K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter
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K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter
 
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Hello,
Can anyone tell me definitively whether or not my Keyspan USB-to-serial-port adapter will be suitable for downloading the K3 firmware updates? Thanks and 73, John, W2GW (2nd run K3 - May 29th) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
RE: K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter
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I can't make promises, but it has a very good chance of working well.
Keyspan has a pretty good reputation. I have one here that I'm going to test with a couple of computers. My experience has been that all USB adapters will work with some computers, and no USB adapters will work with all computers. My experience with serial ports is that they tend to be much more robust. I'm continuing to make improvements in USB to Serial Adapter error recovery which help with some marginal cases. I'll send another note after I've done my testing with a Sony Vaio laptop I have here as well as my desktop system. Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John Reiser Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:32 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter Hello, Can anyone tell me definitively whether or not my Keyspan USB-to-serial-port adapter will be suitable for downloading the K3 firmware updates? Thanks and 73, John, W2GW (2nd run K3 - May 29th) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
RE: K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter
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John, I just loaded my K3's firmware successfully with a Keyspan USA-19H USB
Serial Adapter. I used a Sony Vaio VGN-FZ150E laptop with Windows Vista. I first installed device drivers from the Keyspan web site. However the Keyspan USA-19H I have here has a 3' cable, and the fasteners on the DB-9 connector are "nuts", so it won't mate with the back of the K3, which also has nuts. You'll need a M-F serial cable with screw connectors on each end. This fastener gender issue is pretty common with USB adapters; the only one I've seen that mates correctly (has screws on the DB-9 end) is the KUSB sold by Elecraft. There may be others, I just haven't seen them. For me a 6' serial extension cord is not an issue at all, so it doesn't matter that much to me. Your preferences may vary... 73 de Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dick Dievendorff Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 2:04 PM To: 'John Reiser'; [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter I can't make promises, but it has a very good chance of working well. Keyspan has a pretty good reputation. I have one here that I'm going to test with a couple of computers. My experience has been that all USB adapters will work with some computers, and no USB adapters will work with all computers. My experience with serial ports is that they tend to be much more robust. I'm continuing to make improvements in USB to Serial Adapter error recovery which help with some marginal cases. I'll send another note after I've done my testing with a Sony Vaio laptop I have here as well as my desktop system. Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John Reiser Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:32 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter Hello, Can anyone tell me definitively whether or not my Keyspan USB-to-serial-port adapter will be suitable for downloading the K3 firmware updates? Thanks and 73, John, W2GW (2nd run K3 - May 29th) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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John Reiser wrote:
> Hello, > > Can anyone tell me definitively whether or not my Keyspan > USB-to-serial-port adapter will be suitable for downloading the K3 > firmware updates? Not definitively, unless you can find someone with the identical computer and operating system to try it! However, Keyspan has a very good reputation and chances are the answer will be yes. It depends more on your computer than anything else. There's been lots of work done on the K3 Utility to make it compatible with all kinds of USB/Serial adapters, OS's, etc. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter
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Hi John,
As Dick and Vic have said, there are no guarantees. But your chances are very good that the Keyspan will work fine for you. I'm using the USA-19H and I've had no problems with it loading the firmware updates using a Shuttle PC running Windows XP. I also use it on my four different Apple Macs without problems. David, W4SMT --- John Reiser <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hello, > > Can anyone tell me definitively whether or not my > Keyspan USB-to-serial-port adapter will be suitable > for downloading the K3 firmware updates? > > Thanks and 73, > > John, W2GW > > (2nd run K3 - May 29th) > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter
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Many thanks to all who responded to my question!
73, John, W2GW _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter
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Hi Dick,
I have a serial m-f straight-through cable that has screws on both DB-9s. However, I see from the picture of the K3 rear panel that the RS232 connector is male. I looked at my Keyspan USA 19HS adapter and found that it is also male. So to make it work I would need a f-f serial cable. I think that I should order a KUSB, which is exactly what I was trying to determine. I appreciate yours and everyone's help with this. John, W2GW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Dievendorff" <[hidden email]> To: "'John Reiser'" <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:37 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter >I suspect you'll be quite happy with your Keyspan, as long as you have a > serial m-f cable that you can use to fasten the connectors together. You > may have difficulty inserting the Keyspan DB-9 directly into the back of > the > K3 as both connectors have nuts. > > You can decide later, of course, and order a KUSB if you feel you need it > at > the same time you order your next K3 option... > > 73 de Dick, K6KR > > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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------ Forwarded Message From: Mike Fatchett W0MU <[hidden email]> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:27:22 -0700 To: John Reiser <[hidden email]> Conversation: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter Or buy an adapter at radio shack...Gender changers. On 12/11/07 7:13 PM, "John Reiser" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Dick, > > I have a serial m-f straight-through cable that has screws on both DB-9s. > However, I see from the picture of the K3 rear panel that the RS232 > connector is male. I looked at my Keyspan USA 19HS adapter and found that > it is also male. So to make it work I would need a f-f serial cable. > > I think that I should order a KUSB, which is exactly what I was trying to > determine. > > I appreciate yours and everyone's help with this. > > John, W2GW > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dick Dievendorff" <[hidden email]> > To: "'John Reiser'" <[hidden email]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:37 PM > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port > adapter > > >> I suspect you'll be quite happy with your Keyspan, as long as you have a >> serial m-f cable that you can use to fasten the connectors together. You >> may have difficulty inserting the Keyspan DB-9 directly into the back of >> the >> K3 as both connectors have nuts. >> >> You can decide later, of course, and order a KUSB if you feel you need it >> at >> the same time you order your next K3 option... >> >> 73 de Dick, K6KR >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ------ End of Forwarded Message _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter
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John,
The RS-232 connector on the K3 is -female- .. Your m/f cable will work FB. David, W4SMT --- John Reiser <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Dick, > > I have a serial m-f straight-through cable that has > screws on both DB-9s. > However, I see from the picture of the K3 rear panel > that the RS232 > connector is male. I looked at my Keyspan USA 19HS > adapter and found that > it is also male. So to make it work I would need a > f-f serial cable. > > I think that I should order a KUSB, which is exactly > what I was trying to > determine. > > I appreciate yours and everyone's help with this. > > John, W2GW > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dick Dievendorff" <[hidden email]> > To: "'John Reiser'" <[hidden email]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:37 PM > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan > USB to serial port > adapter > > > >I suspect you'll be quite happy with your Keyspan, > as long as you have a > > serial m-f cable that you can use to fasten the > connectors together. You > > may have difficulty inserting the Keyspan DB-9 > directly into the back of > > the > > K3 as both connectors have nuts. > > > > You can decide later, of course, and order a KUSB > if you feel you need it > > at > > the same time you order your next K3 option... > > > > 73 de Dick, K6KR > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
> >Or buy an adapter at radio shack...Gender changers. > Better still, make yourself a universal gender-changer/extension-cable. Buy two male DB9 connectors for ribbon cable, and two female, then squeeze them onto a foot of 9-way ribbon cable like this: M==F======================M==F Take great care about the polarity and orientation of the connectors - they must follow "pin 1 to pin1" all the way. It's a very handy thing to have around the shack. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB) http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
RE: K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter
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The K3's rear-panel RS-232 connector is female. A M-F serial cable works
fine to extend a USB to Serial adapter. Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John Reiser Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 6:13 PM To: Dick Dievendorff; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter Hi Dick, I have a serial m-f straight-through cable that has screws on both DB-9s. However, I see from the picture of the K3 rear panel that the RS232 connector is male. I looked at my Keyspan USA 19HS adapter and found that it is also male. So to make it work I would need a f-f serial cable. I think that I should order a KUSB, which is exactly what I was trying to determine. I appreciate yours and everyone's help with this. John, W2GW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Dievendorff" <[hidden email]> To: "'John Reiser'" <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:37 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter >I suspect you'll be quite happy with your Keyspan, as long as you have a > serial m-f cable that you can use to fasten the connectors together. You > may have difficulty inserting the Keyspan DB-9 directly into the back of > the > K3 as both connectors have nuts. > > You can decide later, of course, and order a KUSB if you feel you need it > at > the same time you order your next K3 option... > > 73 de Dick, K6KR > > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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