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K3 Utility and OS X Lion

David Fleming-2
I've received several emails concerning the compatibility of the K3 Utility for Mac with OS X Lion. I installed Lion on my development iMac and initial tests show no issues with the K3 Utility, P3 Utility and W2 Utility. Everything seems to be working FB.

There are already plenty of comprehensive reviews of Lion out there. I wanted to mention a couple of my observations that you might find useful. The online upgrade was an interesting experience. It was much like downloading apps on the iPhone and iPad. At 3.74 GB, the download took about 45 minutes over my fairly speedy Cox Cable connection. I don't know how dial-up folks will fare (if there are any Mac users still on dial-up). Not very well I suspect. Once the download was complete, after I kicked off the installer and clicked past the license agreement,  the installation took about 25-30 minutes.  One of the first things I noticed, other than the new "natural" scrolling, which you will either love or hate, is the fact that the User Library folder is now hidden. I suppose Apple did this to prevent new users from inadvertently deleting this important folder. The K3 Utility (and many other apps) use the ~/Library/Application Support folder to store
 application data. I find myself navigating to the Library folder very often. I was a bit panicky when I thought it was no longer there! Turns out it is still there, but it is now hidden. This is very easy to fix by opening up the Terminal and typing in this line:

chflags nohidden ~/Library

If you want to hide it again:

chflags hidden ~/Library

Scrollbars have been removed and now only subtly appear when you are actually scrolling (ala iOS). Once you get used to the natural scrolling of list views and windows there is no going back. As I mentioned above, you'll either love it or hate it. You can always switch back to the classic scrolling if you want, but give the new scrolling a chance. It is one of those things that once you get used to it, it feels completely natural.


If you're on the fence about upgrading to Lion, I say go for it. It's an impressive piece of software.

73,

David, W4SMT
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Re: K3 Utility and OS X Lion

Phil Hystad-3
David,

For those slow dialup links, Apple offers a DVD version of Lion for $49 via the Apple Store.  My installation procedure on two iMacs and my Macbook Pro was about the same as your experience.  Thanks for the tip on the hidden Library.  When I read your message I jumped over to my terminal window which is almost always running somewhere on my mac to take a look.  I was surprised to find that ~/Library was quite visible.  Then, I realized that you were speaking of the hidden flag for the Finder GUI and not the File system itself.

I agree that Lion is a great system although I am still getting used to the change in gestures for scrolling.  I have the touch pad and also the magic mouse on all my systems (my wife has one of the iMacs) so I use gestures for scrolling quite a bit and the reversal is a little getting used to although I had known of this by watching the WWDC videos from earlier this year.

Unfortunately, we did find one little glitch.  My wife's Rosetta Stone application does not recognize the audio input microphones anymore although they are there and working just fine (both internal and external USB).  I need to call this into Rosetta.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:50 PM, David Fleming wrote:

> I've received several emails concerning the compatibility of the K3 Utility for Mac with OS X Lion. I installed Lion on my development iMac and initial tests show no issues with the K3 Utility, P3 Utility and W2 Utility. Everything seems to be working FB.
>
> There are already plenty of comprehensive reviews of Lion out there. I wanted to mention a couple of my observations that you might find useful. The online upgrade was an interesting experience. It was much like downloading apps on the iPhone and iPad. At 3.74 GB, the download took about 45 minutes over my fairly speedy Cox Cable connection. I don't know how dial-up folks will fare (if there are any Mac users still on dial-up). Not very well I suspect. Once the download was complete, after I kicked off the installer and clicked past the license agreement,  the installation took about 25-30 minutes.  One of the first things I noticed, other than the new "natural" scrolling, which you will either love or hate, is the fact that the User Library folder is now hidden. I suppose Apple did this to prevent new users from inadvertently deleting this important folder. The K3 Utility (and many other apps) use the ~/Library/Application Support folder to store
> application data. I find myself navigating to the Library folder very often. I was a bit panicky when I thought it was no longer there! Turns out it is still there, but it is now hidden. This is very easy to fix by opening up the Terminal and typing in this line:
>
> chflags nohidden ~/Library
>
> If you want to hide it again:
>
> chflags hidden ~/Library
>
> Scrollbars have been removed and now only subtly appear when you are actually scrolling (ala iOS). Once you get used to the natural scrolling of list views and windows there is no going back. As I mentioned above, you'll either love it or hate it. You can always switch back to the classic scrolling if you want, but give the new scrolling a chance. It is one of those things that once you get used to it, it feels completely natural.
>
>
> If you're on the fence about upgrading to Lion, I say go for it. It's an impressive piece of software.
>
> 73,
>
> David, W4SMT
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Re: K3 Utility and OS X Lion

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You can also click the 'Go' menu on the Finder and hold down the Option key (alt key) and it will so the Library as an option (doesn't matter if you hold Option before or after you display the menu).
Once open you can put it on your sidebar. Lots of other possibilities to get at Library, including typing  ~/Library in the Go to Folder dialogue.

I am not a Lion user yet (always leave a few weeks), but all this info and more available from TidBITS -
http://db.tidbits.com/article/12306
including the OS command and about putting it on you sidebar.

I would recommend TidBITS, it's available via various feeds, including an iOS App), I prefer RSS - can get a bit much sometimes, but that's what a delete key is for and for upfront info on a Mac it's just great.

TidBITS tells use you can download Lion at an AppleStore too.

73 de M0XDF
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On 23 Jul 2011, at 05:50, David Fleming wrote:

> I've received several emails concerning the compatibility of the K3 Utility for Mac with OS X Lion. I installed Lion on my development iMac and initial tests show no issues with the K3 Utility, P3 Utility and W2 Utility. Everything seems to be working FB.
>
> There are already plenty of comprehensive reviews of Lion out there. I wanted to mention a couple of my observations that you might find useful. The online upgrade was an interesting experience. It was much like downloading apps on the iPhone and iPad. At 3.74 GB, the download took about 45 minutes over my fairly speedy Cox Cable connection. I don't know how dial-up folks will fare (if there are any Mac users still on dial-up). Not very well I suspect. Once the download was complete, after I kicked off the installer and clicked past the license agreement,  the installation took about 25-30 minutes.  One of the first things I noticed, other than the new "natural" scrolling, which you will either love or hate, is the fact that the User Library folder is now hidden. I suppose Apple did this to prevent new users from inadvertently deleting this important folder. The K3 Utility (and many other apps) use the ~/Library/Application Support folder to store
> application data. I find myself navigating to the Library folder very often. I was a bit panicky when I thought it was no longer there! Turns out it is still there, but it is now hidden. This is very easy to fix by opening up the Terminal and typing in this line:
>
> chflags nohidden ~/Library
>
> If you want to hide it again:
>
> chflags hidden ~/Library
>
> Scrollbars have been removed and now only subtly appear when you are actually scrolling (ala iOS). Once you get used to the natural scrolling of list views and windows there is no going back. As I mentioned above, you'll either love it or hate it. You can always switch back to the classic scrolling if you want, but give the new scrolling a chance. It is one of those things that once you get used to it, it feels completely natural.
>
>
> If you're on the fence about upgrading to Lion, I say go for it. It's an impressive piece of software.
>

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Re: K3 Utility and OS X Lion

Moe
Here's another happy Lion user who took maybe two days to get used all the new things. Although you can set many things, such as reverse scroll and Mail.app's appearance back to the way they used to be, I left them as is and got used to them. Now I'm glad I did. I even bought a Magic Trackpad for my Mac Pro.

The purpose of this post is to let you know you can create a bootable Lion install disk after the download, but before clicking "Continue" to start the installation, which deletes the installer from the Applications folder. Before clicking "Continue," go into the Applications folder, right-click on the Installer and select Show Package Contents. In the app package, go into the SharedSupport folder, and option-drag a copy of InstallESD.dmg to the Desktop. You can then burn that to a single-layer DVD with Disk Utility. I did this at work when I upgraded my Pro. It booted fine (although took a long time) on my MacBook Pro at home, where we're limited to 768k DSL.  The Lion license permits installation on any Mac you own or control. I paid for the download. Google "InstallESD.dmg" for this tip on many websites.

The install from download on the Pro was on a blank 1 TB disk and from the DVD on the MacBook Pro was an upgrade over Snow Leopard. Both worked with no problems.

73
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On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:30 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

> TidBITS tells use you can download Lion at an AppleStore too.

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Re: K3 Utility and OS X Lion

Charles Johnson
Here's a problem I've found with Time Machine and Lion:

If you use a Time Machine server, such as Seagate's BlackArmor NAS drive, or any of a number of NAS drives that support Time Machine, Apple has changed the protocol it uses for connection to such devices in Lion. Most, if not all of these devices will require updates from the manufacturer in order to function with Lion. I have a Seagate NAS drive, and until Seagate updates the firmware, I cannot access any of my Time Machine backups created prior to Lion, nor can I back up the Lion upgrade to my NAS drive. The workaround is to use a USB connected drive on the Mac or a network drive that can be formatted as a Time Machine share, but that only allows backing up the current OS, not access to previous backups. Had I known of this issue, I would not have upgraded to Lion until the third party NAS servers were upgraded.

This is the only third party issue I have found so far.

Also, Xcode 4.0.2 under Snow Leopard will not run under Lion - but an upgrade to Xcode 4.1 is available (another 4 GB download).

73, Charlie, K4ZRJ



Sent from my MacBook Pro.

On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:15 AM, AB8XA wrote:

> Here's another happy Lion user who took maybe two days to get used all the new things. Although you can set many things, such as reverse scroll and Mail.app's appearance back to the way they used to be, I left them as is and got used to them. Now I'm glad I did. I even bought a Magic Trackpad for my Mac Pro.
>
> The purpose of this post is to let you know you can create a bootable Lion install disk after the download, but before clicking "Continue" to start the installation, which deletes the installer from the Applications folder. Before clicking "Continue," go into the Applications folder, right-click on the Installer and select Show Package Contents. In the app package, go into the SharedSupport folder, and option-drag a copy of InstallESD.dmg to the Desktop. You can then burn that to a single-layer DVD with Disk Utility. I did this at work when I upgraded my Pro. It booted fine (although took a long time) on my MacBook Pro at home, where we're limited to 768k DSL.  The Lion license permits installation on any Mac you own or control. I paid for the download. Google "InstallESD.dmg" for this tip on many websites.
>
> The install from download on the Pro was on a blank 1 TB disk and from the DVD on the MacBook Pro was an upgrade over Snow Leopard. Both worked with no problems.
>
> 73
> --
> Moe - AB8XA
> Elecraft KX1 #2484, Fists #13020, SKCC #7460,
> FPQRP #2617,  NAQCC #5352, QRP-ARCI #14326
>
>
> On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:30 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
>
>> TidBITS tells use you can download Lion at an AppleStore too.
>
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Re: K3 Utility and OS X Lion

Raymond Sills
I've made it a policy to hold off upgrading an OS unless and until a  
key software element or application will no longer function with the  
older OS.  It's the old "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" idea.

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