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K3 filter widths re: speech intelligibility

DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
http://www.polycom.com/common/documents/whitepapers/effect_of_bandwidth_on_speech_intelligibility_2.pdf

Don't confuse single single intelligibility of speech (and especially
speech quality) with speech intelligibility during heavy band qrm.
It's always a balancing act.

Argh.  This is why I have forgotten "the phone" and concentrate on cw.

de Doug KR2Q
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Re: K3 filter widths re: speech intelligibility

Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Interesting, although I have to take into account the fact that the
publisher of the report has a vested interest in showing that more
bandwidth is appreciably better for voice communication.

73, doug


   Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:09:34 -0400
   From: "DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL" <[hidden email]>

   http://www.polycom.com/common/documents/whitepapers/effect_of_bandwidth_on_speech_intelligibility_2.pdf

   Don't confuse single single intelligibility of speech (and especially
   speech quality) with speech intelligibility during heavy band qrm.
   It's always a balancing act.

   Argh.  This is why I have forgotten "the phone" and concentrate on cw.

   de Doug KR2Q
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Re: K3 filter widths re: speech intelligibility

Terry Conboy
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At 12:09 PM 2007-06-29, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL KR2Q wrote:
>http://www.polycom.com/common/documents/whitepapers/effect_of_bandwidth_on_speech_intelligibility_2.pdf
>
>Don't confuse single single intelligibility of speech (and especially
>speech quality) with speech intelligibility during heavy band qrm.
>It's always a balancing act.
>
>Argh.  This is why I have forgotten "the phone" and concentrate on cw.

This article is interesting, but it isn't completely relevant to
radio links, where increasing the receiver bandwidth usually
decreases the signal-to-noise ratio.

73, Terry N6RY

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Re: K3 filter widths re: speech intelligibility

Chuck Murcko
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The definitive paper on noise, bandwidth and their relationships in a  
communications channel is still Claude Shannon's 1948 paper "A  
Mathematical Theory of Communication":

http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/ms/what/shannonday/paper.html

It's the signal to noise ratio in the channel that will determine if  
a given voice bandwidth will get through, and how much of the power  
in that bandwidth will actually be useful to communicate information.  
It's also why DXers tend to favor narrower TX bandwidths, since they  
tend to operate in marginal S/N conditions.

Most modern USAF fixed station radios use 2.8 kHz as a default  
bandwidth (at least all the Motorola MiComm II we use).

The PolyComm article is based on a noiseless channel, BTW, so it is  
not surprising that it concludes that the wider bandwidths are best  
for intelligibility. Unfortunately, this is not the case on HF comm  
channels much of the time due to fading, interference, and noise.

73,
Chuck KE3KR

<begin quoted mail>

Interesting, although I have to take into account the fact that the
publisher of the report has a vested interest in showing that more
bandwidth is appreciably better for voice communication.

73, doug


    Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:09:34 -0400
    From: "DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL" <[hidden email]>

    http://www.polycom.com/common/documents/whitepapers/ 
effect_of_bandwidth_on_speech_intelligibility_2.pdf

    Don't confuse single single intelligibility of speech (and  
especially
    speech quality) with speech intelligibility during heavy band qrm.
    It's always a balancing act.

    Argh.  This is why I have forgotten "the phone" and concentrate  
on cw.

    de Doug KR2Q

<end quoted mail>

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Softrock Lite 6.2 Review

Jack Smith-6
In reply to this post by Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
I've built two Softrock Lite v 6.2 receivers over the last days and have
added a web page with my impressions and some limited measurements.
http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/softrock_lite_6_2.htm

I've worked with the receivers for just a couple days, so take it for
what it's worth.

Jack K8ZOA
www.cliftonlaboratories.com

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