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K3: cheapo substitute for KXV3?

DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Okay...so I a typical "cheap" ham....

I would like to save some $$ while still being able to access the "IF
OUT" from the K3.  Is there a less expensive (home brew) way to do
this?  I don't need any of the xvtr functionality, etc.  Just want the
IF output.

I hope Eric and Wayne don't get too upset with this post, but, ummm,
it is still "hands on radio," right?  Can anyone help out this non-EE,
non-RF engineer type guy?

:-)

Mni tnx....
de Doug KR2Q
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Re: K3: cheapo substitute for KXV3?

Jerry Flanders
Check the schematics on the elecraft site. I read somewhere that the
KXV3 just provides the connector, and the only circuitry on it that
applies to the IF output is just a conductor. If that is true, you
should be able to just find the appropriate place to tap on the main
board and solder some miniature coax to it to bring the signal out.

Let us know what you find when you check the schematics.

Jerry W4UK

At 02:53 PM 8/7/2008, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:

>Okay...so I a typical "cheap" ham....
>
>I would like to save some $$ while still being able to access the "IF
>OUT" from the K3.  Is there a less expensive (home brew) way to do
>this?  I don't need any of the xvtr functionality, etc.  Just want the
>IF output.
>
>I hope Eric and Wayne don't get too upset with this post, but, ummm,
>it is still "hands on radio," right?  Can anyone help out this non-EE,
>non-RF engineer type guy?
>
>:-)
>
>Mni tnx....
>de Doug KR2Q

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K3 Second receiver question

Jerry Flanders
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Those of you who have the second receiver working:

Does the second receiver mute when you transmit on the K3, or is it
still working so you might possibly copy signals on it while actually
key-down?

I know this is a difficult engineering challenge, and, IIRC, other
radios of the past with two receivers simply mute the second on transmit.

Jerry W4UK

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Re: K3: cheapo substitute for KXV3?

Dave, G4AON
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Hello Doug

It's easy, socket P86 on the underside of the main board is IF out,
check the schematics (P6 of 46 - K3 RF board) and the installation
manual for the KXV3.

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
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Okay...so I a typical "cheap" ham....

I would like to save some $$ while still being able to access the "IF
OUT" from the K3. Is there a less expensive (home brew) way to do
this? I don't need any of the xvtr functionality, etc. Just want the
IF output.

I hope Eric and Wayne don't get too upset with this post, but, ummm,
it is still "hands on radio," right? Can anyone help out this non-EE,
non-RF engineer type guy?

:/-)
/
Mni tnx....
de Doug KR2Q
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Re: K3 Second receiver question

KK7P
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> Does the second receiver mute when you transmit on the K3?

Yes.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: K3: cheapo substitute for KXV3?

Burl Borcherding
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You can purchase the cable (pn850292 @$3.10) from Elecraft that will plug
into the bottom of RF board at P86.  This is the same cable used for the
KXV3 option.  It has the 2 pin connector on one end and the other end can be
soldered to a BNC connector.    A BNC connector can easily be mounted in the
location of the blank plate that would be used for the KXV3 option on the
back of the radio.

Burl  AJ9Q

----- Original Message -----
From: "DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL" <[hidden email]>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:53 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: cheapo substitute for KXV3?


> Okay...so I a typical "cheap" ham....
>
> I would like to save some $$ while still being able to access the "IF
> OUT" from the K3.  Is there a less expensive (home brew) way to do
> this?  I don't need any of the xvtr functionality, etc.  Just want the
> IF output.
>
> I hope Eric and Wayne don't get too upset with this post, but, ummm,
> it is still "hands on radio," right?  Can anyone help out this non-EE,
> non-RF engineer type guy?
>
> :-)
>
> Mni tnx....
> de Doug KR2Q
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Re: K3: cheapo substitute for KXV3?

Iain MacDonnell - N6ML

With this cable for the IF out, would one be able to feed a LP-PAN with
full functionality without the KXV3 option?

     ~Iain


Burl wrote on 08/07/08 15:39:

> You can purchase the cable (pn850292 @$3.10) from Elecraft that will
> plug into the bottom of RF board at P86.  This is the same cable used
> for the KXV3 option.  It has the 2 pin connector on one end and the
> other end can be soldered to a BNC connector.    A BNC connector can
> easily be mounted in the location of the blank plate that would be used
> for the KXV3 option on the back of the radio.
>
> Burl  AJ9Q
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL" <[hidden email]>
> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:53 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3: cheapo substitute for KXV3?
>
>
>> Okay...so I a typical "cheap" ham....
>>
>> I would like to save some $$ while still being able to access the "IF
>> OUT" from the K3.  Is there a less expensive (home brew) way to do
>> this?  I don't need any of the xvtr functionality, etc.  Just want the
>> IF output.
>>
>> I hope Eric and Wayne don't get too upset with this post, but, ummm,
>> it is still "hands on radio," right?  Can anyone help out this non-EE,
>> non-RF engineer type guy?
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Mni tnx....
>> de Doug KR2Q
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Re: K3: cheapo substitute for KXV3?

Burl Borcherding
Yes.  It is the same cable they use for the KXV3 oprtion.

Burl  AJ9Q

----- Original Message -----
From: "Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM" <[hidden email]>
To: "Burl" <[hidden email]>
Cc: "DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL" <[hidden email]>; "Elecraft Reflector"
<[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: cheapo substitute for KXV3?


>
> With this cable for the IF out, would one be able to feed a LP-PAN with
> full functionality without the KXV3 option?
>
>     ~Iain
>
>
> Burl wrote on 08/07/08 15:39:
>> You can purchase the cable (pn850292 @$3.10) from Elecraft that will plug
>> into the bottom of RF board at P86.  This is the same cable used for the
>> KXV3 option.  It has the 2 pin connector on one end and the other end can
>> be soldered to a BNC connector.    A BNC connector can easily be mounted
>> in the location of the blank plate that would be used for the KXV3 option
>> on the back of the radio.
>>
>> Burl  AJ9Q
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL" <[hidden email]>
>> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:53 PM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3: cheapo substitute for KXV3?
>>
>>
>>> Okay...so I a typical "cheap" ham....
>>>
>>> I would like to save some $$ while still being able to access the "IF
>>> OUT" from the K3.  Is there a less expensive (home brew) way to do
>>> this?  I don't need any of the xvtr functionality, etc.  Just want the
>>> IF output.
>>>
>>> I hope Eric and Wayne don't get too upset with this post, but, ummm,
>>> it is still "hands on radio," right?  Can anyone help out this non-EE,
>>> non-RF engineer type guy?
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Mni tnx....
>>> de Doug KR2Q
>>> _______________________________________________
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Re: K3: cheapo substitute for KXV3?

N8LP
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Yes, you could. You would not have the RX ANT jacks, though. I use the RX ANT jacks for a lot of my testing and other things.

Larry N8LP



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Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:05:35 -0700
From: Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM <[hidden email]>
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With this cable for the IF out, would one be able to feed a LP-PAN with
full functionality without the KXV3 option?

     ~Iain


Burl wrote on 08/07/08 15:39:

> > You can purchase the cable (pn850292 @$3.10) from Elecraft that will
> > plug into the bottom of RF board at P86.  This is the same cable used
> > for the KXV3 option.  It has the 2 pin connector on one end and the
> > other end can be soldered to a BNC connector.    A BNC connector can
> > easily be mounted in the location of the blank plate that would be used
> > for the KXV3 option on the back of the radio.
> >
> > Burl  AJ9Q

>  
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