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Re: K3: Yaesu copies K3's design
 
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Karl N6XVT,
Saw this old email. Also saw ad in QST, sounds more like a copey of Icom 7700. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:43 AM, "David Y." <[hidden email]> wrote: > Just curious--is it true the FT-5000 only has one receiver? In the > brochure > I see multiple AF and RF gain controls, which suggest to me there is > a 2nd > RX. They do, however, seem to infer that only the "main RX" can be > loaded > with narrow roofing filters. And where did the "$10,000" price tag > come > from? I haven't seen anything about price, but I bet it's more than a > K3--by a good bit too. > > Anyway, there's way too much speculating going on about a radio we > don't > really know much about yet. I'm a long way from being concerned > that my K3 > is about to be "trumped" by another manufacturer! And "concern" > isn't even > the right word probably. The competition would probably be a good > thing in > the long run. > > Dave W7AQK > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Squire - HB9ANM" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 10:05 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Yaesu copies K3's design > > >> >> I am amazed at the number of things that can be said on this >> reflector >> about >> another brand's radio nobody owns... >> >> The K3 is and remains my radio. And if anyone thinks the Japanese >> copied >> the >> 9 MHz IF from Elecraft, let me mention that my Ten-Tec Omni-D had >> the same >> concept some 30 years ago... Of course, no DSP. Did Yaesu copy the >> Omni-D? >> Of course not. Only, the big JA's at last realized that you cannot >> have >> narrow roofing filters with an IF around 70 MHz! >> >> And they failed to "copy" some of the K3's features: >> >> The AC supply excludes any mobile operation and restricts portable >> operation >> to places where such power is available. I like to work portable >> from my >> car >> (with a separate battery) from any convenient site. >> >> No 100 W version? That must be the reason – those MosFETs need som >> e 50 >> V... >> But with 200 W, who is going to notice the 3 dB difference (1/2 S- >> unit) on >> his S Meter? >> >> And how about a 2nd RX? Should a rig cost more than $ 10,000 to >> offer this >> feature? >> K3 owners know the answer. >> >> If some people (not) in the know think the FT5K will be priced at >> some $ >> 5,000, then you can afford a K3 and a few accessories to go with it >> (e.g. >> the W2...). >> >> The K3 is still "The Only Affordable – and Portable – Elite Class >> Transceiver"! >> >> 73 >> Richard >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Richard - HB9ANM >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Yaesu-copies-K3-s-design-tp4049475p4052441.html >> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by w7aqk
Just under 53 pounds! I have a question for Rob or anyone who might know. What is Yaesu's mu-Tuning unit? Is it just a preselector? I remember Motorola using helical resonators many years ago. I thing it is interesting that it has an inboard power supply and it will run on 110 or 240 volts. Another question, it says 170 Gate/Source Voltage +- 40 V FETs! just overhead? TX IMD supression?
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In reply to this post by juergen piezo
The price for the Yaesu FT 5000 will never be close to the K3 nor the customer service and the feel of been part of the progress of the radio. But one thing, we cannot compare companies with elecraft. Every company is unique and Elecraft is for sure. Elecraft gives you the feel of a Family. So short, buy other companies radios or elecraft if you like or feel. Miguel KC7IGT |
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I totally agree. When you have an issue or problem, no one, NO other
company comes close to Elecraft. Wayne, Eric and Co are fabulous. I hope to meet them someday. 73, Bill K9YEQ K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods ATS-3B -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Miguel Mayorga Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:59 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: Yaesu copies K3's design The price for the Yaesu FT 5000 will never be close to the K3 nor the customer service and the feel of been part of the progress of the radio. But one thing, we cannot compare companies with elecraft. Every company is unique and Elecraft is for sure. Elecraft gives you the feel of a Family. So short, buy other companies radios or elecraft if you like or feel. Miguel KC7IGT ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Miguel Mayorga
I think the mayority of us Elecrafters are loyal to the company as we are loyal to our family,I don't "picture"anyone here buying a FTDX-5000 when we all know that it won't be better than this K3 we own. AD4C "For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" --- On Wed, 12/2/09, Miguel Mayorga <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Miguel Mayorga <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: Yaesu copies K3's design To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 7:59 PM The price for the Yaesu FT 5000 will never be close to the K3 nor the customer service and the feel of been part of the progress of the radio. But one thing, we cannot compare companies with elecraft. Every company is unique and Elecraft is for sure. Elecraft gives you the feel of a Family. So short, buy other companies radios or elecraft if you like or feel. Miguel KC7IGT -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Yaesu-copies-K3-s-design-tp4049475p4101955.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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As an ex-Dealer for Yaesu...I won't be throwing my money at any radio designed by Yaesu with Motorola Fiscal Controls plus all but one seat on the Board...and dumped onto the market in a rush to woo our dollars off us so the Motorola controlled Board will keep them employed...(:-))
I still own an FT-60 HH...any offers? I'll just keep old #679 going! 73's Gary Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra -----Original Message----- From: Hector Padron <[hidden email]> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 19:43:59 To: <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: Yaesu copies K3's design I think the mayority of us Elecrafters are loyal to the company as we are loyal to our family,I don't "picture"anyone here buying a FTDX-5000 when we all know that it won't be better than this K3 we own. AD4C "For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" --- On Wed, 12/2/09, Miguel Mayorga <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Miguel Mayorga <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: Yaesu copies K3's design To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 7:59 PM The price for the Yaesu FT 5000 will never be close to the K3 nor the customer service and the feel of been part of the progress of the radio. But one thing, we cannot compare companies with elecraft. Every company is unique and Elecraft is for sure. Elecraft gives you the feel of a Family. So short, buy other companies radios or elecraft if you like or feel. Miguel KC7IGT -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Yaesu-copies-K3-s-design-tp4049475p4101955.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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When you had the great pleasure to meet them both as I have had here in Orlando,FL at the hamfest as well as at Dayton,OH for same event,you will realize that they are not only brilliant in knoledge but also wonderful persons who only show decency,honesty and loyalty to all their customers and I am very glad to be one of the thousand Elecrafters in the world.They make a hell of a couple.
AD4C "For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" --- On Wed, 12/2/09, Bill K9YEQ <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Bill K9YEQ <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: Yaesu copies K3's design To: "'Miguel Mayorga'" <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 9:53 PM I totally agree. When you have an issue or problem, no one, NO other company comes close to Elecraft. Wayne, Eric and Co are fabulous. I hope to meet them someday. 73, Bill K9YEQ K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods ATS-3B -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Miguel Mayorga Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:59 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3: Yaesu copies K3's design The price for the Yaesu FT 5000 will never be close to the K3 nor the customer service and the feel of been part of the progress of the radio. But one thing, we cannot compare companies with elecraft. Every company is unique and Elecraft is for sure. Elecraft gives you the feel of a Family. So short, buy other companies radios or elecraft if you like or feel. Miguel KC7IGT ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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And, when you have had an opportunity to work WITH Wayne and Eric (and
the rest of the Elecraft team), I believe you will have the same impression. A very nice team to deal with. Yes, they do have their business objectives, but they are human beings too, with compassion and consideration for all - employees as well as all Elecraft builders/owners. They are listening to YOU. 73, Don W3FPR Hector Padron wrote: > When you had the great pleasure to meet them both as I have had here in Orlando,FL at the hamfest as well as at Dayton,OH for same event,you will realize that they are not only brilliant in knoledge but also wonderful persons who only show decency,honesty and loyalty to all their customers and I am very glad to be one of the thousand Elecrafters in the world.They make a hell of a couple. > > AD4C > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I just completed a cw qso with another happy K3er. He recently tried to
update the firmware on his FT-2000. Something went wrong and now it's dead. He had to ship it to Yazu for service. I remember holding my breath while updating the IC-7800. You get one chance to get it right ....OR ELSE! My point is. Elecraft did good on FW update methodology and continues to make customers happy. Steve N4LQ [hidden email] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft team > And, when you have had an opportunity to work WITH Wayne and Eric (and > the rest of the Elecraft team), I believe you will have the same > impression. A very nice team to deal with. Yes, they do have their > business objectives, but they are human beings too, with compassion and > consideration for all - employees as well as all Elecraft > builders/owners. They are listening to YOU. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > Hector Padron wrote: >> When you had the great pleasure to meet them both as I have had here in >> Orlando,FL at the hamfest as well as at Dayton,OH for same event,you will >> realize that they are not only brilliant in knoledge but also wonderful >> persons who only show decency,honesty and loyalty to all their customers >> and I am very glad to be one of the thousand Elecrafters in the >> world.They make a hell of a couple. >> >> AD4C >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2541 - Release Date: 12/02/09 14:43:00 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Well,I have updated my K3 FW dozen times already,sometimes I go back and forward among different versions to compare which is better and I have never had any dead radio,it always worked ok after the procedure is done.Another happy Elecrafter.
AD4C "For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3" --- On Thu, 12/3/09, Steve Ellington <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Steve Ellington <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft team To: [hidden email], [hidden email] Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 4:38 AM I just completed a cw qso with another happy K3er. He recently tried to update the firmware on his FT-2000. Something went wrong and now it's dead. He had to ship it to Yazu for service. I remember holding my breath while updating the IC-7800. You get one chance to get it right ....OR ELSE! My point is. Elecraft did good on FW update methodology and continues to make customers happy. Steve N4LQ [hidden email] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft team > And, when you have had an opportunity to work WITH Wayne and Eric (and > the rest of the Elecraft team), I believe you will have the same > impression. A very nice team to deal with. Yes, they do have their > business objectives, but they are human beings too, with compassion and > consideration for all - employees as well as all Elecraft > builders/owners. They are listening to YOU. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > Hector Padron wrote: >> When you had the great pleasure to meet them both as I have had here in >> Orlando,FL at the hamfest as well as at Dayton,OH for same event,you will >> realize that they are not only brilliant in knoledge but also wonderful >> persons who only show decency,honesty and loyalty to all their customers >> and I am very glad to be one of the thousand Elecrafters in the >> world.They make a hell of a couple. >> >> AD4C >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2541 - Release Date: 12/02/09 14:43:00 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm-4
In my haste, I forgot to mention that Lisa, Madelyn and Olivia at
[hidden email] or the Elecraft phone number (now 831-763-4211) are my initial and primary contacts. In all cases, I am greeted with a pleasant voice and a helpful response. These "front end" people do a wonderful job. Thank you for your responsiveness (even when I know you are having a 'bad day'). 73, Don W3FPR Don Wilhelm wrote: > And, when you have had an opportunity to work WITH Wayne and Eric (and > the rest of the Elecraft team), I believe you will have the same > impression. A very nice team to deal with. Yes, they do have their > business objectives, but they are human beings too, with compassion > and consideration for all - employees as well as all Elecraft > builders/owners. They are listening to YOU. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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