer SECOND
>
> SWT12; // select MINUTE
>
> UP; or DN; until K3 MINUTE = computer MINUTE
>
> SWT11; // select HOUR
>
> UP; or DN; until K3 HOUR = computer HOUR
>
> MN255; // exit menu
>
> DONE..
>
> --------------------
>
> Enjoy,
>
> David, W4SMT
>
>
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Re: K3 Time Keeper v0.1

David Fleming-2
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> It does require I use my KUSB and not my microHAM DIGIkeyer
> - it doesn't understand the D/K serial port.

I've recently worked out the µH protocol, thanks to lots of help from Kok Chen, W7AY. But I didn't include it in this. Maybe in a future release..
*Maybe*  :)

> However, how about incorporating this into the K3 utility,
> so we can set the clock whenever we do a firmware upgrade.

It's being discussed. We will most likely include something similar in a future release of the K3 Utility.

tnx,

David, W4SMT

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K3 Time Keeper v0.1

Ken Kopp-3
I was hoping that David's "Time Keeper" utility would
be integrated into the Elecraft K3 Utility.

Great idea!  Was going to make a request today .....

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: K3 Time Keeper v0.1

N5GE
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On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:49:38 -0700 (PDT), David Fleming
<[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>I've had a few requests for the K3 time updater I mentioned the other day.  So I've made it available for download.
>
>Mac version (OS X 10.3 or later) http://sight.net/K3Time/K3Time.zip
>
>Windows XP/VISTA (maybe 98 not sure) http://sight.net/K3Time/K3TimeWin.zip
>
[snip]

Works great on XP x64.

Thanks,

Tom, N5GE

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Re: K3 Time Keeper v0.1

Bill Johnson-9
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David,

This is slick!  Great job!


73,

Bill
K9YEQ
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:50 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Time Keeper v0.1


I've had a few requests for the K3 time updater I mentioned the other day.
So I've made it available for download.

Mac version (OS X 10.3 or later) http://sight.net/K3Time/K3Time.zip

Windows XP/VISTA (maybe 98 not sure) http://sight.net/K3Time/K3TimeWin.zip

It's very easy to use and should be self-explanatory.

Select the appropriate serial port and baud rate the first time the program
is run. It will remember these settings, so they need to be set only once.

To display UTC time, click the "UTC" checkbox. To return to local time,
uncheck it. Be sure the computer's system clock is set properly, and if
applicable, set for Daylight Savings Time.

To setup unattended updates, click the "Auto-Update" checkbox. This will
automatically update the time on the K3 whenever the program is run (if the
K3 is attached and turned on, of course). When Auto-Update is enabled the
program will automatically send the current system time to the K3 and then
terminate after a 10 second delay. The delay allows time to turn off
auto-update if need be. On Windows, you could use "Scheduled Tasks" in the
control panel to set a time schedule for automatic execution of the program.
On the Mac, a cron job (crontab) could be used. Cronnix is a nice Aqua
frontend for cron if you're not familiar with creating crontabs from
Terminal. I'm not sure how well the K3 clock keeps time. I never use it. But
I would think updating the time once a week or even once a month would be
sufficient.

Click the "Update K3" button to send the current system time to the K3.

That's all there is to it. The K3 time will not be *exact* with the
computer, but it will get it close (within 0.5 second or so). I get the best
results by clicking the update button as soon as a new second begins.
Waiting until late into a second will result in the K3 being a second
behind. Try clicking the update button several times until you get a good
visual sync.

I've done very little testing of the Windows version. There could be bugs.

The program works by sending a sequence of CAT commands to the K3. Clicking
"Update K3" begins this sequence:

K31;   // Enables K3 extended mode
MN073; // Enters CONFIG:TIME Menu option
DS;    // reads VFO A display area (now displaying TIME)

Parse DS; command response to get K3 HOUR, MINUTE and SECOND.

Determine computer HOUR, MINUTE and SECOND.

SWT13; // select SECOND

UP; or DN; until K3 SECOND = computer SECOND

SWT12; // select MINUTE

UP; or DN; until K3 MINUTE = computer MINUTE

SWT11; // select HOUR

UP; or DN; until K3 HOUR = computer HOUR

MN255; // exit menu

DONE..

--------------------

Enjoy,

David, W4SMT


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Re: K3 Time Keeper v0.1

Dick Dievendorff
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We plan to do this. I'm working on a couple of more extensive features in
the k3 Utility and I'm also working on accessibility issues for our blind
users.  David is one of the K3 Utility authors and we share ideas often.
We'll get there!

In the mean time, David developed a standalone utility that fulfills
whatever immediate need there is or this function.  

Priorities are always under review.  But setting the K3's TOD clock, easy as
it is to implement, hasn't ever been at the top of the list.  

Constantly shifting priorities in development projects is a sure way to
extend the overall schedule and in the end reduce quality.  Feature lists
should be reviewed periodically.  I do have a list, and the TOD clock effort
is on that list.  It's not at the top.

73 de Dick, K6KR


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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Time Keeper v0.1

I was hoping that David's "Time Keeper" utility would
be integrated into the Elecraft K3 Utility.

Great idea!  Was going to make a request today .....

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: K3 Time Keeper v0.1

Ed Muns, W0YK
> We plan to do this. I'm working on a couple of more extensive
> features in the k3 Utility and I'm also working on
> accessibility issues for our blind users.  David is one of
> the K3 Utility authors and we share ideas often.
> We'll get there!
>
> In the mean time, David developed a standalone utility that
> fulfills whatever immediate need there is or this function.  
>
> Priorities are always under review.  But setting the K3's TOD
> clock, easy as it is to implement, hasn't ever been at the
> top of the list.  
>
> Constantly shifting priorities in development projects is a
> sure way to extend the overall schedule and in the end reduce
> quality.  Feature lists should be reviewed periodically.  I
> do have a list, and the TOD clock effort is on that list.  
> It's not at the top.

I'm looking forward to this enhancement.  It will be very useful.  Isn't it
great that Dick, Lyle, Wayne and other K3 designers are pumping out
improvements continually?  I'm kinda glad "everything" isn't already done
because the K3 just keeps getting better.  While we're looking forward to
the new stuff, it is really impressive to look backward at all that has been
accomplished the past two years.

Ed - W0YK

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k3fixtime command line utility for Linux (python)

Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU
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In reply to this post by David Fleming-2
Here's a quick Linux program in Python, written after reading David's
description below and a few minutes consultation with the K3
Programmer's Manual.

Follow the installation instructions, and then just type "k3fixtime"
when you want the time fixed.

http://wa5znu.org/log/2009/03/python-k3lib-update.html

The library provides a few other command-line utilities for the K3, plus
a Python programming interface.
I'll likely make it work on other operating systems eventually, but if
someone else wants to take on the task that'd be great too.

Leigh/WA5ZNU

David, W4SMT wrote:

> I've had a few requests for the K3 time updater I mentioned the other day.  So I've made it available for download.
>
> Mac version (OS X 10.3 or later) http://sight.net/K3Time/K3Time.zip
>
> Windows XP/VISTA (maybe 98 not sure) http://sight.net/K3Time/K3TimeWin.zip
>
> It's very easy to use and should be self-explanatory.
>  

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