K3 - drop in used value?
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With the introduction of the K3S and the KSYN3A synth upgrade kit - I
get the feeling that my unupgraded K3 (6xxx serial number) really took a serious hit in value. Originally, I put $2909 (less shipping) into my K3 kit, with 100 Watts, tuner, IF adapter (for the P3), wide coverage, AM filter, narrow SSB filter. Maybe my math is off, but it looks to me that a new K3S equipped the same would cost me about $3600. It is fair to say the slightly over 20% increase is for inflation and improved specifications. I felt that my K3 was worth about $2300 as a used piece of gear. After the new synth was introduced, that was reduced to about $2100. Now with the K3S on the market, I figure a realistic value would be closer to $1800 (maybe less). Perhaps my estimates are low, but being realistic and _IF_ wanting to sell............... Yet another value question: will the firmware upgrades for the K3 continue - or will only the K3S be supported? How long for the K3 - if supported at all? Am I going to sell? No! I have the P3, KAT500, and KPA500 - so I am all into the K-Line. Will I upgrade to the K3S - I'll wait and read the user comments in a few months. Same for the upgraded synth - if I thought I needed it for my rag chew on 75/40 operation - I'd order it immediately. With my thinking and estimating in mind, I wonder how many will soon upgrade from the K3 to the K3S? Bill W2BLC K-Line ** ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I’m going to look at these two options:
1) Buy a new K3S and sell my K3. 2) Send my K3 to Elecraft and have them upgrade it as far as possible to a K3S. It will be interesting to see which costs the most. 73, Carl K8NU > On May 15, 2015, at 8:15 AM, Bill <[hidden email]> wrote: > > With the introduction of the K3S and the KSYN3A synth upgrade kit - I get the feeling that my unupgraded K3 (6xxx serial number) really took a serious hit in value. Originally, I put $2909 (less shipping) into my K3 kit, with 100 Watts, tuner, IF adapter (for the P3), wide coverage, AM filter, narrow SSB filter. Carl Yaffey K8NU Recording studio. [hidden email] 614 268 6353, Columbus OH http://www.carl-yaffey.com http://www.grassahol.com http://www.bluesswing.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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You could also buy a few pieces from Elecraft and plug them into your
K3. It would probably take you an afternoon and be less expensive than your option 2. 73, Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO Rehovot, Israel http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 15 May 2015 16:42, Carl Yaffey wrote: > I’m going to look at these two options: > 1) Buy a new K3S and sell my K3. > 2) Send my K3 to Elecraft and have them upgrade it as far as possible to a K3S. > > It will be interesting to see which costs the most. > 73, > Carl K8NU > >> On May 15, 2015, at 8:15 AM, Bill <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> With the introduction of the K3S and the KSYN3A synth upgrade kit - I get the feeling that my unupgraded K3 (6xxx serial number) really took a serious hit in value. Originally, I put $2909 (less shipping) into my K3 kit, with 100 Watts, tuner, IF adapter (for the P3), wide coverage, AM filter, narrow SSB filter. > > Carl Yaffey K8NU > Recording studio. > [hidden email] > 614 268 6353, Columbus OH > http://www.carl-yaffey.com > http://www.grassahol.com > http://www.bluesswing.com Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Bill,
"Craig" at Elecraft assures me that the K3 will be fully supported in for the foreseeable future. The utility will automatically determine which version it's connected to when updating. Nothing changes for the K3 user. 73 ! Ken - K0PP K3 S/N 0056 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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> "Craig" at Elecraft assures me that the K3 will be fully supported in for > the foreseeable future. > And, I am thinking that owner’s of a K3 really have no where else to go if they want on-going support of their rigs from the vendor. What other vendor even comes close to the kind of support given by Elecraft. That is, the minute that you take ownership of a brand new Icom, Kenwood, or whatever, the availability of upgrading your rig ends for the most part. 73, phil, K7PEH ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I plan to add in all the upgrades possible as I have been doing all
along. I am not worried about the resale value of my K3 falling as I have gotten any value loss back many fold in enjoyable operating. With the upgrades will be nice to have coverage down to 100KHz so the new LF bands will be included. 73, tom w7sua (s/n 17xx) On 5/15/2015 5:15 AM, Bill wrote: > With the introduction of the K3S and the KSYN3A synth upgrade kit - I > get the feeling that my unupgraded K3 (6xxx serial number) really took a > serious hit in value. [...] > With my thinking and estimating in mind, I wonder how many will soon > upgrade from the K3 to the K3S? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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My approach would be to buy the K3S and transfer the add-ons that will transfer (small mods req too) to the new rig. Then the K3 could be a bare bones QRP rig and also use it for other locations in the house away from the shack.
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Personally I think it is very hard to come up with a Consumer Electronics
device that has retained value as well as the K3. No doubt this can be traced to the loyalty of Elecraft to its clients and their excellent support and responsiveness. I think Elecraft has been and will be rewarded by reciprocal loyalty. As with all modern electronics advancements eventually makes most everything obsolete. 73, Yngvi TF3Y On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 3:16 PM, ke9uw <[hidden email]> wrote: > My approach would be to buy the K3S and transfer the add-ons that will > transfer (small mods req too) to the new rig. Then the K3 could be a bare > bones QRP rig and also use it for other locations in the house away from > the > shack. > > > > ----- > Chuck, KE9UW > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-drop-in-used-value-tp7602893p7602904.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > -- http://www.tf3y.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I believe all manufactures now offer update to their products. I have updated my YAESU and Kenwood xcvrs several times. True they maybe be software not hardware, but the results maybe close to the same.
George, W6GF On Friday, May 15, 2015 8:54 AM, ke9uw <[hidden email]> wrote: My approach would be to buy the K3S and transfer the add-ons that will transfer (small mods req too) to the new rig. Then the K3 could be a bare bones QRP rig and also use it for other locations in the house away from the shack. ----- Chuck, KE9UW -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-drop-in-used-value-tp7602893p7602904.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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What you say is of course true. Death is also inevitable, and most (not all) are saddened by it's arrival and miss the departed. It's an emotional time.
73, Mike NF4L > On May 15, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Yngvi (TF3Y) <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Personally I think it is very hard to come up with a Consumer Electronics > device that has retained value as well as the K3. No doubt this can be > traced to the loyalty of Elecraft to its clients and their excellent > support and responsiveness. I think Elecraft has been and will be rewarded > by reciprocal loyalty. > > As with all modern electronics advancements eventually makes most > everything obsolete. > > 73, Yngvi TF3Y ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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B.B. King. The Thrill is Gone.
On 5/15/2015 10:18 AM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote: > What you say is of course true. Death is also inevitable, and most (not all) are saddened by it's arrival and miss the departed. It's an emotional time. > > 73, Mike NF4L ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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The current K3 capabilities are not anywhere used to their fullest potential
by most amateurs. No poll involved, but in major contests is where you will find the K3 potential of benefit. And that statement goes for CW, SSB is a question in my mind as I don't bother with SSB. The current K3 is MORE that capable if you are gunning for Top 10 (or better) finish in ANY major contest. Jim W6AIM -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 5:16 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - drop in used value? With the introduction of the K3S and the KSYN3A synth upgrade kit - I get the feeling that my unupgraded K3 (6xxx serial number) really took a serious hit in value. Originally, I put $2909 (less shipping) into my K3 kit, with 100 Watts, tuner, IF adapter (for the P3), wide coverage, AM filter, narrow SSB filter. Maybe my math is off, but it looks to me that a new K3S equipped the same would cost me about $3600. It is fair to say the slightly over 20% increase is for inflation and improved specifications. I felt that my K3 was worth about $2300 as a used piece of gear. After the new synth was introduced, that was reduced to about $2100. Now with the K3S on the market, I figure a realistic value would be closer to $1800 (maybe less). Perhaps my estimates are low, but being realistic and _IF_ wanting to sell............... Yet another value question: will the firmware upgrades for the K3 continue - or will only the K3S be supported? How long for the K3 - if supported at all? Am I going to sell? No! I have the P3, KAT500, and KPA500 - so I am all into the K-Line. Will I upgrade to the K3S - I'll wait and read the user comments in a few months. Same for the upgraded synth - if I thought I needed it for my rag chew on 75/40 operation - I'd order it immediately. With my thinking and estimating in mind, I wonder how many will soon upgrade from the K3 to the K3S? Bill W2BLC K-Line ** ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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