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Don Putnick-6

K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

Hi all,
I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
73 Don NA6Z
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Re: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

Don;

Which version of the K3 Utility are you using, and which version of Catalina?

73!
Jack, W6FB

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
> data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
> displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
> select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
> the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
> don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
> works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
> 73 Don NA6Z
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Grant Youngman-2

Re: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

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The latest versions posted on the website all work fine under Catalina 10.15.3. If you still have 32 bit apps installed, just upgrade them.

Grant NQ5T

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Walter Underwood <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Check whether it is a 32 bit app. I just checked my apps and my KXPA and PX3
> apps are 32 bit. Catalina requires 64 bit apps.
>
> This explains how to check.
>
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208436
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
>> data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
>> displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
>> select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
>> the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
>> don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
>> works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
>> 73 Don NA6Z
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Don Putnick-6

Re: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

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I'm using macOS Catalina version 10.15.4 (not .3)
I'm using the latest version of the K3 Utility downloaded yesterday. Here's
the system info:

*Elecraft K3 Utility:*

Version: 1.19.9.6

Obtained from: Identified Developer

Last Modified: 9/6/19, 2:15 PM

Signed by: Developer ID Application: David Fleming (N35N9C572M),
Developer ID Certification Authority, Apple Root CA

Location: /Applications/Elecraft K3 Utility.app

Kind: 64-bit

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 4:04 PM Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:

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Re: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

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Guys;

32 bit apps won’t even launch on Catalina. I suspect that the application’s preferences are corrupt, and have advised him how to find and delete them.

73!
Jack, W6FB

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 4:38 PM, Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> The latest versions posted on the website all work fine under Catalina 10.15.3. If you still have 32 bit apps installed, just upgrade them.
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Walter Underwood <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Check whether it is a 32 bit app. I just checked my apps and my KXPA and PX3
>> apps are 32 bit. Catalina requires 64 bit apps.
>>
>> This explains how to check.
>>
>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208436
>>
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> Walter Underwood
>> CM87wj
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>>
>>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
>>> data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
>>> displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
>>> select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
>>> the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
>>> don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
>>> works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
>>> 73 Don NA6Z
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Re: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

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Hi Don,
Are you seeing the K3 Utility menu at the top of the screen when you start the app? If so, click Window -> Set To Default Position and see if that helps. If not, we’ll have to try something else.
David, W4SMT

On Friday, March 27, 2020, 7:05 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi all,

I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?

73 Don NA6Z

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Don Putnick-6

Re: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

That didn't work. BTW when I got the KUSB yesterday I went to the FTDI
website to download the drivers. The VCP installer wasn't able to mount, so
I loaded the D2XX drivers. They do work with the KPA500 Utility.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:04 PM David Fleming <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Don,
>
> Are you seeing the K3 Utility menu at the top of the screen when you start
> the app? If so, click Window -> Set To Default Position and see if that
> helps. If not, we’ll have to try something else.
>
> David, W4SMT
>
> On Friday, March 27, 2020, 7:05 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
> data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
> displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
> select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
> the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
> don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
> works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
>
> 73 Don NA6Z
>
>

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Re: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

That shouldn’t have been needed. The drivers have been built into the macOS since 10.9.

David, suggestions?

73,
Jack, W6FB

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> That didn't work. BTW when I got the KUSB yesterday I went to the FTDI
> website to download the drivers. The VCP installer wasn't able to mount, so
> I loaded the D2XX drivers. They do work with the KPA500 Utility.
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:04 PM David Fleming <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Don,
>>
>> Are you seeing the K3 Utility menu at the top of the screen when you start
>> the app? If so, click Window -> Set To Default Position and see if that
>> helps. If not, we’ll have to try something else.
>>
>> David, W4SMT
>>
>> On Friday, March 27, 2020, 7:05 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
>> data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
>> displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
>> select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
>> the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
>> don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
>> works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
>>
>> 73 Don NA6Z
>>
>>
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Grant Youngman-2

Re: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

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AFIK 10.15.3 is the latest GA version of Catalina. Are you using a beta/developer version?

Grant NQ5T

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I'm using macOS Catalina version 10.15.4 (not .3)
> I'm using the latest version of the K3 Utility downloaded yesterday. Here's
> the system info:
>
> *Elecraft K3 Utility:*
>
>
> Version: 1.19.9.6
>
> Obtained from: Identified Developer
>
> Last Modified: 9/6/19, 2:15 PM
>
> Signed by: Developer ID Application: David Fleming (N35N9C572M),
> Developer ID Certification Authority, Apple Root CA
>
> Location: /Applications/Elecraft K3 Utility.app
>
> Kind: 64-bit
>
>
>

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Re: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

10.15.4 released on Tuesday. It should be available in your System Preferences / Software Update panel.

73!
Jack, W6FB

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> AFIK 10.15.3 is the latest GA version of Catalina. Are you using a beta/developer version?
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
>
>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm using macOS Catalina version 10.15.4 (not .3)
>> I'm using the latest version of the K3 Utility downloaded yesterday. Here's
>> the system info:
>>
>> *Elecraft K3 Utility:*
>>
>>
>> Version: 1.19.9.6
>>
>> Obtained from: Identified Developer
>>
>> Last Modified: 9/6/19, 2:15 PM
>>
>> Signed by: Developer ID Application: David Fleming (N35N9C572M),
>> Developer ID Certification Authority, Apple Root CA
>>
>> Location: /Applications/Elecraft K3 Utility.app
>>
>> Kind: 64-bit
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

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Never mind. I just got notification for 10.15.4.

I’ll put it up tonight, and see if the same thing happens.

Grant NQ5T

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> AFIK 10.15.3 is the latest GA version of Catalina. Are you using a beta/developer version?
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
>
>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm using macOS Catalina version 10.15.4 (not .3)
>> I'm using the latest version of the K3 Utility downloaded yesterday. Here's
>> the system info:
>>
>> *Elecraft K3 Utility:*
>>
>>
>> Version: 1.19.9.6
>>
>> Obtained from: Identified Developer
>>
>> Last Modified: 9/6/19, 2:15 PM
>>
>> Signed by: Developer ID Application: David Fleming (N35N9C572M),
>> Developer ID Certification Authority, Apple Root CA
>>
>> Location: /Applications/Elecraft K3 Utility.app
>>
>> Kind: 64-bit
>>
>>
>>
>

Grant Youngman-2

Re: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

I just put up Catalina 10.15.4. KX3 and PX3 Utility (latest versions) run just fine.

Grant NQ5T

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:32 PM, Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Never mind. I just got notification for 10.15.4.
>
> I’ll put it up tonight, and see if the same thing happens.
>
> Grant NQ5T
>

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Re: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

K3 Utility also ….

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 9:46 PM, Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I just put up Catalina 10.15.4. KX3 and PX3 Utility (latest versions) run just fine.
>
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>

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Re: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

I think it's unsigned and you need to right click and open it (or is it
command-click?) and then select "open" and click some dialog boxes.

At least that's how it worked for me right now.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Grant Youngman wrote:

> K3 Utility also ?.
>
>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 9:46 PM, Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I just put up Catalina 10.15.4. KX3 and PX3 Utility (latest versions) run just fine.
>>
>> Grant NQ5T
>>
>
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Don Putnick-6

SOLVED!: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

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The short version: usb-to-serial adapter driver snafu

The long version: Way back when I bought my K3, Elecraft was having
problems with the KUSB. I bought a Keyspan adapter instead and installed
the Keyspan driver. Over the years, I updated the driver when I updated the
macOS. The Keyspan stopped working with macOS Catalina, and Keyspan won't
update the driver to be compatible with Catalina. I just bought a new KUSB
and tried to install the FTDI VCP driver. For whatever reason, yesterday
the driver installer wouldn't work. So I installed the FTDI D2XX driver.
The K3 Utility still wouldn't work. Then came a chain of emails via the
reflector. I uninstalled the D2XX driver, hoping the macOS Catalina native
driver would take over. Nope. Just for chuckles, I tried again to install
the VCP driver. Today the installer worked. After a reboot, the K3 Utility
is working just fine. Whether it was the Keyspan driver or the D2XX driver
or macOS Catalina causing the problem, that's beyond my expertise and
interest. Thanks to all of you for your help. I really do appreciate it.

73 Don NA6Z

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:37 PM Jack Brindle <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Interesting. You should be seeing the KPA500 serial port in the K3 Utility
> list of serial ports. That tells me that the program is not picking them up
> from the system.
>
> David, what do you think?
>
> With Don at dinner, back to CQ WPX…
>
> 73!
> Jack, W6FB
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:35 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Nope. The K3 and KPA500 are my only serial devices. XYL priority interrupt
> - dinner. Thanks, guys. I'll delete the D2XX drivers tomorrow and report
> back in. BTW, I'm no longer freaked out. If I need to do any K3 utility
> work, I now have the Win version on the other partition, and a Sierra MPB
> with the Mac version, both operational. This is not a "this should not be
> happening" project.
> 73 Don NA6Z
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:29 PM Jack Brindle <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I believe that is probably a good idea. In Catalina, drivers (known as
>> KEXTs) now need a reboot to take effect. If you did reboot your machine,
>> then the D2XX drivers are now in place. I have never seen the D2XX drivers
>> interfere with the regular FTDI drivers, but it is possible. Note that
>> uninstalling them will require another reboot.
>>
>> Do you have anything else with an FTDI serial interface that you can plug
>> in and see what happens?
>>
>> 73!
>> Jack, W6FB
>>
>>
>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> David, yes, deleting the preferences brought back the window. I'm
>> wondering if I should uninstall the D2XX driver and just use what Catalina
>> provides.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:21 PM David Fleming <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Did deleting the preferences bring the window
>>> back? I hope installing the D2xx driver didn’t create any conflicts? It
>>> hopefully shouldn’t.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Friday, March 27, 2020, 8:11 PM, Jack Brindle <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> David;
>>>
>>> Thanks for jumping in. Don, David is the author.
>>>
>>> I had him delete the preferences, now he is not seeing the USB port. I
>>> suspect the first run, with bad prefs may have not released the serial
>>> port, so I had him either log out/in or reboot.
>>> Waiting for Don’s response now.
>>>
>>> Always great to hear from you!
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Jack, W6FB
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:03 PM, David Fleming via Elecraft <
>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Don,
>>> > Are you seeing the K3 Utility menu at the top of the screen when you
>>> start the app? If so, click Window -> Set To Default Position and see if
>>> that helps. If not, we’ll have to try something else.
>>> > David, W4SMT
>>> >
>>> > On Friday, March 27, 2020, 7:05 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
>>> > data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
>>> > displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
>>> > select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I
>>> click on
>>> > the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine,
>>> so I
>>> > don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3
>>> Utility
>>> > works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
>>> >
>>> > 73 Don NA6Z
>>>
>>>
>

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Re: SOLVED!: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

Way to go, Don! Glad you got it going.

73!
Jack, W6FB

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> The short version: usb-to-serial adapter driver snafu
>
> The long version: Way back when I bought my K3, Elecraft was having problems with the KUSB. I bought a Keyspan adapter instead and installed the Keyspan driver. Over the years, I updated the driver when I updated the macOS. The Keyspan stopped working with macOS Catalina, and Keyspan won't update the driver to be compatible with Catalina. I just bought a new KUSB and tried to install the FTDI VCP driver. For whatever reason, yesterday the driver installer wouldn't work. So I installed the FTDI D2XX driver. The K3 Utility still wouldn't work. Then came a chain of emails via the reflector. I uninstalled the D2XX driver, hoping the macOS Catalina native driver would take over. Nope. Just for chuckles, I tried again to install the VCP driver. Today the installer worked. After a reboot, the K3 Utility is working just fine. Whether it was the Keyspan driver or the D2XX driver or macOS Catalina causing the problem, that's beyond my expertise and interest. Thanks to all of you for your help. I really do appreciate it.
>
> 73 Don NA6Z
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:37 PM Jack Brindle <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> Interesting. You should be seeing the KPA500 serial port in the K3 Utility list of serial ports. That tells me that the program is not picking them up from the system.
>
> David, what do you think?
>
> With Don at dinner, back to CQ WPX…
>
> 73!
> Jack, W6FB
>
>
>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:35 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>> Nope. The K3 and KPA500 are my only serial devices. XYL priority interrupt - dinner. Thanks, guys. I'll delete the D2XX drivers tomorrow and report back in. BTW, I'm no longer freaked out. If I need to do any K3 utility work, I now have the Win version on the other partition, and a Sierra MPB with the Mac version, both operational. This is not a "this should not be happening" project.
>> 73 Don NA6Z
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:29 PM Jack Brindle <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>> I believe that is probably a good idea. In Catalina, drivers (known as KEXTs) now need a reboot to take effect. If you did reboot your machine, then the D2XX drivers are now in place. I have never seen the D2XX drivers interfere with the regular FTDI drivers, but it is possible. Note that uninstalling them will require another reboot.
>>
>> Do you have anything else with an FTDI serial interface that you can plug in and see what happens?
>>
>> 73!
>> Jack, W6FB
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> David, yes, deleting the preferences brought back the window. I'm wondering if I should uninstall the D2XX driver and just use what Catalina provides.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:21 PM David Fleming <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>> Did deleting the preferences bring the window
>>> back? I hope installing the D2xx driver didn’t create any conflicts? It hopefully shouldn’t.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
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>>> On Friday, March 27, 2020, 8:11 PM, Jack Brindle <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> David;
>>>
>>> Thanks for jumping in. Don, David is the author.
>>>
>>> I had him delete the preferences, now he is not seeing the USB port. I suspect the first run, with bad prefs may have not released the serial port, so I had him either log out/in or reboot.
>>> Waiting for Don’s response now.
>>>
>>> Always great to hear from you!
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Jack, W6FB
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:03 PM, David Fleming via Elecraft <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Don,
>>> > Are you seeing the K3 Utility menu at the top of the screen when you start the app? If so, click Window -> Set To Default Position and see if that helps. If not, we’ll have to try something else.
>>> > David, W4SMT
>>> >
>>> > On Friday, March 27, 2020, 7:05 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
>>> > data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
>>> > displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
>>> > select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
>>> > the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
>>> > don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
>>> > works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
>>> >
>>> > 73 Don NA6Z
>>>
>

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Re: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

In reply to this post by Hisashi T Fujinaka

The Mac Utilities currently on the Elecraft web site are both signed and Notarized. They are ready to go with Catalina.
No need to right-click open any longer. A Big thank-you to the program’s author, W4SMT for taking care of this.

73!
Jack, W6FB

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Hisashi T Fujinaka <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I think it's unsigned and you need to right click and open it (or is it
> command-click?) and then select "open" and click some dialog boxes.
>
> At least that's how it worked for me right now.
>
> On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Grant Youngman wrote:
>
>> K3 Utility also ?.
>>
>>> On Mar 27, 2020, at 9:46 PM, Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> I just put up Catalina 10.15.4. KX3 and PX3 Utility (latest versions) run just fine.
>>> Grant NQ5T
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Re: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

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Hi Don,
I just upgraded to 10.15.4 and launched K3 Utility. It loaded fine, but
I noticed that the options under the Configuration and Calibration tabs
were grayed out. I switched to the Port tab and selected Test
Communications. When I got the positive response back from the K3, the
options under Configuration and Calibration were no longer grayed out.
Everything seems to be working fine now.

73 de John, WK8A

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 7:05 PM Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
> data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
> displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
> select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
> the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
> don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
> works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
> 73 Don NA6Z
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Re: K3 Utility vs macOS Catalina

Sorry, if someone mentioned this, but the original KUSB uses a Prolific chipset.
That’s always been temperamental. Plugable.com have drivers for 10.15.3 but you have to buy them and I haven’t tried them.

73 de David, M0XDF
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> On 28 Mar 2020, at 16:08, John Woodard <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Don,
> I just upgraded to 10.15.4 and launched K3 Utility. It loaded fine, but
> I noticed that the options under the Configuration and Calibration tabs
> were grayed out. I switched to the Port tab and selected Test
> Communications. When I got the positive response back from the K3, the
> options under Configuration and Calibration were no longer grayed out.
> Everything seems to be working fine now.
>
> 73 de John, WK8A
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 7:05 PM Don Putnick <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I'm working with Rob at Elecraft on this, but I'm trying to gather more
>> data for us. When I open the K3 Utility under Catalina, nothing is
>> displayed. If I go down to the dock, right click on the utility, then
>> select "Show all windows", the utility main screen opens. BUT if I click on
>> the screen, it closes immediately. The KAT500 Utility works just fine, so I
>> don't think its the usb-to-serial cable or the driver. And the K3 Utility
>> works correctly under macOS Sierra. Anyone else experiencing this?
>> 73 Don NA6Z
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