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K3 power down problem

Ian Maude
Hi all,
For some reason my K3 will not switch off this morning.  I hit the power off
button and it powers down and starts again immediately.  Obviously it goes
off when I power the PSU down but it is somewhat annoying.  I have
reinstalled the firmware in case of corruption but have not as yet done a
full reset.  Any ideas?

73 Ian

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Re: K3 power down problem

Stewart Baker
Hi Ian,
Have a look at the KPA3 12V Sense Mod on the modification page.

It maybe the answer to your prayers.

73
Stewart G3RXQ

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:49:03 +0000, Ian Maude wrote:
> Hi all,
> For some reason my K3 will not switch off this morning.  I hit the power off
> button and it powers down and starts again immediately.  Obviously it goes
> off when I power the PSU down but it is somewhat annoying.  I have
> reinstalled the firmware in case of corruption but have not as yet done a
> full reset.  Any ideas?
>
> 73 Ian


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Re: K3 power down problem

Ian Maude
Mod done, still the same!  Odd that it should just appear after all this
time.

73 Ian

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Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455
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2009/11/10 Stewart <[hidden email]>

> Hi Ian,
> Have a look at the KPA3 12V Sense Mod on the modification page.
>
> It maybe the answer to your prayers.
>
> 73
> Stewart G3RXQ
>
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:49:03 +0000, Ian Maude wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > For some reason my K3 will not switch off this morning.  I hit the power
> off
> > button and it powers down and starts again immediately.  Obviously it
> goes
> > off when I power the PSU down but it is somewhat annoying.  I have
> > reinstalled the firmware in case of corruption but have not as yet done a
> > full reset.  Any ideas?
> >
> > 73 Ian
>
>
>
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Re: K3 power down problem

Don Wilhelm-4
Ian,

It sounds like something is activating the Remote Power On.
Do you have anything plugged into the ACC connector?  Check it to see if
pin 8 is being shorted to ground.

73,
Don W3FPR

Ian Maude wrote:
> Mod done, still the same!  Odd that it should just appear after all this
> time.
>
> 73 Ian
>
>  
>  
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Re: K3 power down problem

Ian Maude
No, nothing plugged in there.

73 Ian

2009/11/10 Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>

> Ian,
>
> It sounds like something is activating the Remote Power On.
> Do you have anything plugged into the ACC connector?  Check it to see if
> pin 8 is being shorted to ground.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> Ian Maude wrote:
>
>> Mod done, still the same!  Odd that it should just appear after all this
>> time.
>>
>> 73 Ian
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: K3 power down problem

Ian Maude
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Yep as per my thread, I did it but still the same issue.  I cannot imagine
that was the issue though on #455 after all this time.

73 Ian

2009/11/10 Greg - AB7R <[hidden email]>

> This is the mod description from the website:
>
> This modification adds a diode to the KPA3 12V sense circuit to hold the
> voltage to no
> more than 0.6V when the K3 is turned off. Without it, some K3s refuse to
> turn off when
> the POWER button is tapped because the 12V sense circuit does not drop to a
> low enough
> level to shut down the K3’s MCU.
>
> The diode is a common leaded part. No work with SMDs is required. A minimum
> of
> disassembly is required and no boards need be removed to perform this
> modification.
>
>
> -------------------------
> 73,
> Greg - AB7R
> Whidbey Island WA
> NA-065
>
>
> On Tue Nov 10  2:49 , Ian Maude <[hidden email]> sent:
>
> >Hi all,
> >For some reason my K3 will not switch off this morning.  I hit the power
> off
> >button and it powers down and starts again immediately.  Obviously it goes
> >off when I power the PSU down but it is somewhat annoying.  I have
> >reinstalled the firmware in case of corruption but have not as yet done a
> >full reset.  Any ideas?
> >
> >73 Ian
> >
> >--
> >Ian J Maude, G0VGS
> >SysOp GB7MBC & HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters
> >Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455
> >http://www.amateurradiotraining.org
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Re: K3 power down problem

Brendan Minish
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I had one of my K3's develop a similar fault. In my case it was a
failure of Q2 (FDS6375, RF board) which is the power switching FET.
elecraft spares sent me out one and I had it in a few days

An IRF7416QPBF might be a junkbox replacement if you are very
impatient!

it's pretty easy to get at

On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 13:05 +0000, Ian Maude wrote:
> Mod done, still the same!  Odd that it should just appear after all this
> time.
>
> 73 Ian

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Re: K3 power down problem

Robert Mccormack
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:18:00 +0000
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 power down problem
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Yep as per my thread, I did it but still the same issue.  I cannot imagine
that was the issue though on #455 after all this time.

73 Ian

2009/11/10 Greg - AB7R <[hidden email]>

> This is the mod description from the website:
>
> This modification adds a diode to the KPA3 12V sense circuit to hold the
> voltage to no
> more than 0.6V when the K3 is turned off. Without it, some K3s refuse to
> turn off when
> the POWER button is tapped because the 12V sense circuit does not drop to a
> low enough
> level to shut down the K3???s MCU.
>
> The diode is a common leaded part. No work with SMDs is required. A minimum
> of
> disassembly is required and no boards need be removed to perform this
> modification.
>

You're not alone Ian - we have two K3s #320 and #321 in a Multi-Single or Multi-Two arrangement for CW contesting.   #321 developed the power down problem so I did the mod.
 
No effect at all.

#320 has never had the problem, even though they run off the same 12v power supply.

Not a show-stopper - I just disconnect #321 until contest time.<G>

73, Ken ZL1AIH (ZM1A in contests)

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