http://www.polycom.com/common/documents/whitepapers/effect_of_bandwidth_on_speech_intelligibility_2.pdf
Don't confuse single single intelligibility of speech (and especially speech quality) with speech intelligibility during heavy band qrm. It's always a balancing act. Argh. This is why I have forgotten "the phone" and concentrate on cw. de Doug KR2Q _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Interesting, although I have to take into account the fact that the
publisher of the report has a vested interest in showing that more bandwidth is appreciably better for voice communication. 73, doug Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:09:34 -0400 From: "DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL" <[hidden email]> http://www.polycom.com/common/documents/whitepapers/effect_of_bandwidth_on_speech_intelligibility_2.pdf Don't confuse single single intelligibility of speech (and especially speech quality) with speech intelligibility during heavy band qrm. It's always a balancing act. Argh. This is why I have forgotten "the phone" and concentrate on cw. de Doug KR2Q _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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At 12:09 PM 2007-06-29, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL KR2Q wrote:
>http://www.polycom.com/common/documents/whitepapers/effect_of_bandwidth_on_speech_intelligibility_2.pdf > >Don't confuse single single intelligibility of speech (and especially >speech quality) with speech intelligibility during heavy band qrm. >It's always a balancing act. > >Argh. This is why I have forgotten "the phone" and concentrate on cw. This article is interesting, but it isn't completely relevant to radio links, where increasing the receiver bandwidth usually decreases the signal-to-noise ratio. 73, Terry N6RY _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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The definitive paper on noise, bandwidth and their relationships in a
communications channel is still Claude Shannon's 1948 paper "A Mathematical Theory of Communication": http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/ms/what/shannonday/paper.html It's the signal to noise ratio in the channel that will determine if a given voice bandwidth will get through, and how much of the power in that bandwidth will actually be useful to communicate information. It's also why DXers tend to favor narrower TX bandwidths, since they tend to operate in marginal S/N conditions. Most modern USAF fixed station radios use 2.8 kHz as a default bandwidth (at least all the Motorola MiComm II we use). The PolyComm article is based on a noiseless channel, BTW, so it is not surprising that it concludes that the wider bandwidths are best for intelligibility. Unfortunately, this is not the case on HF comm channels much of the time due to fading, interference, and noise. 73, Chuck KE3KR <begin quoted mail> Interesting, although I have to take into account the fact that the publisher of the report has a vested interest in showing that more bandwidth is appreciably better for voice communication. 73, doug Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:09:34 -0400 From: "DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL" <[hidden email]> http://www.polycom.com/common/documents/whitepapers/ effect_of_bandwidth_on_speech_intelligibility_2.pdf Don't confuse single single intelligibility of speech (and especially speech quality) with speech intelligibility during heavy band qrm. It's always a balancing act. Argh. This is why I have forgotten "the phone" and concentrate on cw. de Doug KR2Q <end quoted mail> _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I've built two Softrock Lite v 6.2 receivers over the last days and have
added a web page with my impressions and some limited measurements. http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/softrock_lite_6_2.htm I've worked with the receivers for just a couple days, so take it for what it's worth. Jack K8ZOA www.cliftonlaboratories.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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