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K3 sound recording

ve3gfn
I've been asked to do a workshop on contesting techniques next
autumn, so I'm working on an audio/visual presentation.

Here's the question: For my K3, if I connect a line between the K3
LINE OUT and the PC's LINE IN, will I be able to record
(using  software such as Audacity) all audio present in my K3 speaker
or headphones?  I want to record CW and
SSB contest QSOs, to illustrate my contesting techniques.

Thanks, Mike Goldstein VE3GFN
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Re: K3 sound recording

Kevin Stover
Don't see why not.

On 4/14/2016 9:11 PM, Mike Goldstein wrote:

> I've been asked to do a workshop on contesting techniques next autumn,
> so I'm working on an audio/visual presentation.
>
> Here's the question: For my K3, if I connect a line between the K3
> LINE OUT and the PC's LINE IN, will I be able to record (using
> software such as Audacity) all audio present in my K3 speaker or
> headphones?  I want to record CW and
> SSB contest QSOs, to illustrate my contesting techniques.
>
> Thanks, Mike Goldstein VE3GFN
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Re: K3 sound recording

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I routinely do this...  Works great for me...  I use a different
program called i-sound.  It has a small footprint and works well...  
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On Thu, 2016-04-14 at 22:11 -0400, Mike Goldstein wrote:

> I've been asked to do a workshop on contesting techniques next 
> autumn, so I'm working on an audio/visual presentation.
>
> Here's the question: For my K3, if I connect a line between the K3 
> LINE OUT and the PC's LINE IN, will I be able to record 
> (using  software such as Audacity) all audio present in my K3
> speaker 
> or headphones?  I want to record CW and
> SSB contest QSOs, to illustrate my contesting techniques.
>
> Thanks, Mike Goldstein VE3GFN
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Re: K3 sound recording

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I do this too - BUT have not figured a way to record the SUB rx output at same time unless I made some sort of external circuit xfmr or resistors to feed LINE OUT tip and ring to a single input Maybe there is something I am missing ? This would also allow decoding RTTY from either MAIN or SUB rx . ??? Hank K7HP ----- Original Message -----

> I routinely do this... Works great for me... I use a different
> program called i-sound. It has a small footprint and works well...
> --
> 73's, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> > Here's the question: For my K3, if I connect a line between the K3
> > LINE OUT and the PC's LINE IN, will I be able to record
> > (using software such as Audacity) all audio present in my K3
> > speaker > or headphones? I want to record CW and
> > SSB contest QSOs, to illustrate my contesting techniques.
> >
> > Thanks, Mike Goldstein VE3GFN
> > ______________________________________________________________
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Re: K3 sound recording

Cady, Fred-2
Have a look at the sound card's Microphone properties and then click Advanced.  You will probably  be able to select a two channel input if a one channel input is currently selected.
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I do this too - BUT have not figured a way to record the SUB rx output at same time unless I made some sort of external circuit xfmr or resistors to feed LINE OUT tip and ring to a single input Maybe there is something I am missing ? This would also allow decoding RTTY from either MAIN or SUB rx . ??? Hank K7HP ----- Original Message -----

> I routinely do this... Works great for me... I use a different
> program called i-sound. It has a small footprint and works well...
> --
> 73's, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> > Here's the question: For my K3, if I connect a line between the K3
> > LINE OUT and the PC's LINE IN, will I be able to record
> > (using software such as Audacity) all audio present in my K3
> > speaker > or headphones? I want to record CW and
> > SSB contest QSOs, to illustrate my contesting techniques.
> >
> > Thanks, Mike Goldstein VE3GFN
> > ______________________________________________________________
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Re: K3 sound recording

Richard Ferch-2
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Unless I am missing something in your description, the only hardware you
need is a single stereo patch cable (one with 3.5 mm stereo plugs on both
ends) from the stereo Line Out jack on the K3 to the stereo Line In jack on
a standard 2-channel sound card. If your sound card has only a mono input,
use a different sound card (one with stereo inputs). In the Windows setup
for the sound card, make sure it is configured for two channels.

The main RX audio will be recorded in the left channel and the subRX audio
will be recorded in the right channel of the stereo recording.
Transmit monitor audio will appear in both channels. On playback through
headphones, you will hear the main RX in your left ear and the subRX in
your right ear.

For dual-RX RTTY with the identical hardware, run two separate copies of
your RTTY program(s), one copy configured to use the left channel of the
sound card (for the main RX) and the other copy configured to use the right
channel of the same sound card (for the subRX).

73,
Rich VE3KI


K7HP wrote:

I [...] have not figured a way to record the SUB rx output at same time
unless I made some sort of external circuit xfmr or resistors to feed LINE
OUT tip and ring to a single input Maybe there is something I am missing ?
This would also allow decoding RTTY from either MAIN or SUB rx . ???
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Re: K3 sound recording

Nr4c
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How about a "Splitter" used backwards?

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> On Apr 15, 2016, at 1:26 PM, HankP <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I do this too - BUT have not figured a way to record the SUB rx output at same time unless I made some sort of external circuit xfmr or resistors to feed LINE OUT tip and ring to a single input Maybe there is something I am missing ? This would also allow decoding RTTY from either MAIN or SUB rx . ??? Hank K7HP ----- Original Message -----
>> I routinely do this... Works great for me... I use a different
>> program called i-sound. It has a small footprint and works well...
>> --
>> 73's, and thanks,
>> Dave (NK7Z)
>>> Here's the question: For my K3, if I connect a line between the K3
>>> LINE OUT and the PC's LINE IN, will I be able to record
>>> (using software such as Audacity) all audio present in my K3
>>> speaker > or headphones? I want to record CW and
>>> SSB contest QSOs, to illustrate my contesting techniques.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Mike Goldstein VE3GFN
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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Re: K3 sound recording

ab2tc
Hi,

An audio splitters is just a plain T junction and can not be used in reverse. That will probably just produce lots of distortion as the the low impedance audio sources are fighting each other. What K7HP is suggesting, however, using a pair of resistors to form a summing junction from the two outputs should work but will of course involve a little bit of home brewing.

AB2TC - Knut

Nr4c wrote
How about a "Splitter" used backwards?

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> On Apr 15, 2016, at 1:26 PM, HankP <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I do this too - BUT have not figured a way to record the SUB rx output at same time unless I made some sort of external circuit xfmr or resistors to feed LINE OUT tip and ring to a single input Maybe there is something I am missing ? This would also allow decoding RTTY from either MAIN or SUB rx . ??? Hank K7HP ----- Original Message -----
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