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K3 in SS SSB

K5WA
I really don't like getting on SSB but the K3 makes it tolerable.  Both K3s
gave me 1850 QSOs in 79 ARRL Sections (missed NL, darn it).  The new
implementation of the Notch was VERY nice.  Sunday afternoon draws lots of
carriers from QRMers and the notch just wiped them off the map with a quick
punch of the button.  When you can continue 80/hr+ rates with a 30 over 9
carrier planted on you, you've found the perfect tool.  The QRMers don't
realize that they are helping to keep the frequency clear for you because
they are generally only affect a direction pointed at me rather than at my
next contact.  Very nice.

I had to run the DSP filter at 1.8 to 2.0 on 40 and 20 since those bands
were so crowded.  Rather than adjust the filter width or skirts on each
contact, I found it much easier to adjust the RIT and leave the filter
alone.  I have never used the optional I and II selection.  Lots of guys
were off frequency by up to .5 kHz.  I guess they were spinning the VFO and
didn't take time to zero in too much.  My RIT knob will need replacing one
of these days though.

Thanks again to Elecraft because a K3 is the only way for me to survive 24
hours on SSB.  ;-)

 

Bob K5WA

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Re: K3 in SS SSB

ab2tc
Hi,

If you are running a frequency, why don't to put the rig in split mode and lock the B VFO instead of using the RIT?

AB2TC Knut

K5WA wrote
I really don't like getting on SSB but the K3 makes it tolerable.
<snip>
Rather than adjust the filter width or skirts on each
contact, I found it much easier to adjust the RIT and leave the filter
alone.  I have never used the optional I and II selection.  Lots of guys
were off frequency by up to .5 kHz.  I guess they were spinning the VFO and
didn't take time to zero in too much.  My RIT knob will need replacing one
of these days though.

<snip again>
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Re: K3 in SS SSB

K5WA
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Knut,

 

That won't work because it doesn't allow N1MM's {CLEARRIT} feature to resent
the RX back to zero as each contact gets logged.  Some guys actually call on
frequency too!  ;-)  I may look at using an Elecraft MACRO and a call from
N1MM to accomplish the same thing with bigger knobs though. If there is a
way to tell VFO A to reset to VFO B's frequency without changing any
filters/etc., it might work.

 

Bob K5WA

 

 

SNIP   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

If you are running a frequency, why don't to put the rig in split mode and

lock the B VFO instead of using the RIT?

 

AB2TC Knut

 

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Re: K3 in SS SSB

Greg - AB7R
Bob,

Instead of {CLEARRIT} try {CAT1ASC K31;MN098;}

I have not tried it yet but that should execute the VFO B>A which should
have the same effect as CLEARRIT.

73
Greg
AB7R


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Knut,



That won't work because it doesn't allow N1MM's {CLEARRIT} feature to resent
the RX back to zero as each contact gets logged.  Some guys actually call on
frequency too!  ;-)  I may look at using an Elecraft MACRO and a call from
N1MM to accomplish the same thing with bigger knobs though. If there is a
way to tell VFO A to reset to VFO B's frequency without changing any
filters/etc., it might work.



Bob K5WA





SNIP   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

If you are running a frequency, why don't to put the rig in split mode and

lock the B VFO instead of using the RIT?



AB2TC Knut



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Re: K3 in SS SSB

K5WA
Thanks Greg!!  You just saved me days of digging!  I'm a very slow
programmer.  ;-)

I'm sure this will make Knut's day as well.

Bob K5WA

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Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 7:28 PM
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Bob,

Instead of {CLEARRIT} try {CAT1ASC K31;MN098;}

I have not tried it yet but that should execute the VFO B>A which should
have the same effect as CLEARRIT.

73
Greg
AB7R


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Knut,



That won't work because it doesn't allow N1MM's {CLEARRIT} feature to resent
the RX back to zero as each contact gets logged.  Some guys actually call on
frequency too!  ;-)  I may look at using an Elecraft MACRO and a call from
N1MM to accomplish the same thing with bigger knobs though. If there is a
way to tell VFO A to reset to VFO B's frequency without changing any
filters/etc., it might work.



Bob K5WA





SNIP   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

If you are running a frequency, why don't to put the rig in split mode and

lock the B VFO instead of using the RIT?



AB2TC Knut



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Re: K3 in SS SSB

w8fn
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In the "Tools" menu dropdown from the main logging window, tick the
box that says "Reset Rx freq when running split". This doesn't appear
to be "sticky"; you'll have to select it each time you start the
program. Works great.

73...
Randy, W8FN

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Re: K3 in SS SSB

Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2
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On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Greg <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Bob,
>
> Instead of {CLEARRIT} try {CAT1ASC K31;MN098;}
>
> I have not tried it yet but that should execute the VFO B>A which should
> have the same effect as CLEARRIT.

Uhm... no? All that will do is bring up the "VFO B>A" menu entry...
and it's even it you actuated it, all it would do is to copy VFO B's
frequency to VFO A - and RIT would still be on, and you would have
QSYed to whatever frequency VFO B happened to be on.

I believe a more suitable command would be  {CAT1ASC K31;RC;}

The "K31;" is probably unnecessary, but it shouldn't hurt.

    ~Iain / N6ML


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of K5WA
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:57 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in SS SSB
>
>
> Knut,
>
>
>
> That won't work because it doesn't allow N1MM's {CLEARRIT} feature to resent
> the RX back to zero as each contact gets logged.  Some guys actually call on
> frequency too!  ;-)  I may look at using an Elecraft MACRO and a call from
> N1MM to accomplish the same thing with bigger knobs though. If there is a
> way to tell VFO A to reset to VFO B's frequency without changing any
> filters/etc., it might work.
>
>
>
> Bob K5WA
>
>
>
>
>
> SNIP   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> If you are running a frequency, why don't to put the rig in split mode and
>
> lock the B VFO instead of using the RIT?
>
>
>
> AB2TC Knut
>
>
>
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Re: K3 in SS SSB

Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Iain MacDonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Greg <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Bob,
>>
>> Instead of {CLEARRIT} try {CAT1ASC K31;MN098;}
>>
>> I have not tried it yet but that should execute the VFO B>A which should
>> have the same effect as CLEARRIT.
>
> Uhm... no? All that will do is bring up the "VFO B>A" menu entry...
> and it's even it you actuated it, all it would do is to copy VFO B's

Sheesh... can I blame that on Sweepstakes sleep-deprivation? Meant to
say "...and even if you actuated it..."


> frequency to VFO A - and RIT would still be on, and you would have
> QSYed to whatever frequency VFO B happened to be on.
>
> I believe a more suitable command would be  {CAT1ASC K31;RC;}
>
> The "K31;" is probably unnecessary, but it shouldn't hurt.
>
>    ~Iain / N6ML
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of K5WA
>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:57 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Cc: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in SS SSB
>>
>>
>> Knut,
>>
>>
>>
>> That won't work because it doesn't allow N1MM's {CLEARRIT} feature to resent
>> the RX back to zero as each contact gets logged.  Some guys actually call on
>> frequency too!  ;-)  I may look at using an Elecraft MACRO and a call from
>> N1MM to accomplish the same thing with bigger knobs though. If there is a
>> way to tell VFO A to reset to VFO B's frequency without changing any
>> filters/etc., it might work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob K5WA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> SNIP   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>> If you are running a frequency, why don't to put the rig in split mode and
>>
>> lock the B VFO instead of using the RIT?
>>
>>
>>
>> AB2TC Knut
>>
>>
>>
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Re: K3 in SS SSB

Greg - AB7R
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Maybe I misunderstood what he was trying to do.  I thought he was trying to
NOT use RIT, rather put the radio into split on a run frequency, lock VFO B
for TX and use VFO A to tune around your run freq instead of using the small
RIT knob.  So RC; would not apply.

----- Original Message -----
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To: "Greg" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in SS SSB


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Greg <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Bob,
>
> Instead of {CLEARRIT} try {CAT1ASC K31;MN098;}
>
> I have not tried it yet but that should execute the VFO B>A which should
> have the same effect as CLEARRIT.

Uhm... no? All that will do is bring up the "VFO B>A" menu entry...
and it's even it you actuated it, all it would do is to copy VFO B's
frequency to VFO A - and RIT would still be on, and you would have
QSYed to whatever frequency VFO B happened to be on.

I believe a more suitable command would be  {CAT1ASC K31;RC;}

The "K31;" is probably unnecessary, but it shouldn't hurt.

    ~Iain / N6ML


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of K5WA
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:57 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in SS SSB
>
>
> Knut,
>
>
>
> That won't work because it doesn't allow N1MM's {CLEARRIT} feature to
> resent
> the RX back to zero as each contact gets logged. Some guys actually call
> on
> frequency too! ;-) I may look at using an Elecraft MACRO and a call from
> N1MM to accomplish the same thing with bigger knobs though. If there is a
> way to tell VFO A to reset to VFO B's frequency without changing any
> filters/etc., it might work.
>
>
>
> Bob K5WA
>
>
>
>
>
> SNIP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> If you are running a frequency, why don't to put the rig in split mode and
>
> lock the B VFO instead of using the RIT?
>
>
>
> AB2TC Knut
>
>
>
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Re: K3 in SS SSB

Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2
Oh! I read "should have the same effect as CLEARRIT", and was
surprised ... should have read back. Sorry!

    ~Iain


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Greg <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Maybe I misunderstood what he was trying to do.  I thought he was trying to
> NOT use RIT, rather put the radio into split on a run frequency, lock VFO B
> for TX and use VFO A to tune around your run freq instead of using the small
> RIT knob.  So RC; would not apply.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain MacDonnell - N6ML" <[hidden email]>
> To: "Greg" <[hidden email]>
> Cc: "K5WA" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in SS SSB
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Greg <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Instead of {CLEARRIT} try {CAT1ASC K31;MN098;}
>>
>> I have not tried it yet but that should execute the VFO B>A which should
>> have the same effect as CLEARRIT.
>
> Uhm... no? All that will do is bring up the "VFO B>A" menu entry...
> and it's even it you actuated it, all it would do is to copy VFO B's
> frequency to VFO A - and RIT would still be on, and you would have
> QSYed to whatever frequency VFO B happened to be on.
>
> I believe a more suitable command would be  {CAT1ASC K31;RC;}
>
> The "K31;" is probably unnecessary, but it shouldn't hurt.
>
>   ~Iain / N6ML
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of K5WA
>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:57 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Cc: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in SS SSB
>>
>>
>> Knut,
>>
>>
>>
>> That won't work because it doesn't allow N1MM's {CLEARRIT} feature to
>> resent
>> the RX back to zero as each contact gets logged. Some guys actually call
>> on
>> frequency too! ;-) I may look at using an Elecraft MACRO and a call from
>> N1MM to accomplish the same thing with bigger knobs though. If there is a
>> way to tell VFO A to reset to VFO B's frequency without changing any
>> filters/etc., it might work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob K5WA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> SNIP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>> If you are running a frequency, why don't to put the rig in split mode and
>>
>> lock the B VFO instead of using the RIT?
>>
>>
>>
>> AB2TC Knut
>>
>>
>>
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Re: K3 in SS SSB

Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2
But the part about only bringing the menu item up, and not actuating
it, stands ... at least that's what happens when I enter "MN098;" with
the K3 Utility Command Tester. I'm not sure if it's possible to
actuate it via commands ... the menu entry is only there for the
purposes of assigning to a programmable function key. I suppose you
could assign it to a PF and the use "SWT" to emulate pressing that PF
button.

    ~Iain


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Iain MacDonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Oh! I read "should have the same effect as CLEARRIT", and was
> surprised ... should have read back. Sorry!
>
>    ~Iain
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Greg <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Maybe I misunderstood what he was trying to do.  I thought he was trying to
>> NOT use RIT, rather put the radio into split on a run frequency, lock VFO B
>> for TX and use VFO A to tune around your run freq instead of using the small
>> RIT knob.  So RC; would not apply.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain MacDonnell - N6ML" <[hidden email]>
>> To: "Greg" <[hidden email]>
>> Cc: "K5WA" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in SS SSB
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Greg <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> Instead of {CLEARRIT} try {CAT1ASC K31;MN098;}
>>>
>>> I have not tried it yet but that should execute the VFO B>A which should
>>> have the same effect as CLEARRIT.
>>
>> Uhm... no? All that will do is bring up the "VFO B>A" menu entry...
>> and it's even it you actuated it, all it would do is to copy VFO B's
>> frequency to VFO A - and RIT would still be on, and you would have
>> QSYed to whatever frequency VFO B happened to be on.
>>
>> I believe a more suitable command would be  {CAT1ASC K31;RC;}
>>
>> The "K31;" is probably unnecessary, but it shouldn't hurt.
>>
>>   ~Iain / N6ML
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of K5WA
>>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:57 PM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Cc: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in SS SSB
>>>
>>>
>>> Knut,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That won't work because it doesn't allow N1MM's {CLEARRIT} feature to
>>> resent
>>> the RX back to zero as each contact gets logged. Some guys actually call
>>> on
>>> frequency too! ;-) I may look at using an Elecraft MACRO and a call from
>>> N1MM to accomplish the same thing with bigger knobs though. If there is a
>>> way to tell VFO A to reset to VFO B's frequency without changing any
>>> filters/etc., it might work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob K5WA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SNIP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> If you are running a frequency, why don't to put the rig in split mode and
>>>
>>> lock the B VFO instead of using the RIT?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> AB2TC Knut
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: K3 in SS SSB

Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2
That seems to work ... I assigned "CONFIG:VFO B>A" to PF1 (Hold of RIT
button), and "K31;SWH 45;" has the desired effect...

    ~Iain


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Iain MacDonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]> wrote:

> But the part about only bringing the menu item up, and not actuating
> it, stands ... at least that's what happens when I enter "MN098;" with
> the K3 Utility Command Tester. I'm not sure if it's possible to
> actuate it via commands ... the menu entry is only there for the
> purposes of assigning to a programmable function key. I suppose you
> could assign it to a PF and the use "SWT" to emulate pressing that PF
> button.
>
>    ~Iain
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Iain MacDonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Oh! I read "should have the same effect as CLEARRIT", and was
>> surprised ... should have read back. Sorry!
>>
>>    ~Iain
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Greg <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Maybe I misunderstood what he was trying to do.  I thought he was trying to
>>> NOT use RIT, rather put the radio into split on a run frequency, lock VFO B
>>> for TX and use VFO A to tune around your run freq instead of using the small
>>> RIT knob.  So RC; would not apply.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain MacDonnell - N6ML" <[hidden email]>
>>> To: "Greg" <[hidden email]>
>>> Cc: "K5WA" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in SS SSB
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Greg <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bob,
>>>>
>>>> Instead of {CLEARRIT} try {CAT1ASC K31;MN098;}
>>>>
>>>> I have not tried it yet but that should execute the VFO B>A which should
>>>> have the same effect as CLEARRIT.
>>>
>>> Uhm... no? All that will do is bring up the "VFO B>A" menu entry...
>>> and it's even it you actuated it, all it would do is to copy VFO B's
>>> frequency to VFO A - and RIT would still be on, and you would have
>>> QSYed to whatever frequency VFO B happened to be on.
>>>
>>> I believe a more suitable command would be  {CAT1ASC K31;RC;}
>>>
>>> The "K31;" is probably unnecessary, but it shouldn't hurt.
>>>
>>>   ~Iain / N6ML
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [hidden email]
>>>> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of K5WA
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:57 PM
>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>> Cc: [hidden email]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in SS SSB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Knut,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That won't work because it doesn't allow N1MM's {CLEARRIT} feature to
>>>> resent
>>>> the RX back to zero as each contact gets logged. Some guys actually call
>>>> on
>>>> frequency too! ;-) I may look at using an Elecraft MACRO and a call from
>>>> N1MM to accomplish the same thing with bigger knobs though. If there is a
>>>> way to tell VFO A to reset to VFO B's frequency without changing any
>>>> filters/etc., it might work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob K5WA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SNIP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you are running a frequency, why don't to put the rig in split mode and
>>>>
>>>> lock the B VFO instead of using the RIT?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> AB2TC Knut
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: K3 in SS SSB

Greg - AB7R
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As soon as I started reading your email I though about assigning the
function to PF2 and then using the SWH47; command.  I put the radio into
split mode, locked VFO B and changed freq with VFO A.  The SWH47; command
worked fine.  It set VFO A to match VFO B.  I think this is just what
they're looking for.  Provided he does not mind using a PF key to do it.

73
Greg
AB7R

----- Original Message -----
From: "Iain MacDonnell - N6ML" <[hidden email]>
To: "Greg" <[hidden email]>
Cc: "K5WA" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in SS SSB


But the part about only bringing the menu item up, and not actuating
it, stands ... at least that's what happens when I enter "MN098;" with
the K3 Utility Command Tester. I'm not sure if it's possible to
actuate it via commands ... the menu entry is only there for the
purposes of assigning to a programmable function key. I suppose you
could assign it to a PF and the use "SWT" to emulate pressing that PF
button.

    ~Iain


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Iain MacDonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Oh! I read "should have the same effect as CLEARRIT", and was
> surprised ... should have read back. Sorry!
>
> ~Iain
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Greg <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Maybe I misunderstood what he was trying to do. I thought he was trying
>> to
>> NOT use RIT, rather put the radio into split on a run frequency, lock VFO
>> B
>> for TX and use VFO A to tune around your run freq instead of using the
>> small
>> RIT knob. So RC; would not apply.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain MacDonnell - N6ML"
>> <[hidden email]>
>> To: "Greg" <[hidden email]>
>> Cc: "K5WA" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]>;
>> <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in SS SSB
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Greg <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> Instead of {CLEARRIT} try {CAT1ASC K31;MN098;}
>>>
>>> I have not tried it yet but that should execute the VFO B>A which should
>>> have the same effect as CLEARRIT.
>>
>> Uhm... no? All that will do is bring up the "VFO B>A" menu entry...
>> and it's even it you actuated it, all it would do is to copy VFO B's
>> frequency to VFO A - and RIT would still be on, and you would have
>> QSYed to whatever frequency VFO B happened to be on.
>>
>> I believe a more suitable command would be {CAT1ASC K31;RC;}
>>
>> The "K31;" is probably unnecessary, but it shouldn't hurt.
>>
>> ~Iain / N6ML
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of K5WA
>>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:57 PM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Cc: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 in SS SSB
>>>
>>>
>>> Knut,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That won't work because it doesn't allow N1MM's {CLEARRIT} feature to
>>> resent
>>> the RX back to zero as each contact gets logged. Some guys actually call
>>> on
>>> frequency too! ;-) I may look at using an Elecraft MACRO and a call from
>>> N1MM to accomplish the same thing with bigger knobs though. If there is
>>> a
>>> way to tell VFO A to reset to VFO B's frequency without changing any
>>> filters/etc., it might work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob K5WA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SNIP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> If you are running a frequency, why don't to put the rig in split mode
>>> and
>>>
>>> lock the B VFO instead of using the RIT?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> AB2TC Knut
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: K3 in SS SSB

Jim Brown-10
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:35:21 -0800 (PST), ab2tc wrote:

>If you are running a frequency, why don't to put the rig in split mode and
>lock the B VFO instead of using the RIT?

Some guys like to monitor another frequency while running, either looking
for mults, a different run frequency, or even a band change. Often when I'm
running and things are slow enough, I'll spot someone I want to work on the
other RX and try to time the end of his QSO with the end of my CQ, then call
and hopefully work him without losing my run frequency. Sometimes you can
get away with it, sometimes you can't. :)

73,

Jim K9YC


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Re: K3 in SS SSB

Barry N1EU
In reply to this post by w8fn

Randy Farmer wrote
In the "Tools" menu dropdown from the main logging window, tick the
box that says "Reset Rx freq when running split". This doesn't appear
to be "sticky"; you'll have to select it each time you start the
program. Works great.
Works not so great with the K3, IMHO.

At least up until now, the N1MM programmers reported that they couldn't really figure out whether the K3 was in split or not - I guess it's a CAT API software issue.  So unless you religiously used alt-F7 to turn the K3 split on/off, Logger would lose track of the split state.  I know that the FT1K/Orion never had this issue - you were free to control split at the rig and Logger tracked it.

Whether or not the K3 CAT API has been enhanced to make it easier to read the split state, Logger isn't supporting it yet.

73,
Barry N1EU
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Re: K3 in SS SSB

Julian, G4ILO

Barry N1EU wrote
At least up until now, the N1MM programmers reported that they couldn't really figure out whether the K3 was in split or not - I guess it's a CAT API software issue.
Sorry, that's nonsense. The K3 has reports SPLIT status in the auto-information messages and always has done. If I select SPLIT on my K3 by pressing the front panel button then a red SPLIT indicator displays in KComm. If I can do it I'm sure they can.
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222 KX3 #110
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Re: K3 in SS SSB

Joe Subich, W4TV-4
In reply to this post by Barry N1EU

> Whether or not the K3 CAT API has been enhanced to make it
> easier to read the split state, Logger isn't supporting it yet.

The K3 CAT API makes it extremely easy to tell whether Split
is engaged.  Split status (defended as "transmit on VFO B")
is reflected by the "p" byte (byte 33 of 38) in the IF; data.

Direct control and status for the subreceier was recently
implemented [MCU 3.46] in the SB; set/get command but status
has been available in both the IC {MCU 2.51] and DS get
commands for quite a while.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV
 
 


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> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Barry N1EU
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:50 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 in SS SSB
>
>
>
>
>
> Randy Farmer wrote:
> >
> > In the "Tools" menu dropdown from the main logging window, tick the
> > box that says "Reset Rx freq when running split". This
> doesn't appear
> > to be "sticky"; you'll have to select it each time you start the
> > program. Works great.
> >
> Works not so great with the K3, IMHO.
>
> At least up until now, the N1MM programmers reported that
> they couldn't really figure out whether the K3 was in split
> or not - I guess it's a CAT API software issue.  So unless
> you religiously used alt-F7 to turn the K3 split on/off,
> Logger would lose track of the split state.  I know that the
> FT1K/Orion never had this issue - you were free to control
> split at the rig and Logger tracked it.
>
> Whether or not the K3 CAT API has been enhanced to make it
> easier to read the split state, Logger isn't supporting it yet.
>
> 73,
> Barry N1EU
>
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Re: K3 in SS SSB

Barry N1EU

Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote
> Whether or not the K3 CAT API has been enhanced to make it
> easier to read the split state, Logger isn't supporting it yet.

The K3 CAT API makes it extremely easy to tell whether Split
is engaged.  
Thanks to Julian and Joe for clarifying where the issue lies.  Perhaps if someone could lend a K3 to K3CT, he could fully support the K3 in N1MM Logger.  Unfortunately not all K3's own a K3  ;-)

73,
Barry N1EU
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Re: K3 in SS SSB

Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Barry N1EU <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
>
> Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Whether or not the K3 CAT API has been enhanced to make it
>>> easier to read the split state, Logger isn't supporting it yet.
>>
>> The K3 CAT API makes it extremely easy to tell whether Split
>> is engaged.
>>
> Thanks to Julian and Joe for clarifying where the issue lies.  Perhaps if
> someone could lend a K3 to K3CT, he could fully support the K3 in N1MM
> Logger.  Unfortunately not all K3's own a K3  ;-)

FWIW, I tried this N1MM Logger feature last night - I hadn't paid
attention to it before. It seems to work fine. I put the K3 into Split
mode with the buttons on the front - not via N1MM Logger, and it was
detected correctly. I didn't run a 48 hour contest with it, but a
quick test seemed to suggest it works well.

The only "gotcha" I noticed is that if you adjust your *RX* frequency
(VFO A) by more than the "tuning tolerance", it will actually knock
you out of Run mode. I think that's a bug - it should not happen that
way when in Split, I think. I'm going to ponder it some more, and
maybe submit a bug report.

    ~Iain / N6ML
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Re: K3 in SS SSB

Barry N1EU
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Iain MacDonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]> wrote:

>>>
>>>
>>>> Whether or not the K3 CAT API has been enhanced to make it
>>>> easier to read the split state, Logger isn't supporting it yet.
>
> FWIW, I tried this N1MM Logger feature last night - I hadn't paid
> attention to it before. It seems to work fine. I put the K3 into Split
> mode with the buttons on the front - not via N1MM Logger, and it was
> detected correctly. I didn't run a 48 hour contest with it, but a
> quick test seemed to suggest it works well.

I'm not sure which Logger feature you tried Iain, but 9.11.0 is the
latest and "Reset RX freq to TX when QSO is logged (RUN & Split)" is
NOT working if you manually put the K3 into split mode, call cq, tune
off freq to pick up a caller and log the qso.  VfoA will stay off freq
instead of being matched to vfoB as it should and as it works on other
radios.

73,
Barry N1EU
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