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K3 question

WB9JPH
How do I  set up my single receiver K3 to transmit on ANT 1 and Rx on ANT 2?

73
John
WB9JPH

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Re: K3 question

Kjeld Holm
Hi John,

 

To the best of my knowledge this is not possible.

 

I  wish somebody will prove that I am wrong.

 

Best regards

OZ1CCM, Kjeld

 

 

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How do I  set up my single receiver K3 to transmit on ANT 1 and Rx on ANT 2?

 

73

John

WB9JPH

 

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Re: K3 question

Gary Hinson
It is surely possible with an external RF changeover relay, switched from
the PTT line.   Don't know if it can be done within the K3 though.

73
Gary  ZL2iFB


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> Hi John,
>
>
>
> To the best of my knowledge this is not possible.
>
>
>
> I  wish somebody will prove that I am wrong.
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> OZ1CCM, Kjeld
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>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of WB9JPH
> Sent: 29. februar 2012 07:34
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 question
>
>
>
> How do I  set up my single receiver K3 to transmit on ANT 1 and Rx on ANT
2?

>
>
>
> 73
>
> John
>
> WB9JPH
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Re: K3 question

MontyS
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Write a macro in whatever rig control program you use to simulate pushing the ANT button when you transition from RX-TX-RX.  Of course I don't understand why you would receive better on one antenna and transmit better on another.

On Feb 29, 2012, at 1:34 AM, WB9JPH wrote:

> How do I  set up my single receiver K3 to transmit on ANT 1 and Rx on ANT 2?
>
> 73
> John
> WB9JPH
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Re: K3 question

Don Wilhelm-4
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John,

Cannot do that, but if you have the KXV3 installed, you can use the RX
antenna input.
There is benefit in that approach - you cannot transmit into your
receive antenna and its preamps are safe.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/29/2012 1:34 AM, WB9JPH wrote:
> How do I  set up my single receiver K3 to transmit on ANT 1 and Rx on ANT 2?
>
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Re: K3 question

Joe Subich, W4TV-4
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 > Of course I don't understand why you would receive better on one
 > antenna and transmit better on another.

Simple ... quite often my vertical is very noisy on receive and I
can hear much better on my 80/40 trap inverted V on the bands the
vertical covers.  However, I still need to transmit on the vertical.
While it would certainly be possible to move the the wire to the
RX Ant input on the KXV-3, it is quite inconvenient to do so.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2/29/2012 6:51 AM, Monty Shultes wrote:

> Write a macro in whatever rig control program you use to simulate pushing the ANT button when you transition from RX-TX-RX.  Of course I don't understand why you would receive better on one antenna and transmit better on another.
>
> On Feb 29, 2012, at 1:34 AM, WB9JPH wrote:
>
>> How do I  set up my single receiver K3 to transmit on ANT 1 and Rx on ANT 2?
>>
>> 73
>> John
>> WB9JPH
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Re: K3 question

David Gilbert
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There is a very simple answer for that.  All you care about for receive
is signal-to-noise ratio on YOUR end of the path... efficiency is
irrelevant because there is usually plenty of gain in any modern
receiver, and if there isn't enough gain a simple low noise preamp fills
in nicely.  That means any antenna with a good enough pattern (or the
right polarity) to discriminate against noise will usually make a good
receive antenna.   Beverages and various loop configurations (K9AY,
pennants, etc) work well for that but they are very lossy and don't make
good transmit antennas.

For transmit, you care about signal-to-noise ratio on the FAR end of the
path, and since you have no control over the noise over there you can
only try to optimize your signal strength.  The efficiency of your
transmit antenna/feedline/etc is the first priority, with directional
gain from pattern also being desirable.  For some bands, you can get
both transmit efficiency and receive noise discrimination from the same
antenna, but for the low bands that is pretty difficult to do without
devoting the space and money to some sort of monster array.

For good antenna efficiency you almost always need size or height that
is an appreciable percent of a wavelength ... for good pattern you often
don't.

Dave   AB7E




On 2/29/2012 4:51 AM, Monty Shultes wrote:
> Of course I don't understand why you would receive better on one antenna and transmit better on another.
>
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Re: K3 question

MontyS
Thanks to many who continued my education on HF operating.  Wonderful Hobby, this.

Monty K2DLJ

> On 2/29/2012 4:51 AM, Monty Shultes wrote:
>> Of course I don't understand why you would receive better on one antenna and transmit better on another.
>>
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