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Udo Langenohl - DK5YA
I pimped both of my K3 with the new KIO3B boards in order to avoid that
nasty sound card cabeling etc. It works fine via USB but one strange
thing happens with both radios.

I have to set "PTT-KEY" to RTS-DTR every time after powering down and
power up the radio again. Both K3 forget the setting "RTS-DTR" each and
every time. No matter what the computer or the operating system is,
RTS-DTR always switches to "OFF-OFF" when the radio goes OFF. What am I
doing wrong?

73 Udo, DK5YA

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Re: K3 suffers from amnesia

Cady, Fred-2
The K3s does this to avoid the extraneous keying due to activity on the USB serial port while the computer is booting up.  You can put the K3s into USB.SAFE mode like this:
"Safe" mode disables PTT or keying transmissions until the K3S receives a command via the USB interface, such as a read of the rig's VFO frequency.  To turn on safe mode, go into CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap 1 to select USB.SAFE.  Exit the menu and turn the radio off/on. Applications that use PTT-KEY but don't send commands will require UNSAFE mode (the default). In this case, be sure to turn the PC on before the K3S.

Cheers and 73,

Fred KE7X


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I pimped both of my K3 with the new KIO3B boards in order to avoid that
nasty sound card cabeling etc. It works fine via USB but one strange
thing happens with both radios.

I have to set "PTT-KEY" to RTS-DTR every time after powering down and
power up the radio again. Both K3 forget the setting "RTS-DTR" each and
every time. No matter what the computer or the operating system is,
RTS-DTR always switches to "OFF-OFF" when the radio goes OFF. What am I
doing wrong?

73 Udo, DK5YA

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Re: K3 suffers from amnesia

Don Wilhelm
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Udo,

Are you using the POWER switch to turn the K3 off?
If you turn off the power supply instead, the K3 will not save any
recent menu changes nor the current band/mode/frequency.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/4/2017 11:11 AM, Udo Langenohl - DK5YA wrote:
> I pimped both of my K3 with the new KIO3B boards in order to avoid that
> nasty sound card cabeling etc. It works fine via USB but one strange
> thing happens with both radios.
>
> I have to set "PTT-KEY" to RTS-DTR every time after powering down and
> power up the radio again. Both K3 forget the setting "RTS-DTR" each and
> every time. No matter what the computer or the operating system is,
> RTS-DTR always switches to "OFF-OFF" when the radio goes OFF. What am I
> doing wrong?
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Re: K3 suffers from amnesia

Udo Langenohl - DK5YA
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Gentleman,

it doesn't work unfortunately. PTT is always "OFF - OFF" when both K3
are shutdown. No matter if the computer is running prior to the K3 or
vice versa.

I asked another ham friend nearby with two upgraded K3's, the same
issue. Could anybody else please try this?

73 Udo, DK5YA

Am 04.12.2017 um 17:26 schrieb Cady, Fred:

> The K3s does this to avoid the extraneous keying due to activity on the
> USB serial port while the computer is booting up.  You can put the K3s
> into USB.SAFE mode like this:
>
> "Safe" mode disables PTT or keying transmissions until the K3S receives
> a command via the USB interface, such as a read of the rig's VFO
> frequency. To turn on safe mode, go into CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap 1 to
> select USB.SAFE. Exit the menu and turn the radio off/on. Applications
> that use PTT-KEY but don't send commands will require UNSAFE mode (the
> default). In this case, be sure to turn the PC on before the K3S.
>
> Cheers and 73,
>
> Fred KE7X
>
>
> For info on all KE7X Elecraft books, see www.ke7x.com
>
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> *Subject:* [Elecraft] K3 suffers from amnesia
> I pimped both of my K3 with the new KIO3B boards in order to avoid that
> nasty sound card cabeling etc. It works fine via USB but one strange
> thing happens with both radios.
>
> I have to set "PTT-KEY" to RTS-DTR every time after powering down and
> power up the radio again. Both K3 forget the setting "RTS-DTR" each and
> every time. No matter what the computer or the operating system is,
> RTS-DTR always switches to "OFF-OFF" when the radio goes OFF. What am I
> doing wrong?
>
> 73 Udo, DK5YA
>
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Re: K3 suffers from amnesia

Don Wilhelm
Udo,

Do you have MCU firmware 5.33 or later loaded?
Did you set the PTT-KEY menu to use "UNSAFE" mode (or activate PTT-KEY
by other means).
See the Firmware Release Notes for MCU version 5.33 dated 8-03-2015 for
the full explanation.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/6/2017 12:52 PM, Udo Langenohl - DK5YA wrote:
> Gentleman,
>
> it doesn't work unfortunately. PTT is always "OFF - OFF" when both K3
> are shutdown. No matter if the computer is running prior to the K3 or
> vice versa.
>
> I asked another ham friend nearby with two upgraded K3's, the same
> issue. Could anybody else please try this?
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