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Ray,
ERR PTT or ERR KEY iws just what it says, somehow the Key and/or the PTT has been closed when the K3 is powered on. Check all your connections. If you can't find the key or footswitch, etc that is closed, then disconnect everything except the power cable from the K3 - in that minimal configuration, if you still have the problem, you have a K3 internal problem, contact [hidden email] for further assistance. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/7/2012 9:32 AM, Ray Spreadbury wrote: > Don > They were already set to OFF OFF in CONFIG: PTT--KEY, enabled VOX but still > same result - no power output! > Ray > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: 07 March 2012 13:39 > To: Ray G3XLG > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 a few new user questions > > Ray, > > Check your CONFIG: PTT -- KEY menu entry and set it to OFF -- OFF then use > VOX when using Data modes. > Yes it is likely that the computer and/or MicroHam is setting either DRT or > RTS (or both) on. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 3/7/2012 8:23 AM, Ray G3XLG wrote: >> However whilst MVARI in N1MM decodes PSK31 signals fine, when i try to >> transmit I get no power output& instead I get a couple of error >> messages on the K3 - Error PTT , Error KEY which in the K3 manual >> saysits usually caused by an external device (the MicroHAM MKII?) shorting > KEY or PTT to ground. >> I've obviously got something setup wrong in either N1MM config or in >> the MKII router. Any ideas please? >> Ray, G3XLG >> >> >> ----- >> Ray G3XLG >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Phil,
This is not a problem at all, but it is a matter of audio levels as well as knowing your equipment. The SignaLink is capable of providing either Line level audio or Microphone level audio. The SignaLink off-the-shelf is plugged for microphone level audio. If you choose to use a Line level input to the transceiver, you must change the jumper - not a problem, it is just one of those "facts of life". 73, Don W3FPR On 3/7/2012 9:44 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: > I use the Signalink with the K3 and I found that I had to have a larger line level output from the Signalink. Inside the Signalink is a jumper that allows you to switch to a higher voltage. Before I did this, the level was not high enough to drive the K3. I don't know if this is a universal problem or something that merely worked for me in my configuration. > > 73, phil, K7PEH > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Something is clearly amiss with your PTT and CW configuration. It sounds
as if you have CONFIG:PTT-KEY set to ON-ON. Set CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF to clear the error messages; having done that, you need to decide how you will be controlling PTT and configure accordingly. If you weren't using the microKeyer, the simplest way to control PTT would be to use VOX, as Don suggests, and do not configure any PTT in N1MM Logger. The second simplest would be to use RTS on the radio control port with CONFIG:PTT-KEY set to RTS-OFF, but I don't think this works with the microKeyer. The microHam setup instructions show how to configure both MMTTY and MMVARI for FSK and AFSK. Note that even if you configure N1MM to use RTS on the radio control port for PTT, that is intercepted by the MKII and not passed through to the radio. You need to leave the K3's CONFIG:PTT-KEY = OFF-OFF and let the MKII do PTT control through the ACC connector or the PTT IN jack on the K3 (depending on which cable set you have). Do not configure N1MM to use software PTT commands with the K3; regardless of whether you are using a microKeyer or not, there are better more reliable alternatives available. 73, Rich VE3KI Ray G3XLG wrote: > However whilst MVARI in N1MM decodes PSK31 signals fine, when i try to > transmit I get no power output & instead I get a couple of error messages on > the K3 - Error PTT , Error KEY which in the K3 manual saysits usually caused > by an external device (the MicroHAM MKII?) shorting KEY or PTT to ground. > I've obviously got something setup wrong in either N1MM config or in the > MKII router. Any ideas please? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Phil Hystad-3
Phil,
Setting the SignaLink jumper to increase the gain of the TX signal is necessary (as explained by Don). My settings: SignaLink USB TX knob set to 13 o'clock and K3 Mic Line level set to 30. 73, Heinz HB9BCB
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Ray,
Are you still getting ERR PTT messages? If you are, then it is likely that in your N1MM or DXLabs configuration you have something set that is telling the MKII to assert its hardware PTT output. For example, if the Router were configured to use COM6 for FSK, with the PTT box checked beside it, and you had RTS on COM6 set to Always On in the N1MM Configurer, or if the Router were configured to use RTS on COM4 for PTT and you had RTS on COM4 set to Always On in the N1MM Configurer and/or in the DXLab Commander configuration, that could be a cause. Once this is resolved, when you say no power output, are you at least getting PTT, i.e. the K3's red TX LED coming on? If not, your PTT configuration needs more work. I believe that microHam suggests using RTS on the radio control port in N1MM Logger for PTT (set DTR to Always Off), and if you are using the K3's ACC port for PTT, setting the Router to use PTT2 for PTT in digital modes, but I may be misremembering this - consult the sample settings documents under Support at the microHam-USA web site, and the MKII user manual for the Router's PTT settings. In DXLab Commander, you would set RTS on the primary CAT port to PTT and DTR to Off, and in Commander's General configuration window you would check the "suppress CAT" check box in the PTT pane. If you are getting the K3 into transmit mode, but no power output, check the following: In DATA A mode, look at MAIN:MIC SEL and make sure it is set to Line In. Now adjust the K3's Mic gain control to set the Line In level - I believe the default level is zero, which will result in zero output. You need to adjust the MKII's TX level control and the K3's Line In level control so that you can see 4-5 bars on the K3's ALC meter (with the meter in ALC mode). Once you have done this, if you set the K3's Pwr control to 40W you should see 40 watts (4 bars) on the K3's RF output meter. 73, Rich VE3KI Ray G3XLF wrote: > They were already set to OFF OFF in CONFIG: PTT--KEY, enabled VOX but still > same result - no power output! ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I just remembered one other potential cause of zero output from MMVARI
despite having PTT working correctly, and that would be having the wrong output soundcard selected in the MMVARI setup in N1MM Logger (DI Setup window under the MMVARI Setup tab). 73, Rich VE3KI ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Thanks for your help Richard. Answers below Ray From: Richard Ferch [via Elecraft] [mailto:[hidden email]] Something is clearly amiss with your PTT and CW configuration. It sounds If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-a-few-new-user-questions-tp7348177p7352062.html To unsubscribe from K3 a few new user questions, click here.
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Hi Richard More replies, I’m afraid! However, changing from DATA-A to PSK-D on the K3 does appear to give full output with no trouble! I’ll check it in the morning with a local HAM to see if in fact it was giving out a true PSK31 signal!!! Ray From: Richard Ferch [via Elecraft] [mailto:[hidden email]] Ray, If not, your PTT If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-a-few-new-user-questions-tp7348177p7352193.html To unsubscribe from K3 a few new user questions, click here.
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Richard, from Ray From: Richard Ferch [via Elecraft] [mailto:[hidden email]] I just remembered one other potential cause of zero output from MMVARI If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-a-few-new-user-questions-tp7348177p7352236.html To unsubscribe from K3 a few new user questions, click here.
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Ray,
I believe all you will see in PSK-D is the idle tone. That is only for use with the paddles for input or the K3 Utility, or there is one other program that sends ASCII text to the K3 in that data submode. Go back to DATA A. If you need to determine whether the soundcard is sending data out, find one of those small iPod amplifiers having a 3.5mm stereo jack on it and plug the audio cable into that instead of the K3. If you hear sound, plug it back into the K3, but if it is silent, then go back to your software application and fix it so your can get sound out. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/7/2012 1:25 PM, Ray G3XLG wrote: > Hi Richard > > More replies, I'm afraid! > > However, changing from DATA-A to PSK-D on the K3 does appear to give full > output with no trouble! > > I'll check it in the morning with a local HAM to see if in fact it was > giving out a true PSK31 signal!!! > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Well, I am pleased to report that this thread has ahappy ending as I finally succeeded in getting the K3 to send PSK31 with my MicroHAM MKII & N1MM!
I received a lot of help & advice from this reflector and I'm sure I would not have succeeded without that help! Finally, I unplugged, checked and re-fitted all the cables, re-configured the software router in the Microham, reconfigured N1MM and reset a number of the menu/configure settings in the K3. Lo & behold it worked ..... I must have had something wrong somewhere but I dont know what! Anyway I have now saved all the settings on the K3, router etc. At least I now know a lot more about my K3 and the software Thanks guys
Ray G3XLG
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