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Trevor Dunne

K3 and whats next from Elecraft

Hi All

I have been reading the mail here for some time while I debate the purchase of a K3 in my head. I can't help to notice the lack of subjects covering the K3 and the lack of new firmware in over 4 months.

Would if be fair to think that development has finished on the K3 and that now all the accessories(amp,P3,ATU,ect) are in place, also the KX3 and matching amp are out there, Have the good people in Elecraft moved on to develop a new radio a K4 maybe ????

Nothing worse than getting something new only for it to be replaced by a newer model a few weeks after getting it.

Thanks
Trevor
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Nicklas Johnson

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

The thought crossed my mind when I was looking at getting either a K3 or a
KX3 too (and ultimately I decided on the KX3, which is still really new).

I'll probably be in the market for something like the K3 in another year or
two, and like you, if I knew the next model were coming along shortly, I'd
prefer to wait and get the new thing rather than go for the old thing.

I ran my question by customer service at the time, and the response I got
was that they are *always* working on the next new thing, but no idea what
it would be called or what the timeline might be like, and they also
pointed out that people are still buying and building K2's after all these
years.

Nick

On 18 August 2013 12:39, Trevor Dunne <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I have been reading the mail here for some time while I debate the
> purchase of a K3 in my head. I can't help to notice the lack of subjects
> covering the K3 and the lack of new firmware in over 4 months.
>
>
> Would if be fair to think that development has finished on the K3 and that
> now all the accessories(amp,P3,ATU,ect) are in place, also the KX3 and
> matching amp are out there, Have the good people in Elecraft moved on to
> develop a new radio a K4 maybe ????
>
> Nothing worse than getting something new only for it to be replaced by a
> newer model a few weeks after getting it.
>
>
> Thanks
> Trevor
> EI2GLB
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Scott Manthe-2

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

In reply to this post by Trevor Dunne

Wayne and Eric have repeatedly said than any "K4-style" improvements
will be retrofittable to the K3. Here is Wayne's response to a recent
thread on the subject:
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Wait-For-The-K4-Direct-RF-Sampled-SDR-tp7571211p7571223.html

Given the fact that the "big three" bring out new radios every couple of
years, it's understandable to wonder why there is no K4. It seems that
Wayne and Eric's business model doesn't include soaking people for the
price of a new model when suitable improvements can be made to an
existing platform. To me, this is a good thing. The fact that there
haven't been any firmware updates recently is also good thing- it means
that the K3 is inching ever closer to being a mature product.

I don't think you'll have to worry about seeing your new K3 replaced by
a K4 in a couple of weeks.

73,
Scott, N9AA

On 8/18/13 3:39 PM, Trevor Dunne wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I have been reading the mail here for some time while I debate the purchase of a K3 in my head. I can't help to notice the lack of subjects covering the K3 and the lack of new firmware in over 4 months.
>
>
> Would if be fair to think that development has finished on the K3 and that now all the accessories(amp,P3,ATU,ect) are in place, also the KX3 and matching amp are out there, Have the good people in Elecraft moved on to develop a new radio a K4 maybe ????
>
> Nothing worse than getting something new only for it to be replaced by a newer model a few weeks after getting it.
>
>
> Thanks
> Trevor
> EI2GLB

Don Wilhelm-4

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

In reply to this post by Trevor Dunne

Trevor,

The K3 is not going to be replaced anytime soon IMHO. In fact, the K3
did not 'replace' the K2 which is still going strong after almost 14
years. Yes, the K2 is a mature product, but Elecraft fully supports it
(and can be expected to continue for some long time to come).

As an example of the Elecraft dedication to its full product line and
continued support, the speech compressor used on the KSB2 board was no
longer available about a year ago. Rather than abandoning that 12 year
old product, Elecraft re-designed the KSB2 board to use an alternative
IC. That is the kind of ongoing product line support you can expect
from Elecraft.

There will still be occasional firmware updates to the K3, but the fact
that the rate has slowed drastically is an indication that the bugs have
been worked out and all the specified functions are working well.

What I am suggesting is that if you purchase a K3, you can expect it to
be supported long into the future.

I do not have the 'inside track' information about what Elecraft is now
working on, nor can I say when it may be revealed, but you can buy a K3
or KX3 and you will find that not only is it a top performer, but will
remain so for some time, and you can rely on Elecraft support long into
the future. A new product will not diminish support of the present
products.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/18/2013 3:39 PM, Trevor Dunne wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I have been reading the mail here for some time while I debate the purchase of a K3 in my head. I can't help to notice the lack of subjects covering the K3 and the lack of new firmware in over 4 months.
>
>
> Would if be fair to think that development has finished on the K3 and that now all the accessories(amp,P3,ATU,ect) are in place, also the KX3 and matching amp are out there, Have the good people in Elecraft moved on to develop a new radio a K4 maybe ????
>
> Nothing worse than getting something new only for it to be replaced by a newer model a few weeks after getting it.
>

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Rick Dettinger-3

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

In reply to this post by Scott Manthe-2

It took about 8 years for the K3 to "replace" the K2. Of course, you can still get a new K2, and some due.
It took about 11 years for the KX3 to "replace" the K1. And, K1's are still available. And still great rigs.
I didn't include the KX1, as I think of it as a niche rig, for those who want the lightest transceiver over other considerations, for back packing, etc.
Even if the K3 is "mature", it is definitely not obsolete!
I have owned all of the kits, and have settled on the KX3, as it meets all of my needs. Which are fairly limited. Fixed and portable HF CW! But, I appreciate good quality.

73,
Rick Dettinger K7MW

On Aug 18, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Scott Manthe wrote:

> Wayne and Eric have repeatedly said than any "K4-style" improvements will be retrofittable to the K3. Here is Wayne's response to a recent thread on the subject: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Wait-For-The-K4-Direct-RF-Sampled-SDR-tp7571211p7571223.html
>
> Given the fact that the "big three" bring out new radios every couple of years, it's understandable to wonder why there is no K4. It seems that Wayne and Eric's business model doesn't include soaking people for the price of a new model when suitable improvements can be made to an existing platform. To me, this is a good thing. The fact that there haven't been any firmware updates recently is also good thing- it means that the K3 is inching ever closer to being a mature product.
>
> I don't think you'll have to worry about seeing your new K3 replaced by a K4 in a couple of weeks.
>
> 73,
> Scott, N9AA
>
>
> On 8/18/13 3:39 PM, Trevor Dunne wrote:
>> Hi All
>>
>> I have been reading the mail here for some time while I debate the purchase of a K3 in my head. I can't help to notice the lack of subjects covering the K3 and the lack of new firmware in over 4 months.
>>
>>
>> Would if be fair to think that development has finished on the K3 and that now all the accessories(amp,P3,ATU,ect) are in place, also the KX3 and matching amp are out there, Have the good people in Elecraft moved on to develop a new radio a K4 maybe ????
>>
>> Nothing worse than getting something new only for it to be replaced by a newer model a few weeks after getting it.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Trevor
>> EI2GLB
>
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Mike Furrey

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

In reply to this post by Scott Manthe-2

A new product I would love to see would be a 500 watt mobile/12 VDC amp ...
although that would be a very small niche
in ham radio and probably low sales. Just thinking out loud here.

73, Mike WA5POK

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Scott Manthe" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 3:57 PM
To: <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and whats next from Elecraft

> Wayne and Eric have repeatedly said than any "K4-style" improvements will
> be retrofittable to the K3. Here is Wayne's response to a recent thread on
> the subject:
> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Wait-For-The-K4-Direct-RF-Sampled-SDR-tp7571211p7571223.html
>
> Given the fact that the "big three" bring out new radios every couple of
> years, it's understandable to wonder why there is no K4. It seems that
> Wayne and Eric's business model doesn't include soaking people for the
> price of a new model when suitable improvements can be made to an existing
> platform. To me, this is a good thing. The fact that there haven't been
> any firmware updates recently is also good thing- it means that the K3 is
> inching ever closer to being a mature product.
>
> I don't think you'll have to worry about seeing your new K3 replaced by a
> K4 in a couple of weeks.
>
> 73,
> Scott, N9AA
>
>
> On 8/18/13 3:39 PM, Trevor Dunne wrote:
>> Hi All
>>
>> I have been reading the mail here for some time while I debate the
>> purchase of a K3 in my head. I can't help to notice the lack of subjects
>> covering the K3 and the lack of new firmware in over 4 months.
>>
>>
>> Would if be fair to think that development has finished on the K3 and
>> that now all the accessories(amp,P3,ATU,ect) are in place, also the KX3
>> and matching amp are out there, Have the good people in Elecraft moved on
>> to develop a new radio a K4 maybe ????
>>
>> Nothing worse than getting something new only for it to be replaced by a
>> newer model a few weeks after getting it.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Trevor
>> EI2GLB
>
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KD8NNU

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

Look for an SGC powercube. I have one and it works well, you need to find
a used one. They may be starting to make them again shortly.

~73
Don
KD8NNU
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A new product I would love to see would be a 500 watt mobile/12 VDC amp ...
although that would be a very small niche
in ham radio and probably low sales. Just thinking out loud here.

73, Mike WA5POK

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From: "Scott Manthe" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 3:57 PM
To: <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and whats next from Elecraft

k6dgw

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

In reply to this post by Trevor Dunne

On 8/18/2013 12:39 PM, Trevor Dunne wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I have been reading the mail here for some time while I debate the
> purchase of a K3 in my head. I can't help to notice the lack of
> subjects covering the K3 and the lack of new firmware in over 4
> months.

Perfectly normal. You don't see a lot of K2, K1, and KX1 posts either,
or posts for the mini-kit accessories. They're mature products,
additions and changes naturally tend to decrease as time goes by. I'm
not an "insider" but I seem to remember Elecraft recently re-designed
the K2DSP board for a new part when a component became unavailable.

The K3 has been around for 10(?) years or so, early on there were many
K3 ideas and suggestions on this list, a number of which were
incorporated into the evolving firmware. As time went on, the number of
"features" on the list declined, which is natural. The K3 firmware is
very stable and well tested and while people still occasionally come up
with a new "wrinkle" they want included, I for one am more than happy
that there isn't a new firmware version every week or so. :-)
>
> Would if be fair to think that development has finished on the K3 and
> that now all the accessories(amp,P3,ATU,ect) are in place, also the
> KX3 and matching amp are out there, Have the good people in Elecraft
> moved on to develop a new radio a K4 maybe ????

I retired from engineering as a Division Chief Engineer. I had a sign
framed over my desk that read, "In the life of every project, there
comes a time when you must shoot all the engineers and begin
production." The young folks would tinker with the software and
hardware until the sun went supernova if not restrained. :-)

If by "finished," you mean "becoming mature," then yes, it's fair to
think that. However, be aware that the K2 did not *replace* the K1 any
more than the K3 *replaced* the K2 or the KX3 *replaced* the K3. That's
not how Elecraft seems to do things. Each of them have unique features
and capabilities for differing environments and uses. It's a somewhat
unique business model unlike the behavior of several other ham radio
manufacturers who shall remain unnamed. That goes for a Seattle-based
software company as well.
>
> Nothing worse than getting something new only for it to be replaced
> by a newer model a few weeks after getting it.

Hmmm ... I can think of a lot more worse things than that, but
regardless, I'd bet my paycheck, if I still got one, that whatever
Elecraft is working on for the future will fill a need in the market
place and won't replace any of the existing Elecraft products. I have a
KX1 [#697] that I occasionally use in the field and for tracking down
weeds that have grown up under the many electric fences around here. My
K2 [#4398] is my real field radio. The K3-line [#642] is my station
rig. I've played a bit with the KX3, I doubt I'll get one, it's a cool
radio, just no real need in my life.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
- www.cqp.org

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george fritkin

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

In reply to this post by KD8NNU

Here is something new.....meeting delivery date comments.

George, W6GF

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From: Goldtr8 (KD8NNU) <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and whats next from Elecraft

Look for an SGC powercube. I have one and it works well, you need to find
a used one. They may be starting to make them again shortly.

~73
Don
KD8NNU
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-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 4:14 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and whats next from Elecraft

A new product I would love to see would be a 500 watt mobile/12 VDC amp ...
although that would be a very small niche
in ham radio and probably low sales. Just thinking out loud here.

73, Mike WA5POK

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Scott Manthe" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 3:57 PM
To: <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and whats next from Elecraft

> Wayne and Eric have repeatedly said than any "K4-style" improvements will
> be retrofittable to the K3. Here is Wayne's response to a recent thread on
> the subject:
> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Wait-For-The-K4-Direct-RF-Sampled-SDR-tp7571211p7571223.html
>
> Given the fact that the "big three" bring out new radios every couple of
> years, it's understandable to wonder why there is no K4. It seems that
> Wayne and Eric's business model doesn't include soaking people for the
> price of a new model when suitable improvements can be made to an existing
> platform. To me, this is a good thing. The fact that there haven't been
> any firmware updates recently is also good thing- it means that the K3 is
> inching ever closer to being a mature product.
>
> I don't think you'll have to worry about seeing your new K3 replaced by a
> K4 in a couple of weeks.
>
> 73,
> Scott, N9AA
>
>
> On 8/18/13 3:39 PM, Trevor Dunne wrote:
>> Hi All
>>
>> I have been reading the mail here for some time while I debate the
>> purchase of a K3 in my head. I can't help to notice the lack of subjects
>> covering the K3 and the lack of new firmware in over 4 months.
>>
>>
>> Would if be fair to think that development has finished on the K3 and
>> that now all the accessories(amp,P3,ATU,ect) are in place, also the KX3
>> and matching amp are out there, Have the good people in Elecraft moved on
>> to develop a new radio a K4 maybe ????
>>
>> Nothing worse than getting something new only for it to be replaced by a
>> newer model a few weeks after getting it.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Trevor
>> EI2GLB
>
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hf4me

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

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Has there been any talk about a KX3 size version of the K3/0 unit?
73, de Jim KG0KP

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and whats next from Elecraft

Hi All

I have been reading the mail here for some time while I debate the purchase
of a K3 in my head. I can't help to notice the lack of subjects covering the
K3 and the lack of new firmware in over 4 months.

Would if be fair to think that development has finished on the K3 and that
now all the accessories(amp,P3,ATU,ect) are in place, also the KX3 and
matching amp are out there, Have the good people in Elecraft moved on to
develop a new radio a K4 maybe ????

Nothing worse than getting something new only for it to be replaced by a
newer model a few weeks after getting it.

Thanks
Trevor
EI2GLB
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Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

It's a bit bigger than the KX3 - the same front-panel as the K3, but
closer to the depth of the KX3 ... Google "k3/0 mini".

73,

~iain / N6ML

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Jim Miller <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Has there been any talk about a KX3 size version of the K3/0 unit?
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Robert Vargas (KP4Y)

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

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Talking about new elecraft product? What's the status on the KX3 2M module. Been waiting more than a year for that option. Hopefully it's on top of Elecraft's priorities right now.

73,
Robert-KP4Y
Sent from mobile device. I apologize for the brevity and any grammatical errors.

iain macdonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]> wrote:

>It's a bit bigger than the KX3 - the same front-panel as the K3, but
>closer to the depth of the KX3 ... Google "k3/0 mini".
>
>73,
>
> ~iain / N6ML
>
>
>On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Jim Miller <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Has there been any talk about a KX3 size version of the K3/0 unit?
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Edward R Cole

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

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Pretty well covered by others.

One more fact to consider is the K3 is a SDR which means the firmware
can continually be improved or embellished, thus keeping the radio
from obsolescence. The promise of SDR is that it can continually
re-invent itself with new sw (firmware). With ten years under its
belt a lot of ideas have already been incorporated. Recent
improvement in AGC is an example of continual product
improvement. Elecraft is the only organization I see this coming
with any regularity. The typical mfr rolls out a whole new piece of
hardware requiring you to dispose of the old radio and spending a lot
of money on the "new stuff". Have you noticed that Elecraft new
firmware is free!

In time the hardware is replaceable with new technology, so
eventually there will be better components for building SDR's and
that might lead to a successor to the K3. In a manner of speaking
the KX3 is that.

I hope the idea of replacement through new modules is followed. That
is where a radio built with daughter boards on a master mother board
is more amenable to hardware upgrades. The tradeoff is reliability
issues with daughter board connectors (over time).

Those of us that like to experiment with new stuff like the modular
approach. Think of new firmware as new modules!

73, Ed - KL7UW
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Arie Kleingeld PA3A-2

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

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The next Elecraft rig will be a real SDR radio (not a hybrid like the K3).
With all the convenience and flexibility of the K3, maybe even better.

Crucial will be the design specs.
I hope that the designspecs will be OK and that the engineers will
listen not only to the hard core contesters, but also to others.
It will certainly have to be a step up from the K3. Yes, even the K3 has
still a few vital things that have to to be improved.

73
Arie PA3A
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tnnyswy

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

>>> The next Elecraft rig will be a real SDR radio (not a hybrid like the K3). <<<

The K3 is a SDR Radio!

((((73)))) Milverton.

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>The next Elecraft rig will be a real SDR radio (not a hybrid like the K3).
>With all the convenience and flexibility of the K3, maybe even better.
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>Crucial will be the design specs.
>I hope that the designspecs will be OK and that the engineers will
>listen not only to the hard core contesters, but also to others.
>It will certainly have to be a step up from the K3. Yes, even the K3 has
>still a few vital things that have to to be improved.
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>73
>Arie PA3A
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Richard E Neese

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

The KX3 is a sdr also. but made into a field useable SDR.

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Bill Frantz

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

Just thinking about outside the HF spectrum...

* A transverter for the possible new MF allocation, should the
FCC finally move

* A HT that can be used by the emergency services people who are
new hams (Elecraft UIs are easier to use than most other makers
UIs.)

* Elegant radios for the microwave bands

Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

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Bill W4ZV

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

In reply to this post by Arie Kleingeld PA3A-2

Arie Kleingeld PA3A-2 wrote

The next Elecraft rig will be a real SDR radio (not a hybrid like the K3).
With all the convenience and flexibility of the K3, maybe even better.

...but Wayne said:

"Direct RF-sampling receivers, for all their technology, still lag well
behind the K3 in blocking dynamic range, and probably will continue to
for years to come. We're quite happy with our superhet architecture."

How refreshing that Elecraft has not been caught up in the direct sampling SDR "technology for technology's sake" hype.

73, Bill W4ZV

Mike K2MK

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

In reply to this post by Trevor Dunne

Hi Trevor,

I'm waiting for a KPA1000. But I'd also take a KPA1200 or KPA1500.

73,
Mike K2MK

Trevor Dunne wrote

Hi All

I have been reading the mail here for some time while I debate the purchase of a K3 in my head. I can't help to notice the lack of subjects covering the K3 and the lack of new firmware in over 4 months.

Would if be fair to think that development has finished on the K3 and that now all the accessories(amp,P3,ATU,ect) are in place, also the KX3 and matching amp are out there, Have the good people in Elecraft moved on to develop a new radio a K4 maybe ????

Nothing worse than getting something new only for it to be replaced by a newer model a few weeks after getting it.

Thanks
Trevor
EI2GLB

Arie Kleingeld PA3A-2

Re: K3 and whats next from Elecraft

In reply to this post by tnnyswy

Hi Milverton,

The K3 has enough software and also in the filtering, but it depends
HEAVILY on the analog IF filtering.
It is a combination, that's why I call it a hybrid.

And for the rest: The next generation radio's will be full DSP, this
technology will come fast. We have already seen several rigs (receivers
and transceivers, also some websdr's on the net) with this technology.

73,
Arie PA3A

Op 19-8-2013 14:03, [hidden email] schreef:
> >>> The next Elecraft rig will be a real SDR radio (not a hybrid like
> the K3). <<<
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> The K3 is a SDR Radio!
>
> ((((73)))) Milverton.
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