I see the lore is that the LPA does not care for long key down periods -
I was toying with using my K3 as WSPR tx on 160 and 80 fpor some antenna evaluations. . The lore would say its not a good idea ? The manual is not clear to me of whether in fact there is a 160 low level out I could use for a home brew external amp -The KIO3 transverter bands show 160 coded -but other tables talk about just IF of 7 mhz and above. BUT its all moot of the LPA is still biased on and limited in key down time ????? Hank K7HP ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Hi Hank,
While intuitively it would seem that WSPR is a viable method for performing antenna evaluations, extreme short term variability of the ionosphere makes it into a heroic task... The only viable method I've found -- and it works very well -- is to install a reference antenna within about 1/2 wavelength of the antenna under test, it MUST have the same polarization as the antenna under test and ideally -- to avoid interactions -- neither antenna should "look through" the other. In almost every case -- unless you have local RFI issues -- evaluations performed using your receiver produce nearly identical results as using your transmitter. 73 Frank W3LPL ----- Original Message ----- From: "HP" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 9:54:28 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 as WSPR transmitter I see the lore is that the LPA does not care for long key down periods - I was toying with using my K3 as WSPR tx on 160 and 80 fpor some antenna evaluations. . The lore would say its not a good idea ? The manual is not clear to me of whether in fact there is a 160 low level out I could use for a home brew external amp -The KIO3 transverter bands show 160 coded -but other tables talk about just IF of 7 mhz and above. BUT its all moot of the LPA is still biased on and limited in key down time ????? Hank K7HP ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 3:55 PM HP <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I see the lore is that the LPA does not care for long key down periods... > =========== I often transmitted on WSPR with my K3. A long keydown can't hurt anything when you're only running 2 watts. Tony KT0NY ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Same here, I have run 2 and 5 watts using WSPR, works great with my K3.
73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 1/5/20 2:05 PM, Tony Estep wrote: > On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 3:55 PM HP <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> I see the lore is that the LPA does not care for long key down periods... >> > =========== > I often transmitted on WSPR with my K3. A long keydown can't hurt anything > when you're only running 2 watts. > > Tony KT0NY > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I have run FT8, PSK31, and RTTY a lot on my K3. Even before I
installed the 100W amp card. I have never had any problem with the low power amplifier (LPA) with those modes. I have also run those modes at 100W with the KPA3 with no problems. I don't think you'll have any problems with the 110.6 second WSPR transmit sequence. 73 Bill AE6JV On 1/5/20 at 4:54 PM, [hidden email] (HP) wrote: >I see the lore is that the LPA does not care for long key down >periods - I was toying with using my K3 as WSPR tx on 160 and >80 fpor some antenna evaluations. . >The lore would say its not a good idea ? >The manual is not clear to me of whether in fact there is a 160 >low level out I could use for a home brew external amp -The >KIO3 transverter bands show 160 coded -but other tables talk >about just IF of 7 mhz and above. >BUT its all moot of the LPA is still biased on and limited in key down time ????? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Re IOT: "How many access control systems does it take www.pwpconsult.com | to change a light bulb?" - Dean Tribble ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I've run my K3 at 5 watts on WSPR, at up to 20% tx percentage, for a week
at a time. However, the case will get quite warm unless I run a 12v low-speed fan pointed at the right side of the case. I'll leave it to the engineers as to whether this is necessary, but having the case stay stone-cold makes me feel better. Fans are available from Amazon and everywhere else. 73 Eric WD6DBM On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, 1:54 PM HP <[hidden email]> wrote: > I see the lore is that the LPA does not care for long key down periods - > I was toying with using my K3 as WSPR tx on 160 and 80 fpor some antenna > evaluations. . > > The lore would say its not a good idea > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Dear OMs and YLS, Wht not just run 100mW to a Watt? Surely then there is no heating problem. I ask because I am starting the process of using WSPR on my K3. 73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> Date: 05/01/2020 22:12 (GMT+00:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 as WSPR transmitter I have run FT8, PSK31, and RTTY a lot on my K3. Even before I installed the 100W amp card. I have never had any problem with the low power amplifier (LPA) with those modes. I have also run those modes at 100W with the KPA3 with no problems. I don't think you'll have any problems with the 110.6 second WSPR transmit sequence.73 Bill AE6JVOn 1/5/20 at 4:54 PM, [hidden email] (HP) wrote:>I see the lore is that the LPA does not care for long key down >periods - I was toying with using my K3 as WSPR tx on 160 and >80 fpor some antenna evaluations. .>The lore would say its not a good idea ?>The manual is not clear to me of whether in fact there is a 160 >low level out I could use for a home brew external amp -The >KIO3 transverter bands show 160 coded -but other tables talk >about just IF of 7 mhz and above.>BUT its all moot of the LPA is still biased on and limited in key down time ?????---------------------------------------------------------------------------Bill Frantz | Re IOT: "How many access control systems does it takewww.pwpconsult.com | to change a light bulb?" - Dean Tribble______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:[hidden email] list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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