K3 delivery require signature?
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Can anyone tell me if the K3 shipment via UPS requires
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Bill,
Only if you ask that it be required. With the good tracking tools available with UPS, I really don't understand why anyone would want to require a signature on delivery - especially for delivery to a residence since there is always a chance that no one would be home when the UPS man arrives. Take my situation as an example - the UPS man usually arrives around 12:30. If the XYL and I have chosen to go out for lunch that day, I would miss the delivery and it would be delayed until the next day. Yes, we receive frequent UPS shipments, maybe an average of 3 per week. 73, Don W3FPR KB1PXD wrote: > Can anyone tell me if the K3 shipment via UPS requires > signature? > > - Bill > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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My wife just contacted UPS and they stated that no signature
would be required. I guess if you lived in an apartment or something, the wouldn't leave the package without signature. - Bill
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KB1PXD wrote:
> My wife just contacted UPS and they stated that no signature > would be required. I guess if you lived in an apartment or something, > the wouldn't leave the package without signature. Doesn't that mean 2-3k $ worth left unguarded on your doorstep? And Elecraft refused to send mine by mail, since it couldn't be insured. (UPS is quite exotic around here and strictly oriented to businesses. Mail is much more convenient.) Must be a reason for that. Looks like unfaithful insiders in U.S. Mail must be a much larger problem than passers by stealing from people's doorsteps. 73 LA4RT Jon _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I learned my lesson with this. I sold a TS-2000 and had it shipped and
insured via UPS. UPS delivers it and the guy isn't there so they leave it on the front porch. His house just so happens to be adjacent to a city bus stop! He gets home to find that the package is no longer on his front porch like the tracking information online says. UPS calls the driver and they confirm it was left on the porch. I refund the money that I was paid for the stolen radio and 4 months later I finally get UPS to cut a check for the insurance. All of this could have been prevented by requiring a signature which I will do from now on. On high priced items it makes sense for the shipper to require a signature. 73 Matt W5LL Don Wilhelm wrote: > Bill, > > Only if you ask that it be required. > With the good tracking tools available with UPS, I really don't > understand why anyone would want to require a signature on delivery - > especially for delivery to a residence since there is always a chance > that no one would be home when the UPS man arrives. Take my > situation as an example - the UPS man usually arrives around 12:30. > If the XYL and I have chosen to go out for lunch that day, I would > miss the delivery and it would be delayed until the next day. Yes, we > receive frequent UPS shipments, maybe an average of 3 per week. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > KB1PXD wrote: >> Can anyone tell me if the K3 shipment via UPS requires >> signature? >> - Bill >> > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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My thoughts, for something the price of the K1, KX1, or basic K2 shipment
without signature on delivery can be acceptable. For anything more valuable than a fully equipped K2, if ordered at the same time and shipped as one package, then a signature could protect both the buyer and the seller. The buyer, the customer, would have to show that the item was (or was not) delivered and the lack of delivery receipt could help. For the seller, a signed delivery receipt could prove that someone at the intended address did receive the item ordered. Perhaps for something as valuable as the K3 a signature on delivery with proof of identity (DL or government ID preferred). One company that I have ordered from in the past, not really radio related but another hobby, has a policy that if the total price of the order is over $200.00 USD then a signature will be required on delivery. This company normally uses USPS for domestic orders and can allow the customer to decide which carrier to use for foreign orders. Again, just thoughts. Jim KD5VXH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]> To: "KB1PXD" <[hidden email]> Cc: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature? > Bill, > > Only if you ask that it be required. > With the good tracking tools available with UPS, I really don't understand > why anyone would want to require a signature on delivery - especially for > delivery to a residence since there is always a chance that no one would > be home when the UPS man arrives. Take my situation as an example - the > UPS man usually arrives around 12:30. If the XYL and I have chosen to go > out for lunch that day, I would miss the delivery and it would be delayed > until the next day. Yes, we receive frequent UPS shipments, maybe an > average of 3 per week. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > KB1PXD wrote: >> Can anyone tell me if the K3 shipment via UPS requires >> signature? >> - Bill >> > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Here in the outback of Montana UPS routinely leaves
packages on doorsteps ... or opens the door and sets it inside. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [hidden email] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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You're right.. It doesn't have anything to do with the operation of a
K3 but it does have everything to do with receiving your K3 from Elecraft and if you will be required to be there to accept delivery of the package. Some of us still work and don't have the luxury of being retired and home all day waiting for UPS to show up. I see people posting stuff to this forum all the time that doesn't have anything to do with the operation of a K3 and nothing every gets said about that stuff. W5LL Stan King wrote: > > What does any of this thread have to do with the operation of a K3 -- > Let's put this one to bed people. If you have a gripe or policy > question about Elecraft shipping take it where it belongs - the > telephone number is 831-662-8345. > > W4KR > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Patterson" > <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:28 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature? > > >> I learned my lesson with this. I sold a TS-2000 and had it shipped >> and insured via UPS. UPS delivers it and the guy isn't there so they >> leave it on the front porch. His house just so happens to be >> adjacent to a city bus stop! He gets home to find that the package >> is no longer on his front porch like the tracking information online >> says. UPS calls the driver and they confirm it was left on the >> porch. I refund the money that I was paid for the stolen radio and 4 >> months later I finally get UPS to cut a check for the insurance. All >> of this could have been prevented by requiring a signature which I >> will do from now on. On high priced items it makes sense for the >> shipper to require a signature. >> >> 73 Matt >> W5LL >> >> Don Wilhelm wrote: >>> Bill, >>> >>> Only if you ask that it be required. >>> With the good tracking tools available with UPS, I really don't >>> understand why anyone would want to require a signature on delivery >>> - especially for delivery to a residence since there is always a >>> chance that no one would be home when the UPS man arrives. Take my >>> situation as an example - the UPS man usually arrives around 12:30. >>> If the XYL and I have chosen to go out for lunch that day, I would >>> miss the delivery and it would be delayed until the next day. Yes, >>> we receive frequent UPS shipments, maybe an average of 3 per week. >>> >>> 73, >>> Don W3FPR >>> >>> KB1PXD wrote: >>>> Can anyone tell me if the K3 shipment via UPS requires >>>> signature? - Bill >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Post to: [hidden email] >>> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >>> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: >>> http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >>> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:55:47 -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
>However, our UPS driver is happy to put parcels in specified locations, >such as on a back porch, if asked I've lived and worked a bunch of places, both big cities and now out in the country. My universal experience with UPS has been that their drivers 1) are assigned to routes for long enough periods that they know their customers; and 2) they are VERY accommodating and sensitive to the needs/desires of their customers; 3) are well hired (that is, good people, good attitude). At my house in Chicago, I wanted nothing left on my porch, but was happy to have neighbors accept them (and do the same for my neighbors). I had also had an issue with fraud, with someone ordering stuff in my name. UPS was very responsive to my needs. In the businesses where I worked, UPS drivers came in the door straight to the shipping area/department, did their business, and left with no disruption to other things going on. Indeed, we always felt comfortable with their presence and activity. By contrast, I had MAJOR issues with another shipper (not FedEx) who some vendors used because they were cheap, and who would leave packages anywhere between the lawn and the porch. 73, Jim K9YC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Jim,
Funny that you mention that - we have a 1/4 mile driveway, and some vendors that DHL uses do a good job, but others will just leave a parcel most anywhere from the mailbox at the end of the driveway to the house! So far, I have found them all, but there could come a time when I might miss one. Once a parcel was left at the closest house into the sub-division (we are the last one on the road) and reported it as having been delivered. NO Problems at all with UPS, the driver has been on the route for a long time, is cordial and professional and will even leave parcels in a safe, dry place when it is raining and put a note on the door. That is very good service. 73, Don W3FPR Jim Brown wrote: > > By contrast, I had MAJOR issues with another shipper (not FedEx) who some > vendors used because they were cheap, and who would leave packages > anywhere between the lawn and the porch. > > 73, > > Jim K9YC > > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I'm lucky in that we own the hardware store in our small (4K) town and the UPS guy will leave an expensive package there if I'm not home. The XYL runs the store and is usually there when he delivers. I'm in sales and office at home so I may be there or halfway across the state. That said I am planning on arranging my scheduls so I have an office day when my K3 is delivered ;)
<quote author="KB1PXD"> Can anyone tell me if the K3 shipment via UPS requires signature? - Bil |
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> Funny that you mention that - we have a 1/4 mile driveway, and > some vendors that DHL uses do a good job, but others will just > leave a parcel most anywhere from the mailbox at the end of the > driveway to the house! Its completely uneven ... I had that same problem with UPS. Their drive kept leaving things in the bushes behind the mailbox rather than drive back a narrow 250' driveway. I had several packages lost or damaged that way before that driver was let go. However, that is one reason I will not willingly accept UPS if there is any alternative. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:54 PM > To: Jim Brown > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature? > > > Jim, > > Funny that you mention that - we have a 1/4 mile driveway, and some > vendors that DHL uses do a good job, but others will just > leave a parcel > most anywhere from the mailbox at the end of the driveway to > the house! > So far, I have found them all, but there could come a time > when I might > miss one. Once a parcel was left at the closest house into the > sub-division (we are the last one on the road) and reported > it as having > been delivered. > > NO Problems at all with UPS, the driver has been on the route > for a long > time, is cordial and professional and will even leave parcels > in a safe, > dry place when it is raining and put a note on the door. > That is very > good service. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > Jim Brown wrote: > > > > By contrast, I had MAJOR issues with another shipper (not > FedEx) who > > some > > vendors used because they were cheap, and who would leave packages > > anywhere between the lawn and the porch. > > > > 73, > > > > Jim K9YC > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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When I called UPS they actually told me that a signature would be
required and thankfully my wife offered to work from home and sign for it being that I had to be in the office that day... Working on schematic entry from home is a pain! On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 05:58 -0700, KB1PXD wrote: > My wife just contacted UPS and they stated that no signature > would be required. I guess if you lived in an apartment or something, > the wouldn't leave the package without signature. > > - Bill > > > > KB1PXD wrote: > > > > Can anyone tell me if the K3 shipment via UPS requires > > signature? > > > > - Bill > > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:53:57 -0400, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>DHL uses do a good job, but others will just leave a parcel >most anywhere from the mailbox at the end of the driveway to the >house! That's the bad one (and their predecssor, Airborne). Jim _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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